Question Upgrade failed from i7 14700F to i9 14900k

[ridwan123]

Hello i almost failed in this upgrade because in cpu benchmark i saw no difference result.idk why i always fail in upgrading, the thing i consider if u own i9 14900k for better result u should run all p core on 6 ghz ,to do that u need to set the core ratio highest possible and raise the icc max to .but mine is cant because in 5.4 ghz during gaming the cpu already reach high enough temperature and if in 6 ghz u know la the cooler deepcool LE720 360MM AIO LIQUID cannot hold it.i need opinion how to make my upgrade better ,i cannot upgrade too much because i already bought the i9 14900k.the i7 14700F also run on 5,4 ghz on 300 icc max.in 6 ghz the mos also will be damage i think

I9 14900k
Xfx rx 7900 xtx
6000 mhz 16×2 corsair
850 w psu
Z790 gigabyte gaming x ax ddr 5

How to get better?

 

[logainofhades]

A 14900k was more of a sidegrade than an upgrade for gaming. You are not going to get 6ghz across all cores. 6ghz is single core only. To put it bluntly, you wasted your money getting a 14900k, when you already had a 14700f.

 

[ridwan123]

A 14900k was more of a sidegrade than an upgrade for gaming. You are not going to get 6ghz across all cores. 6ghz is single core only. To put it bluntly, you wasted your money getting a 14900k, when you already had a 14700f.

Ridicoulous i think i can run 6 ghz in all p core but its different.i only benefit from more core in gaming that i9 14900k offer a little

 

[RodroX]

Ridicoulous i think i can run 6 ghz in all p core but its different.i only benefit from more core in gaming that i9 14900k offer a little

Im guessing you are not aware of intels 13 and 14 th gen issues with high frecuecy, temps and fast degradation?

Anyways, few things to add to what @logainofhades already told you:
- The extra cores on the 14900K, at least for now, are not woth it for any current game.
- If you really want to push the 14900K that high, which I don't recommend knowing what we know, then you will have to get better cooling.
- The extra 600MHz you want to get I think (could be wrong) is sorta pointless. Considering that it will probably translate on just a few extra FPS, but if you don't care toasting and killing your CPU, you can keep trying.
- And finally, consider that your GPU also play a role in the FPS equation, depeding on the resolution and visual settings upgrading the CPU may have no impact at all. Specially when those CPUs are soo close togheter, performance wise.


Good luck!

 

[ridwan123]

A 14900k was more of a sidegrade than an upgrade for gaming. You are not going to get 6ghz across all cores. 6ghz is single core only. To put it bluntly, you wasted your money getting a 14900k, when you already had a 14700f.

Im guessing you are not aware of intels 13 and 14 th gen issues with high frecuecy, temps and fast degradation?

Anyways, few things to add to what @logainofhades already told you:
- The extra cores on the 14900K, at least for now, are not woth it for any current game.
- If you really want to push the 14900K that high, which I don't recommend knowing what we know, then you will have to get better cooling.
- The extra 600MHz you want to get I think (could be wrong) is sorta pointless. Considering that it will probably translate on just a few extra FPS, but if you don't care toasting and killing your CPU, you can keep trying.
- And finally, consider that your GPU also play a role in the FPS equation, depeding on the resolution and visual settings upgrading the CPU may have no impact at all. Specially when those CPUs are soo close togheter, performance wise.


Good luck!

Looking cpu for fps ITs just complicated though that my i9 14900k only use half of the core while gaming.its complicated it is because of the game is coded by itself or it just no need to run all the core.if lets say i buy 7800x3d 8 core 16 thread if the game is coded so it only use 4 core compare to i9 which is 12.it might be less powerful.it happens in dota 2 and in cs 2 i think it my 19 14900k is fully used like all the core have usage percentage

 

[logainofhades]

If a game is coded to only use 4 cores, it doesn't matter if you run a 9800x3d, 14900k, or a 64 core threadripper, the game will only use 4 cores.

 

[RodroX]

Looking cpu for fps ITs just complicated though that my i9 14900k only use half of the core while gaming.its complicated it is because of the game is coded by itself or it just no need to run all the core.if lets say i buy 7800x3d 8 core 16 thread if the game is coded so it only use 4 core compare to i9 which is 12.it might be less powerful.it happens in dota 2 and in cs 2 i think it my 19 14900k is fully used like all the core have usage percentage

The main issue here is that you are comparing the most powerful gaming cpus from Intel and AMD, and so you wont see a huge difference in all games, some may show improvements, but others only a tiny one.

If you ask me the 14900K is a very powerfull CPU for gaming. In some particular cases you may see more pefromance with the 7800X3D, depending on the GPU used, resolution and visual settings.

I feel for non profesional players, getting 500fps in CS2 vs getting 600fps is not going to make you a much better player.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Looking cpu for fps ITs just complicated though that my i9 14900k only use half of the core while gaming.its complicated it is because of the game is coded by itself or it just no need to run all the core.if lets say i buy 7800x3d 8 core 16 thread if the game is coded so it only use 4 core compare to i9 which is 12.it might be less powerful.it happens in dota 2 and in cs 2 i think it my 19 14900k is fully used like all the core have usage percentage

Listen to the advice you were given. You are chasing something you cannot get.

Also, even if you OC'ed either the 14700k r 14900k, the difference in FPS over stock, given it's already really high FPS, will bring you absolutely nothing.

But, as pointed out, it's your money to spend, and your business if you wanna try max out the CPU. However, they are not designed to do what you want. A 6ghz all core OC is not achievable. Perhaps with some exotic cooling and a lot more knowledge, like allen 'splave' golibersuch or someone.

Anyway, good luck.

 

[Eximo]

You can only achieve high overlocks with much lower temperatures. Off the shelf AIO just can't cool quickly enough. 14900K is basically already overclocked from the factory, and can easily pull 320W under a heavy load. I don't think I have seen 6Ghz on all P-core even with all the tricks combined.

A common activity is to actually undervolt these CPUs so that you can keep the temperatures down to get longer boost clock durations.

Delidding, liquid metal, direct die, lapping, contact frames, full custom loop would be the alternatives. All a great expense and warranty voiding activities. If you can't afford to replace the CPU, I would say that level of overclocking is not for you.