Three-Way 22" LED LCD Roundup: Dell, LG, And Samsung

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I've been wondering for sometime now why there are no monitors based on plasma technology, is there a reason for this?

Also, I'd love to see a comparison of 30" monitors vs 30" Plasma TV's for use as a computer monitor.
 

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Let me go a little left-field and say that these reviews are a little repetitive and beyond where I'd like to research to make informed decisions.
What I'd like you to do is to make it all a little more accessible.
Best graphics/cpu for the money lets us compare like with like in many instances. Could you come up with something for screens? Maybe a guide to buying screens?
Break it down by decision factors for different applications.
e.g. should I give a hoot about if it's an LED screen? IPS (or any other abbreviation) screen size over technology used?
Maybe segment the market a little as well:
21-22", price range, technology
22-23"...
So I can see what I'm getting for the dough.
 

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I've been wondering for sometime now why there are no monitors based on plasma technology, is there a reason for this?

Also, I'd love to see a comparison of 30" monitors vs 30" Plasma TV's for use as a computer monitor.
There's not much point in that sort of comparison, you'd be comparing a resolution of 2560x1600 to a resolution of 1920x1080. It's pretty obvious which would have a better picture if they used the same screen size. I'm not even positive they make plasma monitors that small.

My guess as to why plasma or other TVs aren't used as monitors often is that they have pretty bad input lag. TVs tend to do a lot of fiddling with images to make them look better, and that results in significant input lag compared to monitors. I've heard of TV's with upwards of 100ms input lag, whereas monitors are usually around 20ms. My guess is plasma technology isn't practical at sizes useable for monitors and has a lot of input lag. (Note that input lag and response time are effectively independent of each other)

To the post directly above mine: You should care about whether it's IPS, TN, VA, etc. But companies usually don't even list that in the monitor's specifications (i.e. newegg doesn't say). So knowing what's better or worse for you won't help much. The same can be said for most other factors, response time and viewing angle for instance is measured differently by different companies so the values advertised are meaningless.
 

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For what it's worth, odd resolution screen are nice. Got myself a samsung 2343BW and it's quite a treat. I'm just sad that samsung didn't continue the line ... could have been nice.
 
[citation][nom]SpadeM[/nom]For what it's worth, odd resolution screen are nice. Got myself a samsung 2343BW and it's quite a treat. I'm just sad that samsung didn't continue the line ... could have been nice.[/citation]

Plasma screens also have issues with image burn-in. Even on TVs that tend not to have static images, plasma screens will develop burnt in images in a few years. Computer monitors are far more likely to have static images on them, particularly with web browsing or office software, the images would burn in much quicker. The effective lifespan of a plasma computer monitor would be too short to be worthwhile.
 

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I was wondering if you could do a review on a infinity set up.
Using LED-LCD HDTV 3-D 23" - 24”-26” with the least of edge or border on the frames.
To get border-less panoramic view on the infinity.
Since most monitors have a ½” to 1” border when they placed together.
And what would be the best way to go if using composite or HDMI.
My rig is to be purchase soon I replace it every 2 to 3 years.
I am planing to use the new bulldozer rig on GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7 , CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB,
and 2 PowerColor PCS+ Vortex II 6970 or 6950, Rosewill LIGHTNING Series 1000W.
Well I am not into OC, I like a stable system.
I am going to spend $1800 on the PC, and planed to $2400 in monitors or HDTV.
But like I mention I would like the view as border-less as it is possible.
 

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16x9 SUCKS 16x9 SUCKS!

But the people who don't like it, such as myself are few as most people don't notice much of a difference... "Its only 120 pixel". When it comes to notebooks and desktops - the screen is TOO damn narrow. I want more vertical space! But for the most part 1920x1200 is dead. Its cheaper and makes sense to make 16x9 1080 screens.

pros:
1 - Cheaper to make (thats why they *DO IT*)
2 - for 1080 Blu-Ray / HD content, it fits the format perfectly. Nevermind that many movies are not exactly 16x9 either, some are thinner.
3 - Matches up with PS3 / X-box
4 - When connecting a notebook to an HD TV, there is NO odd-ball aspect ratio issues. (try doing 1280x768 on an HD TV).

CONS: TOO DAMN NARROW!

An example: a slightly older 16x10 ThinkPad with a 14" display has the exact same vertical height of a 16x9 15.6" ThinkPad. With that in mind, I was looking to getting a 14" ThinkPad, save the weight and space.... but NOW ALL 14"~12" ThinkPads have the crappy 16x9!! ARGH!!!

(I compared such ThinkPads with customer units a few months ago)

When my 24" Samsung 1920x1200 monitor dies, IS GOING TO SUCK! I have a dead pixel (after 3 years) - I'll live with it and additional before I go thin.

I'd LOVE LOVE to see Samsung / whoever come out with a 2550x1600 display that is 26~27" in size, under $1000.

- It appears that some of these monitors in the review are glossy displays?

- Notice that ALL of these cheap monitors have 1 YEAR WARRANTIES?!

- I must say, when someone is spending $120~180 on a monitor... the importance of quality isn't there. They are not pros in any way. Its going to be the $400+ where such tech specs are important, especially $1000+.

Go back 10+ years ago. My 19" Samsung (1600x1200 @ 100hz)was about $500. A typical good 17" was $300 (1280x1024)... I've seen pure crap $120 17" CRTs that couldn't handle 800x600. (I'm talking worse than a quality 14"). When people spend $100~180 on a monitor (especially on the lower), the quality of the display is far better than CRT and remember...

MOST PC users DO NOT PLAY 3D GAMES nor PROFESSIONAL. Thats what consoles are for. As long as they can get to Facebook and porn, they are happy.

My old 24" LCD should last me another 2~4 years... but I can admit the my son's modern $110 20" (16x9 of course) has far better contrast, very dark blacks, etc that makes the colors *POP*. I'm hoping to see the 2500x1600 displays that meet my specs to be on the market by then.

PS: I don't like 16x9 tablets either. Its perfect for a phone... but NOT tablets. That leaves iPad and Playbook for the most part.
 

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I'd like to see a review of all monitors that can run in 2D mode at 120Hz input/output. Most of these monitors are 3D capable, but I'm seeing a lot of ambiguity out there as far as refresh rates when these 120Hz 3D monitors run in 2D mode. I think most of these monitors are 23 or 24".
 

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I hate monitor reviews, those damn graphs make no sense and i think i need someone to explain them to me hands on.

on the other end, we need more monitor reviews. i have a 22" samsung 226b and would like to go bigger to 24+" screen...but i need good realiable reviews that tell me where the best bang for the buck is...best 200, 300 400 and 500 dollar money for the money...bring me that. along with runners up.
 

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"Monitors smaller than 22" typically can't hit resolutions above 1366x768. "

Since when"? 18.5" ones are usually 1366x768, but 20" ones are ALWAYS 1600x900. Never seen one that wasn't.
 

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If the graphs don't make sense to you, then they are not important for your needs. People who are into photography / projects usually need properly calibrated screens.

Otherwise, the rest is just preference and budget. ie: A client buys a cheap ACER 24" monitor and loves it... she didn't notice the colors were washed out and the blacks were horrible. Size mattered over her previous 15" display, which had far better color.
 
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My HannsG 25" has started making a high pitched whine, so it'll be time to replace it soon. I need a cheapish 24" + 1920x1080 screen and I'd like to make the jump to e-IPS too. I don't care about brand (thus the HannsG), only results. I'll use the panel for both design and gaming, so decent colour is a must, as is a reasonable response time. If you did a comparison of cheapish e-IPS 24" panels, I'd be sure to read it :)
 
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I'd like to see an IPS roundup. Specifically the Dell U2311/U2410, HP ZR24w, and the other more popular 23/24 inch displays. Preferably focused on 1920x1200.
 

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I'd like to see comparison of my new 23" LG E2370V-BF to other IPS and VA displays. I use it with PC, but also to play on PS3. It has a remote control and for PC monitor it is really excellent idea. Now its hard to remember how could I ever live without it :)
 

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I'd really like to see a gaming monitor round up. 22-27" range and sli/xfire multimonitor options. 60hz vs 120hz is it worth it? Is 3d gaming bad for your eyes? With specs like color depth, contrast, brightness, hz, ms, dynamic contrast, panel type, screen surface, resolution etc. There's a lot of important specs that makes it to hard to prioritize for a novice like myself. With monster gaming titles coming out like Battlefield 3, Dota2, Guildwars 2 and Diablo 3. I'd really like to know what i should upgrade to at the end of the year.
 

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I would like to see a review of the Dell U2711. It has a 16/9 aspect, but the screen is still taller than the U2410.
 

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In my opinion the next article should be focused on bugdet monitors mainly comparing low end ips models like the LG236V and the Dell 2311H to tn monitors within the same price point.
 

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I'm looking for a gaming monitor, or better 3 monitors...
two things that are important for me are ghosting and input lag, then of curse the color/contrast/brightness quality should be decent. I don't ask for the kind of stand because I saw they spare everything possible.

About the input lag, you cud put the monitor together with a crt and then just move a wide object (a windows folder), you will see if the movement has a lag on one or not. Then you cud give it stars from 0 to 10. Where 10 is no lag, .... I'm not caring about the quantity of seconds on 10 measurements in don't know what condition, but I would like to know if it's ok for fast games or not.


There are soo many monitor, for 1 by every 20 I find a decent review. I don't need the superspecialized review, of a monitor that I can't find in the shops, but to have an idea of how the solded ones perform. Then in 3 years I'll be back ;)

Then for each monitor review the possibility for user to give their opinion should finally give to users a decent overview.

Tanks for your site :)
 
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