TMPGEnc Source Creator: No Audio

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I am trying to use TMPGEnc Source Creator to convert AVI -> MPEG 2
(DVD-NTSC) to be used by TMPGEnc DVD Author and audio data gets lost.
If I go through the process, no errors are generated, and even when I
use PCM Audio to get a separate WAV audio track, the file (as large as
it may be) is a flat waveform. Within TMPGEnc Source Creator, when
trying to preview the AVI before converting, I get no audio there, and
if I try to "view audio", TMPGenc locks up. I installed the K-Lite
codec pack so that may be why I can play the AVI in Windows Media
Player and audio comes though. Could the problem be that TMPGenc
doesn't know to use these codecs? Thanks.
 
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It could be the codec your original video is in. I have had real problems
with Divx and a couple of others that TMPGEnc doesn't seem to handle well.
What I have been doing is using Canopus ProCoder 1.5 to encode the audio and
video to standard VCD or DVD format and then running TMPGEnc to compress it
down. I do most VCD and have converted the KVCD templates from 2.5 to 3 and
use those so I can get like 6 hours of video and a single CD.

If you have video editing software you an re-render with it to a standard
format for the audio and then you should be able to go from their.

IMO this is one of the real weak points of TMPGEnc. It doesn't handle codecs
well. Even if you have them installed it doesn't mean the program will use
them well. They have a tech note/faq on their site about this and I think
their excuse is pretty lame. You can view it at:

https://secure.pegasys-inc.com/faq/index.php?lang=en

John
 
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> What I have been doing is using Canopus ProCoder 1.5 to encode the audio and
> video to standard VCD or DVD format and then running TMPGEnc to compress it
> down. I do most VCD and have converted the KVCD templates from 2.5 to 3 and
> use those so I can get like 6 hours of video and a single CD.

I tried ProCoder with those files and it failed with "An unknown error
occured" when I tried to add the file. Sheesh, this is getting tough!
I tried using it with some other AVIs and it appeared to work for
them, but the encoding was incredibly slow. Any suggestions? I am
going to try MainConcept now and see if that works.

About the separate Codecs that are out there like AC3 and ffdshow. How
exactly are these used by other encoding programs? It is kind of a
mystery to me how it all ties together.
 
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I know what you mean. Overall, I have yet to find a single program good or
bad that could handle any and all video and audio flavors. Some do well with
some kinds, but not others, etc.

I am really starting to think video is more trouble that it is worth. It
sure as hell could be a lot easier.

My suggestion is to start collecting programs. The more you have the better
your odds are of finding one that will handle the flavor video and audio you
through at it.

As for other codec's that is a problem as well. Not all programs will use
them. TMPEGEnc for example will attempt to use them, but even though they
are there and it finds them is no guarantee that it will use them and it
will work. For example support says that the likely hood of TMPGEnc doing
Divx and a couple of other correctly is next to nil. They blame the constant
changes in the format, compression, etc. as these codec's seem to be updated
constantly.

I have had similar problems with DVD authoring software. Some will had some
video files while it won't hand others. So I have about 8 mastering programs
on my computer. It is just trial and error to find one that works.

The other program is sometimes programs like TMPGEnc will handle the video,
but won't handle the audio so you go through the time and effort to
re-encode with it only to find out when it is done that it lost the audio.
What I do now is let go for a minute and then cancel it and test the file to
see that it handles the video and audio. I have had more trouble with
TMPEGnc with audio than video, but some trouble with video as well.

As I said collect programs and hope for the best.

John