[SOLVED] Upgrade or no?

[nickkoops]

So i recently got a used set with an i5 4460 and 12 GB of DDR3 ram, I paired it with a 1050 ti and for the first weeks I was really enjoying the upgrade.. (from a i5 2400)
But recently i've come across some issues with 100% CPU usage in games like GTA 5 and Apex Legends. So I was wondering what should I do?
I have a 500 euros to spend on maybe an mobo, CPU and RAM? I was thinking about Ryzen maybe? I was thinking about a GTX 970 too..
So please help me out

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

Either of those would be a good upgrade for you.

For a CPU upgrade to make sense for you, you're going to need to upgrade to a modern midrange CPU. Something like the Ryzen 5 2600 or Core i5 8400, or higher. A GTX 970 would be a good upgrade, but you might want to look for something more modern in the same performance range, unless you can get a really good price on the 970. Something like a GTX 1060 6GB or even a new GTX 1660 would be comparable in performance. The 970 is a good card, but it is getting a bit old which means more heat and more power than the newer alternatives.

All that said, if you have frames to spare you could try increasing graphics settings to move more of the burden onto the GPU. The 4460 is plenty to run the game, it just isn't going to be able to drive high framerates... and it seems like the 1050Ti still has some power to give... oddly... the 4460 should be able to drive a GTX 1060 3GB or RX 570 with only a light CPU bottleneck.

So, if you are going to upgrade go for the CPU first, then as much GPU as you can get with your budget.

 

[nickkoops]

@justin.m.beauvais Thanks for the reply, so what I'm picking up is, I should upgrade my CPU to a ryzen 5 2600?
And the 1060 6 gb and the 1660 are wicked but would that fit in my 500 euros?

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

@justin.m.beauvais Thanks for the reply, so what I'm picking up is, I should upgrade my CPU to a ryzen 5 2600?
And the 1060 6 gb and the 1660 are wicked but would that fit in my 500 euros?

What country are you in? I'm going to try to piece together something for you in PCPartPicker. It takes into account local pricing and we'll see what can fit into the budget.

 

[nickkoops]

@justin.m.beauvais The Netherlands, Thanks you're a huge help!

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (€189.00 @ Paradigit)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€64.99 @ Paradigit)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€74.00 @ Paradigit)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB AORUS 4G Video Card (€219.00 @ Paradigit)
Total: €546.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-18 16:43 CET+0100

Well, I busted budget. It isn't even a super optimal build. However, it will perform pretty well. PCPartPicker had a rough time finding parts from local retailers. There was NOTHING for 8GB kits of 3000 or 3200 speed DDR4. The good news is that the RX 570 looks to be a good deal in just about every country... and is just about dead even with the GTX 970.

So, here are some other possible builds.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€105.00 @ Paradigit)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B450M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€64.99 @ Paradigit)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€74.00 @ Paradigit)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB AORUS 4G Video Card (€219.00 @ Paradigit)
Total: €462.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-18 16:48 CET+0100

The Ryzen 3 2200G is less of a CPU than the 2600, but is still about 15% faster than your i5. Next is an Intel build with the very capable i3 8100, which is 20% faster than your i5, but still comes out a bit expensive.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€169.00 @ Paradigit)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H310M DS2 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€69.00 @ Paradigit)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€74.00 @ Paradigit)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB AORUS 4G Video Card (€219.00 @ Paradigit)
Total: €531.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-18 16:51 CET+0100

Now, you don't HAVE to get a video card. It sounds like the 1050Ti you have still has some more performance to give... so we can wait on the video card upgrade and go with a more optimal Ryzen 5 build.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (€229.00 @ Paradigit)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€109.00 @ Paradigit)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€159.00 @ Paradigit)
Total: €497.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-03-18 16:53 CET+0100

Ryzen 5 2600X, this CPU is awesome and fits in budget when we wait to get the GPU later. I could also fit 16GB of RAM at the proper speed for Ryzen in there. You should be very happy with this system, and when you can upgrade your GPU there is nothing holding you back from going as high as you want to.

Hope something here gives you an idea of how to spend your money. I'm afraid things are just a bit rough for a 500 euro budget in the performance range you are looking at.

 

[nickkoops]

@justin.m.beauvais wow thanks for the effort!! But what if i would keep the 1050 ti for a while, would a 16 GB of ram fit in the build?

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

@justin.m.beauvais wow thanks for the effort!! But what if i would keep the 1050 ti for a while, would a 16 GB of ram fit in the build?

Yes it would. So, take the 2600, the Asus motherboard, and the 16 GB of RAM and it'll all be within budget. You can play around with PCPartPicker and see what will work for you as well.

 

[nickkoops]

Yes it would. So, take the 2600, the Asus motherboard, and the 16 GB of RAM and it'll all be within budget. You can play around with PCPartPicker and see what will work for you as well.

Thanks alot man! Just one more question, Does my 450 W PSU do the trick?

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

Yes. Though, when you upgrade your GPU plan on upgrading the PSU as well. A new GPU might run alright on it, but better safe than sorry.

 

[nickkoops]

So now, I have a ryzen 5 2600,
G.Skill Ripjaws V ( 3000 MHz ( PC4-24000 )
MSI B450 GAMING PLUS
These are the parts i have selected and they all cost 382 euros, Worth it?
@justin.m.beauvais

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

Those parts will make for a good machine. I'd say they are worth it.

 

[nickkoops]

Those parts will make for a good machine. I'd say they are worth it.

Thanks again for the effort, will think about it