Question Upgrade AM4 or Build AM5?

[gmacv]

Hello good people,
Recently my MSI 2070 died and below is my 2019 build.
Meanwhile, I can use the GPU at 800x600 for non-graphic tasks, I am considering upgrading to 4070 super and maybe the CPU/building AM5.
So I have these questions

1. Upgrade to 5700x3D/5800x3D with a new 4070 Super or build a new AM5 with 7800x3D with the same new 4070 Super?
2. If I go with the upgrade, would the existing AIO and RAM be good enough for the new CPU & GPU combo?
3. If going with the new build, should I wait for the Zen 5 release and test benchmarks compared to the 7800x3D? I can wait till August end, max + the availability/higher launch price could be an issue in asia.
   
   Existing 2019 Build:

🔹CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700x @4.1 GHz @1.325v LLC-T OverClocked
🔹GPU: [DEAD] MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR
🔹RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB @3000MHz XMP CL16
🔹AIO: Corsair H150i PRO 360 Rad
🔹MB: Gigabyte X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI
🔹CASE: Corsair Crystal 570x RGB
🔹PSU: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Semi
🔹STORAGE: Kingston A400 480 GB 2.5" SSD + Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB NVMe
🔹FANS: Corsair LL120 RGB x9-Push-Pull Config
🔹MONITORS: Two 27 inch 1080p Monitors @ 144Hz & 75Hz

As per my research, a lot of people consider the upgrade and would stay with the build till AM6 but I am just concerned about the age of the build coming close to 6 years & if for example, the motherboard died in a year, then the CPU upgrade would be a big loss.

I play a lot of games, do some coding, & a lot of video & photo editing.

 

[logainofhades]

Your cooler is fine, but I would upgrade the ram, if you go upgrade route. For what you are doing I would even consider a 2x32gb kit.

Personally, I would wait on the CPU decision until after Ryzen 9000 releases next month.

You probably will want PSU upgrade as well, for the new GPU. If you stay on 1080p, the 4070 Super will be ok. It's 12gb vram I fear will become quite limiting, in newer titles, in the future, at higher resolutions.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hello good people,
Recently my MSI 2070 died and below is my 2019 build.
Meanwhile, I can use the GPU at 800x600 for non-graphic tasks, I am considering upgrading to 4070 super and maybe the CPU/building AM5.
So I have these questions

1. Upgrade to 5700x3D/5800x3D with a new 4070 Super or build a new AM5 with 7800x3D with the same new 4070 Super?
2. If I go with the upgrade, would the existing AIO and RAM be good enough for the new CPU & GPU combo?
3. If going with the new build, should I wait for the Zen 5 release and test benchmarks compared to the 7800x3D? I can wait till August end, max + the availability/higher launch price could be an issue in asia.
   
   Existing 2019 Build:

🔹CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700x @4.1 GHz @1.325v LLC-T OverClocked
🔹GPU: [DEAD] MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR
🔹RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB @3000MHz XMP CL16
🔹AIO: Corsair H150i PRO 360 Rad
🔹MB: Gigabyte X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI
🔹CASE: Corsair Crystal 570x RGB
🔹PSU: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Semi
🔹STORAGE: Kingston A400 480 GB 2.5" SSD + Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB NVMe
🔹FANS: Corsair LL120 RGB x9-Push-Pull Config
🔹MONITORS: Two 27 inch 1080p Monitors @ 144Hz & 75Hz

As per my research, a lot of people consider the upgrade and would stay with the build till AM6 but I am just concerned about the age of the build coming close to 6 years & if for example, the motherboard died in a year, then the CPU upgrade would be a big loss.

I play a lot of games, do some coding, & a lot of video & photo editing.

Hey there,

1. I'd suggest going the full system upgrade. 7800x3d with 40470 Super will be really good.
2. AIO, yes. Ram, no. Zen 4 are DDR5 systems.
3. If onlyfor gaming, the 7800x3d will be potent for a few years.

 

[kira-faye]

You're running DDR4, so if you go AM5 you will have to get new RAM - so far as I know all AM5 boards required DDR5, and this is at least part of where their (negligible, depending on your use case) speed advantage comes from.

Assuming your board will support the 5700X3D (make sure you update bios and confirm before buying the new chip), that would be your cheapest upgrade option. I do agree the 2700X will be limiting a 4070 quite a bit.

The AIO should be enough, but at that age there's a good chance it is down on fluid or starting to get clogged up with stuff. Looks like a fairly roomy case, so one of the big cheap (~$40) Thermalright dual tower HSF is the easy fix.

Look at performance, 5700X3D vs 7800X3D, work out the price difference, decide if it's worth it for you. Sadly it's too personal and complex a call to get from someone else.

And as @logainofhades said, you'll likely need a new PSU as well, either way.

 

[logainofhades]

Depending on how important your video editing peformance is to you, you might want to consider a non x3d chip.

 

[gmacv]

Depending on how important your video editing peformance is to you, you might want to consider a non x3d chip.

Video editing is not the primary focus for me. Gaming is, so I'll stick with x3d chips for now. Even at 2700x, the editing performance did not bother me.