News U.S. Govt Considering Plans to Crackdown China's Domestic 3D NAND Production

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U.S. government targets YMTC, Samsung, SK Hynix to protect American 3D NAND makers.

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[TheOtherOne]

Looks like most of the big US companies finally moved all of their sweat factories from China to somewhere in African countries! 🙄

 

[bit_user]

Is this part of the new CHIPS act? The Reuters article mentions it, but doesn't seem to clearly state whether it's due to this clause in the legislation or something completely separate:

Chipmakers that take money under the measure would be prohibited from building or expanding manufacturing for certain advanced chips, including advanced memory chips at a level to be determined by the administration, in countries including China.

That part of the CHIPS act makes sense, if you consider that the legislation is a taxpayer subsidy to ensure significant domestic production capacity. It would therefore be self-defeating if it ended up being used to subsidize fab production or expansion in China.

 

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Is this part of the new CHIPS act? The Reuters article mentions it, but doesn't seem to clearly state whether it's due to this clause in the legislation or something completely separate:



That part of the CHIPS act makes sense, if you consider that the legislation is a taxpayer subsidy to ensure significant domestic production capacity. It would therefore be self-defeating if it ended up being used to subsidize fab production or expansion in China.

No, this has nothing to do with the CHIPS act. It is in addition to previous measures against Chinese fabs making 14nm or smaller nodes. It applies to all American companies exporting say tech tools to China regardless whether they took money from CHIPS or not. It’s just America rearing its ugly head in anti-competitive strategies and finally laying their dirty hands bare with a near blanket ban of current gen tools in an attempt to throw China back to the 80s.
This is all so that American tech companies can keep charging an arm and a leg for cleverly advertised products as often as they like.
They make one small tweak to the firmware every year to improve performance by 0.99% and call it Gen X.0 coming with a 15% premium. GL!

 

[bit_user]

It’s just America rearing its ugly head in anti-competitive strategies and finally laying their dirty hands bare with a near blanket ban of current gen tools in an attempt to throw China back to the 80s.
This is all so that American tech companies can keep charging an arm and a leg for cleverly advertised products as often as they like.

That's if they do it. It's just a rumor, at this point. Might want to save some of that moral outrage for when it actually happens (assuming it does).

FWIW, I support some kind of retaliation for China's rampant industrial espionage, dumping, and other aggressive trade practices. If it's done in that context, then I could support it. However, I don't like to see such measures as this supposed export ban taken for purely competitive reasons.