Ultimate Bottlenecking Guide/Discussion Thread!

[pcfreaky]

MSI Afterburner shows that I use around 11.5GB RAM at MAX. I also had 3-4 tabs in google chrome open, spotify and maybe origin and uplay. So it's not getting maxed out if that answers your question... 🙁 :I

 

[TechyInAZ]

Yep, on most of the latest games a 1070 + old core i5 will have that issue. But you shouldn't get mouse lag or sound stutters.

That would be caused by insufficient RAM wouldn't it?

16GB is plenty for a gaming PC, if he had 8GB, then that would be a possibility.

You have any idea from what it is/What causes the mouse and sound stutter/lag? D:
But it's only in Titanfall 2 Multiplayer, so it's not the end of the world for me xD
It helps when I put windows sound from 7.1 to stereo.....

Unfortunately I wouldn't know. I suggest you make a new thread regarding your issue. More people can probably help you there.

 

[ItsChristian]

why is there no 2nd gen intel cpus? are all of 2nd gen intel bottleneck all of the cards?

 

[TechyInAZ]

why is there no 2nd gen intel cpus? are all of 2nd gen intel bottleneck all of the cards?

You are correct.

 

[stavrosmast]

Most people I asked told me that the i5-3570k won't bottleneck the 1070. Atleast not by much.
Well.....I just can not agree with that at ALL! It's not fun playing games while seing 100% Cpu usage and 40%-60% GPU Usage.
Ofcourse its not on most games, but its happening in GTA 5, Watch Dogs 2 and Titanfall 2 Multiplayer! Titanfall 2 is really weird because in Multiplayer my mouse gets VERY laggy and sound is stuttering while my CPU is at 100% usage.
I'm getting a i7-6700k because I just cant deal with this annoyance and I want as little as possible GPU bottleneck!

PC Specs currentely:
B75MA-p45
i5-3570k OC to 3.8Ghz
Zotac GTX 1070 AMP! Extreme
Corsair Vengeance 650W
16GB RAM
1TB (D)+500GB (C (Windows))
1080p 60hz display

Hey... just got a 1070 and with my i5-4460 there is no bottleneck in 1080p at least with gta... In watch dogs 2 its very light but with v sync its ok. ( I am in triple monitors 1080x3)

 

[TechyInAZ]

Most people I asked told me that the i5-3570k won't bottleneck the 1070. Atleast not by much.
Well.....I just can not agree with that at ALL! It's not fun playing games while seing 100% Cpu usage and 40%-60% GPU Usage.
Ofcourse its not on most games, but its happening in GTA 5, Watch Dogs 2 and Titanfall 2 Multiplayer! Titanfall 2 is really weird because in Multiplayer my mouse gets VERY laggy and sound is stuttering while my CPU is at 100% usage.
I'm getting a i7-6700k because I just cant deal with this annoyance and I want as little as possible GPU bottleneck!

PC Specs currentely:
B75MA-p45
i5-3570k OC to 3.8Ghz
Zotac GTX 1070 AMP! Extreme
Corsair Vengeance 650W
16GB RAM
1TB (D)+500GB (C (Windows))
1080p 60hz display

Hey... just got a 1070 and with my i5-4460 there is no bottleneck in 1080p at least with gta... In watch dogs 2 its very light but with v sync its ok. ( I am in triple monitors 1080x3)

If your running high res like 5760 x 1080, then you won't bottleneck as badly. If your frame rate is above 140fps, that's where the CPU starts choking.

 

[SSD_ DAVE]

Can you post anything for the 1050/1050 Ti that came out recently? I want to see if a CPU upgrade would be worth the money.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Sorry about that sir, I forgot that this thread needs updating for the 1050 and 1050 ti.

I'll get that done as soon as I can. ETA will be in a few days or less (hopefully).

 

[Schui1024]

I'm running a 1080 with 5760x1080 res. Upgraded from a 780ti which was running things fine but with this new 1080 I'm getting worse performance!
With the i7 2600k @ 4.4, 16GB ram and SSD's, everything was smooth with the eye candy off on the 780ti, however the 1080 is struggling on the same settings.
It reports 60-70fps in watchdogs, the division is less than that, whereas previously I was getting 70+ on the 780ti. It jumps, judders and tears about the place like crazy.

I've reinstalled Windows 10 (and 7 and 8), fresh build with Nvidia and Steam, same issues. Weirdly the OS seems a little dull and sluggish since the card change.

Any bright ideas before I return the GPU? (Gigabyte 1080 G1 Gaming)

Passmark benchmarks are:
CPU - 9612
3D GFX- 8548
Memory - 2692
Disk - 4196

 

[TechyInAZ]

What's your PSU? Infact, list all your specs if I may ask.

 

[stavrosmast]

I'm running a 1080 with 5760x1080 res. Upgraded from a 780ti which was running things fine but with this new 1080 I'm getting worse performance!
With the i7 2600k @ 4.4, 16GB ram and SSD's, everything was smooth with the eye candy off on the 780ti, however the 1080 is struggling on the same settings.
It reports 60-70fps in watchdogs, the division is less than that, whereas previously I was getting 70+ on the 780ti. It jumps, judders and tears about the place like crazy.

I've reinstalled Windows 10 (and 7 and 8), fresh build with Nvidia and Steam, same issues. Weirdly the OS seems a little dull and sluggish since the card change.

Any bright ideas before I return the GPU? (Gigabyte 1080 G1 Gaming)

Passmark benchmarks are:
CPU - 9612
3D GFX- 8548
Memory - 2692
Disk - 4196

Try overclocking it, and installing newest drivers and unless you have an ssd try to go back to win 7/8.1

 

[Schui1024]

PSU is a 1000w Coolermaster Gold, so no issues with power.

The original issue was I killed my 780ti. I was hovering the guts of the PC and using a paint brush moving the dust off etc.. Played about 5 mins of a game and boom, pc freezes etc. Tried diff drivers, reinstalled windows MANY times etc.. same result. We tried the 780ti in a mates pc with the same results, so it was toast. The 1080 really wasn't working well, seemed to make the entire PC go sluggish. Same results in the other pc which is bizarre. Anyway the 1080 is going back, and I'll wait until the ti version comes out then upgrade the lot. (probably)

Believe it or not, I thought I'd clean up the 780ti cooler before selling it for spares/parts on fleabay. Whilst I was cleaning the cooler I threw the pcb in the oven at 210 for 10 mins. (along with my dinner). Let it cool, put it back in and bingo! It's working fine. In fact it's running cooler than before!

So although it smells a little bit of lasagne, its actually doing rather well in its 2nd life!

Thanks for all your advice..

 

[TechyInAZ]

Alright, the GTX 1050 Ti Chart is up and running! I've also incorporated Kaby Lake into all charts except for the maxwell chart.

If anybody needs me to do an RX 470 and RX 460 bottlenecking chart, ask, and I will do it.

 

[rishab2000]

Alright, the GTX 1050 Ti Chart is up and running! I've also incorporated Kaby Lake into all charts except for the maxwell chart.

If anybody needs me to do an RX 470 and RX 460 bottlenecking chart, ask, and I will do it.

That'd be great

 

[ItsChristian]

question again:
How about the Pentium G4560? is it bottlenecking the 1050 ti and 1060? I'm actully planning to buy one instead of an i3 6100/7100

 

[TechyInAZ]

A 1060, yeah a Pentium will bottleneck... But it shouldn't with a 1050 ti, even if it did, it would be incredibly minor.

 

[stavrosmast]

the 1050Ti is better than a 950 right??

 

[TechyInAZ]

the 1050Ti is better than a 950 right??

Performance wise they are very very similar. [strike]I'd say equal in performance if you dump all the benchmarks into one graph.[/strike]

Update: I take that back, the 1050 is nearly equal to the 950 but the 1050 ti still wins a vast majority of benchmarks: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti,4787-5.html

But, the 1050 Ti is better in power savings, features, and having more vram.

 

[stavrosmast]

So you could say Oc'd 1050Ti= stock 960?

 

[TechyInAZ]

So you could say Oc'd 1050Ti= stock 960?

Yes you are correct.

 

[Sagittariusss]

Wait, how's the i5 4690K is worst than the I5-6400? doesnt makes any sense at all. Quick google research on reviews and figured out the i5 4690k is better in cpu-intensive games.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Wait, how's the i5 4690K is worst than the I5-6400? doesnt makes any sense at all. Quick google research on reviews and figured out the i5 4690k is better in cpu-intensive games.

Simple, core clock. Haswell's performance compared to Skylake isn't that significant at all. Plus, add in the 6400s really low core clock compared to a 4690k at a high overclock, and the 4690k will always win.

 

[Sagittariusss]

Wait, how's the i5 4690K is worst than the I5-6400? doesnt makes any sense at all. Quick google research on reviews and figured out the i5 4690k is better in cpu-intensive games.

Simple, core clock. Haswell's performance compared to Skylake isn't that significant at all. Plus, add in the 6400s really low core clock compared to a 4690k at a high overclock, and the 4690k will always win.

if the i5-6400 was overclockable could we overclock it that much? maybe, but we can overclock the i5 4690k aswell. Basically you said, the i5 4690k is better than the i5-6400, and i still dont know why in your chart it is worst.

#edit thought you post was about bottlenecking and not about power effiency per fps.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Wait, how's the i5 4690K is worst than the I5-6400? doesnt makes any sense at all. Quick google research on reviews and figured out the i5 4690k is better in cpu-intensive games.

Simple, core clock. Haswell's performance compared to Skylake isn't that significant at all. Plus, add in the 6400s really low core clock compared to a 4690k at a high overclock, and the 4690k will always win.

if the i5-6400 was overclockable could we overclock it that much? maybe, but we can overclock the i5 4690k aswell. Basically you said, the i5 4690k is better than the i5-6400, and i still dont know why in your chart it is worst.

#edit thought you post was about bottlenecking and not about power effiency per fps.

Which specific chart are u talking about? Cause that's a typo of I said the 4690k is worse than the 6400.

The 6400 is actually overclockable, but you have to use BCLK which won't get you far at all. I can imagine you'd top out at 3.2ghzish.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Wait, how's the i5 4690K is worst than the I5-6400? doesnt makes any sense at all. Quick google research on reviews and figured out the i5 4690k is better in cpu-intensive games.

Simple, core clock. Haswell's performance compared to Skylake isn't that significant at all. Plus, add in the 6400s really low core clock compared to a 4690k at a high overclock, and the 4690k will always win.

if the i5-6400 was overclockable could we overclock it that much? maybe, but we can overclock the i5 4690k aswell. Basically you said, the i5 4690k is better than the i5-6400, and i still dont know why in your chart it is worst.

#edit thought you post was about bottlenecking and not about power effiency per fps.

Which specific chart are u talking about? Cause that's a typo of I said the 4690k is worse than the 6400.

The 6400 is actually overclockable, but you have to use BCLK which won't get you far at all. I can imagine you'd top out at 3.2ghzish.