Torrent Site Mininova Removes Pirated Materials

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the Tom's Hardware community: where nearly two million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Status
Not open for further replies.

mlopinto2k1

Distinguished
Apr 25, 2006
1,433
0
19,280
[citation][nom]sylvia648[/nom]Depending on if I were a evil corporation and made the money off the backs of people to use and abuse them and then toss them away like most American companies than yes, I'd say give them the ass kicking of a life time. I think your someone that would benefit from losing everything and then you might understand that no one gives a flying fuck for millionaires and their problems, because they have none. Your in the wrong place if your against P2P file sharing and pro asshat businesses. You might want to try arguing on a Fox News Forum or something that way you'll find like minded people.[/citation]Sylvia, GET A GRIP. I am very reasonable person and deserve my opinion just LIKE YOU. Don't sit there and type a bunch of non-sense directed towards me. You have NO CLUE about my life and what I have personally been through and I really don't want to know about yours. I am NOT in the wrong place, I love the articles Tom's Hardware offers and if it wasn't for this place, I wouldn't have the opportunity to VOICE MY OPINION. So, with that in mind.. stop trying to BULLY people around. Where do you come from anyway? You sound really jealous. If you lost everything, GET IT BACK. Stop whining. I did.
 

jcknouse

Distinguished
Oct 23, 2008
447
0
18,780
Here's my rant: Wanna know what to do?

Go to your local music shop/game store and buy it.
Copy it.
Take it back and tell them it wasn't what you thought it was...get your money back.

Plain and simple, if you want to pirate and not get caught...that's the way to do it...as long as you don't go putting the disk image online or giving a copy to everyone and their dog.

Only catch is: you have to get off your butt...and maybe buy a $30 DVD-RW.

The RIAA can't stand in the front door of Best Buy and interrogate every customer. Well, they could. But, they're just as lazy (and even cheaper) than the average consumer is nowadays.

Personally, I pay for my stuff. But, I'm lucky to have a job. Not everyone does.

But, to sit here and moan about the RIAA and MPAA and Warner Bros. and Arista/Elektra/Asylum and Metallica...

If you want to beat them, you have to play the game better than them. Use the system (retail sector) like they are doing (with internet providers and the courts).

Personally, I can't blame anyone for pirating a game or a music CD.

New music CDs are still as expensive on release as they were when the technology was new in the early 90s and expensive to manufacture.

And I was shocked at the price of a new game for the gaming systems...$60? $70? WTF?!?!

I know that there's a lot of cost in developing, implementing, marketing, etc., a new product. But if you have 250,000 customers for a $60 game, I think you are more than going to make back your investment.

I think it's time for the business sector to step up, evaluate what they are promising shareholders in dividends and paying their executives. They have already cut their workforce and its benefits/perks.

It's time to do it across the board, and bring that savings to the financially ailing consumer market.
 

soo-nah-mee

Distinguished
Feb 5, 2009
564
0
18,990
[citation][nom]steelbox[/nom]It is illegal because LAW says so.[/citation]
Yeah, and all LAWS are perfectly justified. It is amazing to me how few people it seems dare question authority. It is also illegal to have a bag of weed in this country - complete BS. In some states it is illegal to put your wiener in another person's heiney hole.
 
G

Guest

Guest
"Well, we all know that this is inevitable, right? I mean, allowing the distribution of pirated material is just like Pakistan harboring terrorists. Plain and simple"

AMAZING, people like you are what's wrong with the world
 
G

Guest

Guest
[citation][nom]mlopinto2k1[/nom]That is PRECISELY MY POINT. How hard is it to get across that IT IS ILLEGALLLLLLLLLL. Jesus H Christ![/citation]

Problem is WHY/WHAT is illegal? they change the rules to fit whatever makes money for them.

Originally only identical copies where illegal, then copies that were sold, then lower quality copies, and now you can't even make copies of your own stuff.
 

rean24

Distinguished
Dec 1, 2009
25
0
18,530
Making software/movie/music is there way of living. Torrents are a way to deprive them on there living. Hence its illegal. NOw we can stop asking the question what it legal and what it not.
 

itadakimasu

Distinguished
Jul 16, 2008
1,065
0
19,310
[citation][nom]quip13[/nom]nooo...isohunt better not go down too[/citation]
I used isohunt before mininova and I'm pretty sure they were "sister sites".

ISOhunt appears to be near death also. I did a search for something and the newest result was 2 weeks old.

on another note... copyright, shmopyright... don't make me lay out my argument again... ok, i'll delve briefly into it.

I buy most of my stuff used, amazon... ebay, im not paying $15 for a cd. So, i buy a cd for $.99 + shipping off amazon, and whala.. i have a $3.99 cd... but you know what? The Musical artist and record company still see $0.00 of my money... so what difference does it make if I downloaded that "illegally" instead of buying it for $3.99 from amazon?

The only things I download though via torrent is subbed anime that is not going to be available in english for another year or two, and i for damn sure am not going to wait.
 

Jarvis

Distinguished
Jan 15, 2004
20
0
18,510
Just wondering...what would happen if TPB or Mininova moved their servers to a country that doesn't care much about copyright laws? Does anyone know?
 

rean24

Distinguished
Dec 1, 2009
25
0
18,530
If i remember correctly , Few years back some torrent sites where lookin for donation , so to collect enuff money to buy an ISLAND and host there stuffz from there.
Just think , Already America and rest of the world wants to boomb IRAN, if they had that island , it would have been traget for sure...
 

RADIO_ACTIVE

Distinguished
Jan 17, 2008
897
0
18,990
I still see huge bins full of dvds at WallMart with like 10 people always hovering over it! Is the industry really hurting that bad... I don't think so. I think they are just greedy bastards that want every penny they can get. If you really think about it you can record movies on a VHS or dvd/bluray recorder, are they going to ban that as well eventually.
 

lumpy

Distinguished
Aug 17, 2007
136
0
18,680
I hope they shut them all down.
Im sick of You criminals,bittorrent is all about theft.
Im so sick of this shit Ive started reporting people(customers\Friends) that have stolen software on their pcs.
Ellmondo-Your just.. a moron.Your stealing from US ALL!get it?
And dont give Me this crap about "i dont use B/T for illegal purpose"
BS, everyone that uses b/T has downloaded illegal suff.You know its true.
 

rooket

Distinguished
Feb 3, 2009
1,097
0
19,280
Mininova was better than piratebay but with all the news sites posting about piratebay and then mininova, it put them too much into the spotlight and burned out the flame pretty fast. There's always going to be more torrent sites.

I'm not pro shutting these things down but the fact is, some day all the internet is going to revert back to how it was back in the early 1990's. It will be difficult to pirate software again some day. And with all this bandwidth, what will people do with it? Download porn all the time? I don't think so.

So now Mininova I don't know how that site will survive now, and yeah.. linux updates? yeah that is laughable but that is kinda sad..I wouldn't poke fun. On the other hand I'm sure glad I'm not dumb enough to host one of these types of sites, that is just asking for trouble.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Downloading music, movies, and programs without paying for them is theft - period. I've done it, but it is still theft.

P2P is doomed. ISPs are already being forced, by law, to turn over the identity of anyone observed using P2P. I know this because I got caught. And let's face it - 98% of what goes through P2P software is pirated content. A "three strikes, you're out" law is already in the works. Get caught downloading copyrighted material three times, and you lose your internet for life.

You can bellyache all you want. You can try to justify theft all you want. You can claim it is fair for you to steal because they've been stealing from us for years, but t won't matter. They'll do it, and they'll get away with it, and all the spin you can put on the stealing of copyrighted material won't make a damned bit of difference.

It was good while it lasted, but it is over.
 
G

Guest

Guest
[citation][nom]sylvia648[/nom]I don't even know where to start with you. First and foremost no one has any money for the most part (unemployment is at an all time high...) to buy every game out there to "try" them out, and a second not all games are worth one one hundredth of the price tag that's on them.Undeserving? Like its a privilege to toss sixty dollars for a duel layer dvd and a craptasic box with a shitty u-card and some ten cent booklet for often a piece of shit in the first place? Seriously? When did the rich get so big headed to say such things. You know artists and I mean real ones are happy enough knowing someone gives a flying fuck about what they made nonetheless make a dollar off of it. It's their privilege that we tell them "good job" or "great song", not "hey you poor fucks pay top dollar for this shit to even get a taste." I am sorry, but fuck you buddy. It's a privilege these game makers and song writers have anything, but to demand things of the such is insane and arrogant beyond belief. I'll be glad to support people that are truly worth the time and effort, but to demand payment for something that you deem valuable just because you say so is bullshit. And I don't know when games and thing became a "lease" and not something you owned. When someone sells you their work of art or their art whatever they are selling it transfers to you once you paid whatever they wanted and both parties got what they wanted, but some how in this day and age (okay its been like this throughout history) where greedy bastards try to rule everything and tell you what is right and what is law based on how much bank they pull down is bullshit. If you want to sell games then do so, but know when you sell something it is no longer yours and if you can't except the fact that some might take your work of art and toss it in the trash or others might very well try and duplicate it then you're in the wrong business.[/citation]

Twist it and spin it all you want. Obtaining copyrighted material without paying for it is stealing - period. They may even deserve to have their copyrighted stuff stolen - but it is still stealing. If you don't like the price of something, you have the right NOT to buy it, but you do not have the right to steal it. If you think a car dealer wants too much for a car, do you have the right to steal the car???

Whine and spin all you want. P2P is going to die. ISPs are now required by law to give up your identity if you are sharing copyrighted material online. A "three strikes" law is in the process of becoming law - get caught sharing copyrighted material three times, and you lose your internet for life.

Don't like that? That's tough. They ARE going to stop P2P, and they're going to get away with it.
 

omnimodis78

Distinguished
Oct 7, 2008
886
0
19,010
[citation][nom]mlopinto2k1[/nom]Well, we all know that this is inevitable, right? I mean, allowing the distribution of pirated material is just like Pakistan harboring terrorists. Plain and simple.[/citation]
How about you stop typing and go buy the Lady Ga Ga CD (or whatever pleases your basic intellect) at HMV.
 
G

Guest

Guest
mlponto,

Dude you need to put your spliff out! We can give a rat's tail what you think of torrenting. And I wouldn't waste my time looking at your website for nothing in this world. You should just shut up and rejoin the crowd you've abandoned! And your pathetic defense of global copyright law is laughable.

As for jcknouse, you're doing it all wrong! The best way to make DVD movie copies is to go to the public library and check out all that they have (documentaries, DVDs, CDs, etc.) and make a copy using DVD Decrypter. I've even burned movies right in the library and returned them! Whatever the local library doesn't have should be obtained through a rapidly rotated queue through a mail-in service such as Netflix or Blockbuster. Simply copy the DVD movies when you get them and immediately send them back! So long as you stay away from BluRay, you can build a huge collection really fast and play them back on TV using an HDMI out or a $99 standalone multimedia player.

I know people with over 10TB of hoarded computer goodies (hard drive space that is available right now for $695 / no tax and free shipping ... at ChiefValue and Newegg [i.e. five 2TB Hard Drives at $139 each). There's a lot of educational stuff out there to! Hurray!

Happy Torrenting!
 
G

Guest

Guest
mlponto,

Dude you need to put your spliff out! We can give a rat's tail what you think of torrenting. And I wouldn't waste my time looking at your website for nothing in this world. You should just shut up and rejoin the crowd you've abandoned! And your pathetic defense of global copyright law is laughable.

As for jcknouse, you're doing it all wrong! The best way to make DVD movie copies is to go to the public library and check out all that they have (documentaries, DVDs, CDs, etc.) and make a copy using DVD Decrypter. I've even burned movies right in the library and returned them! Whatever the local library doesn't have should be obtained through a rapidly rotated queue through a mail-in service such as Netflix or Blockbuster. Simply copy the DVD movies when you get them and immediately send them back! So long as you stay away from BluRay, you can build a huge collection really fast and play them back on TV using an HDMI out or a $99 standalone multimedia player.

I know people with over 10TB of hoarded computer goodies (hard drive space that is available right now for $695 / no tax and free shipping ... at ChiefValue and Newegg [i.e. five 2TB Hard Drives at $139 each). There's a lot of educational stuff out there to! Hurray!

Happy Torrenting!
 

mlopinto2k1

Distinguished
Apr 25, 2006
1,433
0
19,280
[citation][nom]Chabla[/nom]mlponto,Dude you need to put your spliff out! We can give a rat's tail what you think of torrenting. And I wouldn't waste my time looking at your website for nothing in this world. You should just shut up and rejoin the crowd you've abandoned! And your pathetic defense of global copyright law is laughable.As for jcknouse, you're doing it all wrong! The best way to make DVD movie copies is to go to the public library and check out all that they have (documentaries, DVDs, CDs, etc.) and make a copy using DVD Decrypter. I've even burned movies right in the library and returned them! Whatever the local library doesn't have should be obtained through a rapidly rotated queue through a mail-in service such as Netflix or Blockbuster. Simply copy the DVD movies when you get them and immediately send them back! So long as you stay away from BluRay, you can build a huge collection really fast and play them back on TV using an HDMI out or a $99 standalone multimedia player.I know people with over 10TB of hoarded computer goodies (hard drive space that is available right now for $695 / no tax and free shipping ... at ChiefValue and Newegg [i.e. five 2TB Hard Drives at $139 each). There's a lot of educational stuff out there to! Hurray!Happy Torrenting![/citation]If you didn't give a "rat's tail" about what I think about torrenting, why do you even bother reading and saying anything about it? Your doomed if you keep pirating software and media. You can name call all ya want but I know the truth and so does anyone else who RESPECTS software companies. Obviously you have NO respect. But the point of the matter was that pirating is illegal. It has been illegal for a looong time. That's all I was saying. Everyone here who doesn't like that can go on and keep giving me a "thumbs down". And as far as me posting a link, that is my home page and what I have created and not once, nor will I reference you "GO LOOK AT IT". It's there for the taking. There are actually free services on the site anyway. Your pretty foolish not to take advantage of that.
 

mlopinto2k1

Distinguished
Apr 25, 2006
1,433
0
19,280
[citation][nom]omnimodis78[/nom]How about you stop typing and go buy the Lady Ga Ga CD (or whatever pleases your basic intellect) at HMV.[/citation]LOL, you have noooo idea.
 
Ok, but...the others sites? isohunt...gamestorrents...pctorrent...demonoid (the best)...axxofuperfundo...eztv...all this sites are .torrent sites, and not necesarlly all the material from this is pirated....
 

The_Blood_Raven

Distinguished
Jan 2, 2008
2,567
0
20,790
[citation][nom]lumpy[/nom]I hope they shut them all down.Im sick of You criminals,bittorrent is all about theft.Im so sick of this shit Ive started reporting people(customers\Friends) that have stolen software on their pcs.Ellmondo-Your just.. a moron.Your stealing from US ALL!get it?And dont give Me this crap about "i dont use B/T for illegal purpose"BS, everyone that uses b/T has downloaded illegal suff.You know its true.[/citation]

Go die you amoral ignorant ass hole.
 

sylvia648

Distinguished
Oct 28, 2009
47
0
18,530
[citation][nom]soo-nah-mee[/nom]Yeah, and all LAWS are perfectly justified. It is amazing to me how few people it seems dare question authority. It is also illegal to have a bag of weed in this country - complete BS. In some states it is illegal to put your wiener in another person's heiney hole.[/citation]


Pretty good round up, but(t) you're right that the ones that support the copyright laws are unthinking and ignorant fools. They don't question laws and they just take whatever is tossed in their face. You can some it up by asking them if they support the patriot act, and if they do they are lost. Anyone that supports giving away their freedom for the feeling of safety and bowing down to every law because its law will always be the weak ones enslaved by whoever is in power. They question nothing are are content with no stirring the pot.
 

sylvia648

Distinguished
Oct 28, 2009
47
0
18,530
[citation][nom]lumpy[/nom]I hope they shut them all down.Im sick of You criminals,bittorrent is all about theft.Im so sick of this shit Ive started reporting people(customers\Friends) that have stolen software on their pcs.Ellmondo-Your just.. a moron.Your stealing from US ALL!get it?And dont give Me this crap about "i dont use B/T for illegal purpose"BS, everyone that uses b/T has downloaded illegal suff.You know its true.[/citation]



You're a real piece of shit. Doing that to your own friends and family? I'm not sure even a Republican could sink that low... you're the lowest of them all.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.