Question Upgraded from rtx 1060 to rtx 4070 but now have SIGNIFICANTLY worse FPS in games

[Raohhh]

Hello,

I have recently bought a new monitor and a RTX 4070 graphics card in hopes that I might be able to improve the graphics and performance of some games.
Since the upgrade, without changing the resolution or any of the graphics settings of the games I play, things that use to run at 60 fps at 1080p now can only manage 30 fps! In addition, when trying to run a game at 1440p, games can only manage ~ 10fps! It feels like the card or something else is misconfigured or broken? I am having trouble finding a bottleneck. Here are some specifics.

My current desktop specifications:
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z170X-Gaming 3
CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K (Skylake-S, R0)
4000 MHz (40.00x100.0) @ 4000 MHz (40.00x100.0)
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z170X-Gaming 3
BIOS: F7, 06/03/2016
Chipset: Intel Z170 (Skylake PCH-H)
Memory: 16384 MBytes @ 1066 MHz, 15-15-15-36
- 8192 MB PC25600 DDR4 SDRAM - G.Skill F4-3200C16-8GTZB
- 8192 MB PC25600 DDR4 SDRAM - G.Skill F4-3200C16-8GTZB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 (AD104-250) [ASUS]
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070, 12281 MB GDDR6X SDRAM
Drive: WDC WD10EZEX-08WN4A0, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive: WDC WD10EZEX-08WN4A0, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB, 244.2 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Drive: WDC WD10EZEX-08WN4A0, 976.8 GB, Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 6Gb/s
Sound: Intel Skylake PCH-H - High Definition Audio Controller
Sound: NVIDIA AD104 - High Definition Audio Controller
Network: Rivet Networks Killer e2400 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) Build 19045.3324 (22H2)
PSU: EVGA 210-GQ-0750-V1 750 GQ, 80+ GOLD 750W

In addition to upgrading the graphics card from a Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1060 to a ASUS Geforce RTX 4070, I also upgraded my monitor from a ASUS 1080p 60hz to a MSI 1440p 165hz monitor. The specific monitor I have now is MSI Optix MAG274QRF-QD.

Heres some screenshots of sensors and monitors below while playing Elden Ring at 2560x1440p at "High" settings with Ray Tracing turned off (18 FPS!):

https://imgur.com/a/2oiiVZe

View: https://imgur.com/a/2oiiVZe


Some things I have tried to fix the problem so far:

I have tried using DDU to uninstall all graphics related drivers and re-install graphics drivers to no effect.

I have tried using the physical switch on the GPU itself to switch it from "performance" mode to "quiet" mode.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

Install and run this benchmark tool and share the results page. https://www.userbenchmark.com/

It may detect a specific component that is giving trouble.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

Have you tried updating your bios?

 

[Raohhh]

Here are the results from userbenchmark.com

Gigabyte Z170X-GAMING 3 Performance Results - UserBenchmark

I have not tried updating my BIOS. I will try that now.

 

[punkncat]

XMP doesn't appear to be on, and you have fairly high CPU background use.

IDK if that is going to explain that framerate though...

 

[Raohhh]

Its bad that my GPU is "Performing below potential (2nd percentile)" right? Doesnt that mean something is very wrong?

Still trying to figure out how to update bios.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

Its bad that my GPU is "Performing below potential (2nd percentile)" right? Doesnt that mean something is very wrong?

Still trying to figure out how to update bios.

GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 (rev. 1.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

www.gigabyte.com

How to Update the BIOS on a PC: 3 Ways to Get New Firmware

You may be able to upgrade, without even booting.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[SkyNetRising]

Its bad that my GPU is "Performing below potential (2nd percentile)" right? Doesnt that mean something is very wrong?

Enable XMP first.
Then redo the benchmark.

Check cpu temperatures. CPU might be overheating or
you have turbo boost disabled.

 

[Raohhh]

I updated the BIOS, which hadn't been updated since 2016. Windows failed to boot 3 times in a row and I had to unplug all of my monitors except 1 to get it to boot successfully, then plug them back in after windows booted which was weird, hopefully that doesn't happen again.

However, I reran the UserBenchmark test and got way better results on the GPU:

Gigabyte Z170X-GAMING 3 Performance Results - UserBenchmark

I also retried the games I was having an issue with like Elden Ring and I no longer have a framerate issue, so I think updating the BIOS completely fixed the problem! Thank you for the replies everyone!

EDIT: I tried updating the thread from "Question" to "Solved" but solved wasn't an option I can choose for some reason.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

Looks like you still need to enable XMP in the BIOS. This will enable your RAM to run at full speed.

 

[SorryBella]

It feels like the card or something else is misconfigured or broken?

Lets try the usual laundry list of things you should do post GPU upgrades.

1. Have you made sure that latest windows update is already installed including security patches?
2. Have you cleanly uninstall, and then reinstall your graphics driver?
3. Are you sure that the latest CPU chipset drivers are installed, and BIOS is at its latest version - or at least not its release version if you bought this on launch day?

Also, send me your GPU-Z Screenshot. You can get GPU-Z here.

TechPowerUp

GPU-Z is a lightweight system utility designed to provide vital information about your video card and graphics processor.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Avro Arrow]

I would say that the card is defective. If you were getting double the frames with a GTX 1060 and have changed nothing else, there's something wrong with the card. The only other possibility is that the RTX 4070 uses a different driver set than the GTX 1060 and you didn't remove the old driver with DDU.

As a side note, I would stay away from LoserBenchmark if I were you. Unigine Superposition is a much better video card benchmark and Passmark is a much better full PC benchmark. The best is probably 3DMark but Unigine and Passmark are free.

 

[ilukey77]

could the mobo pcie x16 slot be running at gen 3 speeds not gen 4 and by default nerfing the 4070 ??

 

[SorryBella]

could the mobo pcie x16 slot be running at gen 3 speeds not gen 4 and by default nerfing the 4070 ??

The only 4000 series GPU that nearly saturates 3.0 link are 4090, and even then theyre still fine performance wise at 3.0x16. Its at the lower end where the GPU lane support are cut while the board expects x16 connections. This is why it is an issue on lower end GPU like RX 6400 and RTX 4060.

 

[Raohhh]

Thank you for the replies everyone!

As I mentioned in a previous post, I updated the BIOS which had not been updated since 2016 with QFLASH and that appears to have completely fixed the problem! I now no longer have any performance issues with the 4070 at 1080p or 1440p and have high framerates.

After that, I did try to enable XMP in my BIOS for my RAM (it didn't really say enable, I switched it to "PROFILE 1"), but the results were kinda catastrophic. Windows failed to boot 3 times in a row. Then on the 4th boot windows claimed that windows\System32\drivers\iaStorAVC.sys was missing or contained errors!

Then on the 5th boot it wouldn't even boot to the BIOS! The monitor received nothing at all from the video card! And every boot from then on was just black screen. No BIOS.

I had to short the CMOS pins with a flat head screwdriver and reboot 3 times in a row before it even got to the BIOS successfully a single time, but once it did it seems to have reverted the XMP setting for the BIOS (but the BIOS update remained) and windows booted successfully.

So for the time being I dont think im gonna try to enable XMP anymore! Very stressful!

I tried earlier and now to set this thread from "Question" to "Solved" but I can't figure out how, so if anyone has the ability to do that feel free to do so. Thank you!