Three-Way 23" LED LCD Roundup: Dell, HP, And Samsung

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I just get two of the Dell Ultrasharp monitors (the 21.5") U2211H monitors for $220~ish ea(keep an eye out for discount codes) they are amazing they blow these cheaper TN monitors out of the water.

I'm a convert now for multi-monitor setups the superior view angles and beautiful color are just fantastic. The one caveat the anti glare treatment is pretty aggressive and may annoy some... it honestly slightly annoys me and I wish they would step back on the anti glare treatment a bit.

but everything i do is fantastic with these video games, no probs with ghosting or whatever and games look amazing on these w/ my 6870. Movies great, web-surfing ...productivity everything.

i had some desk space challenges and so i could realistically have 1 bigger monitor or x2 21.5"s so i chose these 2 (the resolution is the same anyways 1080P). Someday I would like 2x 24+ Ultrasharps w/ higher res 1920x1200 on the U2410 for example but the $600 price tag ea and size kinda ruled that out for now for me.

 
[citation][nom]acku[/nom]I know everyone loves to knock on Best Buy, especially since Circuit City and CompUSA are no longer around to spoil us on crazy rebate programs, but if we had gotten review units you would have accused us of getting cherry picked monitors.For everyone tossing request and ideas, keep them coming![/citation]
I like the idea of reviewing the 120Hz monitors. Low-end, mid-range, high-end. Also answer the question: Are all 120Hz monitors 3D capable? Nvidia and ATI?
 
How about testing the input lag? Many gamers think that the input lag is the most important thing when selecting monitor. Allso response time should be measured, but this seems not to be so big problem today as the input lag mentioned first.
Viewing angles are allso one thing that I by my self consider an important factor when desiding the monitor. For the gamers it seems not to be so important, but IMHO I would like to see information of that matter, one area where IPS monitors are much better than those chepo TN panels that were tested this time.

What else... 120Hz vs 60Hz in normal use. How much it does improve the picture guality, or does it? So far many testers seems to think that 120Hz monitors are best even in normal use (3D would reguire more brighter back ligt in anyway and testers have not been too impressed about 3d so far...)
 
exenter, current monitors aren't releasing in 1920x1200 resolution. The industry has gone to the 16:9 standard now.
 
+1 for the people that would like to see a 120hz shootout.

I was recently impressed by an ASUS monitor and its big brother 23" model VH238H sells for $200 or less and 75% of people gave it 5 eggs. I do some light fps gaming, but i couldn't justify spending over $200 on a monitor.
 
Personally don't care about 16:9. I went 16:10 @ 1680x1050 instead of 1920x1080 and used the cost savings to get a monitor with rotate/swivel/height adjustments. I've never really said to myself "I wish I had 300 more horizontal pixels".

120 hz I could also care less about. Any video on those makes me want to vomit especially when every tiny camera shake (see: Bourne Identity) looks like a roller coaster ride.
 
It would of been interesting if the Dell 23 Ultrasharp was included because its around the same price as the $300 Samsung TN panel.
 
Input lag to me is 90% of what makes a gaming monitor acceptable or not. Maybe it's because I'm partially colourblind, but it's infinitely more important, in fps type games, than color gamuts. Who the hell has time to check how pretty the colors are when your life expectancy is about 3.5 secs?
 
The Samsung model has DVI-I (DVI-D + analogue) so you can use a VGA cable with a VGA to DVI adapter.

The chart on the first page shows the Samsung has no VGA connector which while true, it may give users the false impression that the monitor has absolutely no analogue support.
 
[citation][nom]nekromobo[/nom]How about you NASA-engineers drop the inches already and move to metrics??[/citation]

It's because the number "23" takes up a whole lot less space than the number "584.200000002"
 
I don't think I'm the only one connected via hdmi to an lcd tv. I'd like the see an article looking at them from use as a monitor perspective. I really enjoy my last two, for gaming my 23" in 2003 and my 32" in 2011 have been great buys.

It takes me back to 2000 when I'd see a $3000 computer hooked up to a 17" crt. When it comes to your screen bigger is better.
 
useless...

You know what REALLY SUCKS about LEDs ?

Almost none of them, especially the really thin ones, have vesa mount holes...

Oh yeah and if ure looking for LED + IPS + Vesa Mount Holes ... fooooorget it.

Are u suggesting million of people should trow out their monitor arms / support system just to switch to LED !? Sheesshhh...

The worst i think is that the companies are doing this on purpose... its such an obvious FLAW. LEDS are so lightweight you dont even need to have this hardcore metal encasing holding system, just put 4 friggin holes in the back so we can strap these monitor where ever we want. FOR GODS SAKE... ( yes, even though i am a non believer, this one of those times where you need to summon the higher powers )
 
[citation][nom]taso11[/nom]I think you mean DVI-D not DVD-D on your front page chart.[/citation]

Most of these monitors are made by LG and then rebranded by the vendor. For instance I know Dell gets all of its monitors from LG. I believe Hp does as well, correct me if I am wrong. Any way the reason you see some times drastic differences in performance of what should be similar monitors is because of the types of add ons the secondary sale companies add onto the monitors, glossy or matte screen, amount of available plug ins (hdmi, vga, dvi, analog, etc.)

Lg does directly sell some displays, but I just thought you might find it interesting that they produced a large percentage of the ones available.
 
I want to see the 30" LCD in review. Etc. HP ZR30W, Dell U3011, Eizo SX3011(maybe discontinued). This is perfect size what SLI and crossfire setup should aim for. Who demands the best in video, picture quality. Forget about those 3D monitor, those kind cannot rival the 30" in true experience. I'm not going to stop for 1-2 hour gaming with 3D glasses (because of the headache)..then reload save game 🙁
 
I'd like to see an entry level e-IPS roundup with Asus, ViewSonic, and Dell's 23" eIPS models for cheap. Asus also makes a 24" PVA version of the 23" IPS. It's be interesting to see non-TN screens at the entry level price point.

Do it!
 
[/citation].Is IPS some new kind of monitor?[/citation]

IPS stands for in plane switching, as opposed to the twisted nemaSotic screens of most cheaper laptops and cheap monitors. Dell's UltraSharp line has been IPS for quite some time. IPS screens have much better viewing angles and -can- have better color. So IPS isn't new, most of the various technology for tft screens was developed in the '90s, but all had significant problems. After a few generations of development, IPS screens have very few drawbacks -- they'll always be expensive but the last IPS 23" monitor I bought was $249.

IPS, VA, and TN panels are all tradeoffs of one kind or another. There isn't a perfect technology.
 
Pixel pitch is something important to me. Of course, with LCDs these things are fixed, and all 23" 1920x1080 LCDs have the same pixel pitch - .265mm. That's too much for me, and produces a screen-door effect I don't like at monitor range.

Bigger screens of the same "resolution" are worse (of course), and that's something that drives me nuts about the new crop of "gamer" 27" screens coming out by some of the big makers. 1920x1080 at 27" gives a pitch of .31mm. I can see a gamer that only plays at TV distance - across the living room - going for such a device, or one who just doesn't care about picture quality but wants a big screen, but no gamer who wants a decent looking game would want such a jagged picture to look at. We spend big bucks on video cards to get rid of those flaws.

I guess that's my long-winded way of saying I'd like to see articles addressing pixel pitch in LCDs and how terrible big screens look (or not, if that's what you think) with mediocre resolutions. By big screens, I include the 23" size you tested here and up.

😉
 
could you review this monitor next :
ASUS VE247H 23.6IN Widescreen LED LCD Monitor 1920X1080 2MS 10M1DC HDMI DVI-D VGA Speakers
 
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