US vs EU pc game packagings

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OldDog wrote:
> "Hank the Rapper" <xflopgoon@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> OldDog wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think you are using this word correctly. Now if I were to
>>> say that I think pc gaming is evil, and yet play 4 hrs of HL2 a
>>> night, then I would be a hypocrite. If I were to complain about
>>> the folks in here misspailing words, and not spail checking my own
>>> , then I would be a hypocrite. If I were to say that I don't
>>> waste stuff, and yet throw pc game boxes away, then I would be a
>>> hypocrite.
>>
>> If I may add one more, you are a hypocrite if you tell everyone you
>> only buy three-year-old budget games, but tell everyone else to buy
>> all their games new.
>>
>
> Touche!
>
>>> I try to cut down on the use of paper products, gas use, and other
>>> resources.
>>> I do my best to recycle cans, paper, and other items.
>>> I do a submarine shower. (Turn on water for 1min, soap up, turn
>>> water back on and rinse).
>>> I try not to drive to the store unless I have a lot of items on my
>>> shopping list.
>>> I try not to eat out.
>>> I ....
>>
>> I suggest you pick up Penn & Teller Season 2 to find out more about
>> recycling.
>>
>
> This one?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00019PDNY/103-0198772-8867068?v=glance
>
> "....In the "Environmental Hysteria" episode, for instance, Penn and
> Teller 'expose' environentalism as a farce by... showing us many
> clips of the looniest environmentalists they can get their hands on.
> But this doesn't disprove environenmentalism's claims; it only casts
> doubt on some of the players. Other episodes do similar things: they
> take a belief, show that there are some very strange people who
> believe in it, and conclude, from that, that it is bunk - "Bullsh.t."

No, season 2 of Bullshit.

http://tinyurl.com/5w5mr (tinyurled because the orginal didn't work)

They do an episode about recycling.

 

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, "OldDog" wrote:

<snip liar ignorant fanatical environmentalist>

please tell us all about what would you do liar ignorant fanatical
environmentalist to the world if you were in charge?
would you stop all factory manufacturing?
oh yes? and how would all those working people survive?
would you feed their families? their children?
you are disgusting and i will not want to ever again reply to you!

and as for what you call me about microsoft, i really enjoy it,
cause it proves you are a LIAR!
YOU ARE A LIAR AND A BLIND FANATICAL!

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:17:43 +0000, sayNO2steam <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
><snip liar ignorant fanatical environmentalist>
>
>please tell us all about what would you do liar ignorant fanatical
>environmentalist to the world if you were in charge?
>would you stop all factory manufacturing?
>oh yes? and how would all those working people survive?
>would you feed their families? their children?
>you are disgusting and i will not want to ever again reply to you!
>
>and as for what you call me about microsoft, i really enjoy it,
>cause it proves you are a LIAR!
>YOU ARE A LIAR AND A BLIND FANATICAL!

Ahh. Puts me in mind of the good old days of Alexander Abian, it does.


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"sayNO2steam" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
> <snip liar ignorant fanatical environmentalist>
>
> please tell us all about what would you do liar ignorant fanatical
> environmentalist to the world if you were in charge?

I'm not sure what you mean?

> would you stop all factory manufacturing?
> oh yes? and how would all those working people survive?
> would you feed their families? their children?

What are you talking about?

> you are disgusting and i will not want to ever again reply to you!
>

I'll have to print this out, even though it's a waste of paper, and frame it
on my wall. 😉


> and as for what you call me about microsoft, i really enjoy it,
> cause it proves you are a LIAR!
> YOU ARE A LIAR AND A BLIND FANATICAL!
>

Save a tree and go Steam.

ps Have you seen "12 Angry Men" yet? Do you have a VCR or DVD player?

 

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"Chadwick" <chadwick110@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> sayNO2steam wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
> >
> > <snip liar ignorant fanatical environmentalist>
> >
> > please tell us all about what would you do liar ignorant fanatical
> > environmentalist to the world if you were in charge?
> > would you stop all factory manufacturing?
> > oh yes? and how would all those working people survive?
> > would you feed their families? their children?
> > you are disgusting and i will not want to ever again reply to you!
>
> Hmm, someone must have hacked Usenet and erased the bit where OldDog
> said that.
>
<snip>

Actually I have a filter turned on so that he only get's to see every other
word that I post. 😉

 

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"OldDog" <OldDog@city.pound> wrote in message
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> "sayNO2steam" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ms2d3190ds3a6eulljf56b48kifi42ll5i@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>>
>> <snip liar ignorant fanatical environmentalist>
>>
>> please tell us all about what would you do liar ignorant fanatical
>> environmentalist to the world if you were in charge?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean?
>
>> would you stop all factory manufacturing?
>> oh yes? and how would all those working people survive?
>> would you feed their families? their children?
>
> What are you talking about?
>
>> you are disgusting and i will not want to ever again reply to you!
>>
>
> I'll have to print this out, even though it's a waste of paper, and
> frame it on my wall. 😉
>
>
>> and as for what you call me about microsoft, i really enjoy it,
>> cause it proves you are a LIAR!
>> YOU ARE A LIAR AND A BLIND FANATICAL!
>>
>
> Save a tree and go Steam.
>
> ps Have you seen "12 Angry Men" yet? Do you have a VCR or DVD
> player?

LOL! To wit: He reminds me of Beetlejuice. Yes, he does! At the end
where he takes the old Indio's ticket and the guy sprinkles some
headshrink dust on him...while Beetlejuice is talking all squeaky...
THAT part
McG.

 

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I don't know about you, maybe the type of games you play are different
than the ones I play, but I do like having a somewhat think manual that
wouldn't fit in a EU box like you mention.
The games I play (RPGs) most of the time have a world, with a history,
with personalities. Also, there are descriptions for spells, game
mechanics, etc. much more complicated than the console-style 8 page
manual can hope to cover.
I like paper manuals included in the box, thanks. So I prefer US
packaging

 

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sayNO2steam wrote:
> do you read me fanatical environmentalist! this earth is ours! and
> we have all the right to use it!
> factories are great!
> it's manufacturing and factories and technology that is making our
> society so prosperous and full of opportunities!

But their "overuse" over the past 200 years or so has affected the
"balance of nature" and the global climate, so we should be trying to
slow this down while we work out some other way of manufacturing that
is less dmagaing to the environment.

 

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In article <Ly6_d.627$Uw5.469@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>,
"EvilBill" <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote:

>It's also based on nature being nice to look at. I don't know about you, but
>I hate cities. <g>

Well I'm fortunate to be born in and live in one of the most natural
and beautiful places left, certainly one of the last majestic coastal rain
forests--Vancouver. I can be in Vancouver swimming in the ocean, skiing
on one of the surrounding mountains, or in wilderness forest without
ever seeing another person, all within 40 miles and an hour. So like you,
I too have a deep appreciation for nature.

>Plus the fact that the ultimate non-renewable resource - clean air - is
>getting FUBAR'd...

Air can be cleaned. Clean air isn't non-renewable. It's only chemistry. But
what is non-renwable are the brain cells lost by those who believe such
things as the Kyoto accord will do a damn thing for the environment. It's
nothing more than social engineering and a plan to redistribute wealth.
Let's see--those bastard polluting North Americans--you can't do that
anymore. Oh, wait a minute, you can if you want to send some cash to
Russia or India and buy some credits.

Jim

 

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In article <A58_d.9136$Ux.5736@tornado.texas.rr.com
>, "OldDog" <OldDog@city.pound> wrote:

>1. I could toss my cans/paper in the trash, but believe that recycling is
>a better means than the dump.
>2. Water here in Texas isn't cheap.
>3. IMO I am acting responsible.

Well what I responded to made no mention of the cost of water,
or recycling. I don't disagree with the above. What I did disagree
with was the notion that not driving, conserving oil, was something
we should embrace. That's playing right into the hands of the pricks
who have us by the throat, and is meaningless to our survival in the
long run.

>You are entitled to your opinion. And I know a lot of Grasshoppers out
>there playing their fiddle while they drive around in their Hummers.


Good Grasshoppers ! Leading us into the next century ! <g>

>Happy partying...
>Do a little dance
>Make a little luv
>Get down to night
>
>BTW I didn't say we were doomed. There's always the stone age to fall
>back on. 😉


Wouldn't bother me--in fact I yearn for the old days. <g>

Jim

 

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foamy wrote:

> Well what I responded to made no mention of the cost of water,
> or recycling. I don't disagree with the above. What I did disagree
> with was the notion that not driving, conserving oil, was something
> we should embrace. That's playing right into the hands of the pricks
> who have us by the throat, and is meaningless to our survival in the
> long run.

Conservation only goes so far. Since the resource, oil for instance, is
non renewable, our rate of consumption doesn't really matter. We also
have a ton of alternative fuels out there and we have some options open
to use.

I'd also like to plug Bio-Diesel. If we are really that worried about
efficient use of our resources, Bio-Diesel seems to be the way to go.

>>You are entitled to your opinion. And I know a lot of Grasshoppers out
>>there playing their fiddle while they drive around in their Hummers.
> Good Grasshoppers ! Leading us into the next century ! <g>

ARGGG...I hate the H2. The original Hummer was nice! You could take it
anywhere and it was fun to drive. The H2 is made for soccer moms who
want a "safe" car that will kill anyone they run into.

The H2 reminds me of the Canyonero

Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..

Canyonero! Canyonero!

Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!

Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!
[Krusty:] Hey Hey

[Announcer]The Federal Highway commission has ruled the
Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving.

Canyonero!

12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
65 tons of American Pride!

Canyonero! Canyonero!

Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are par for the course!

Canyonero! Canyonero! (Yah!)

She blinds everybody with her super high beams,
She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!

Canyonero!-oh woah, Canyonero! (Yah!)

Drive Canyonero!

Woah Canyonero!

Woah!

>>Happy partying...
>>Do a little dance
>>Make a little luv
>>Get down to night
>>
>>BTW I didn't say we were doomed. There's always the stone age to fall
>>back on. 😉
> Wouldn't bother me--in fact I yearn for the old days. <g>

I'd miss my computer ;-)

 

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Johnny Bravo wrote:

> As if a computer takes less of "mother nature"'s materials than a

for god sake it was being ironic!
its he who is against manufactured goods not me!
the fanatical environmentalist is always saying pc games destroys
mother nature so when he asked me if i had a vcr i replied the way
he thinks which is obviously i can't have nothing manufactured in
a factory cause its destroys the environment
my english is awful i know, but please don't mess up what i believe
i love factories! factories produces goods for us all to use!
its wonderful!
do you read me fanatical environmentalist! this earth is ours! and
we have all the right to use it!
factories are great!
it's manufacturing and factories and technology that is making our
society so prosperous and full of opportunities!

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:20:44 +0000, sayNO2steam
<sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote:

>it's manufacturing and factories and technology that is making our
>society so prosperous and full of opportunities!

And a good chance that the planet will be pretty much uninhabitable
within our lifetimes. I don't really care that you are completely
clueless about anything, it is just a shame that George Bush seems to
be of the same mind set when it comes to ecology.
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"Chadwick" <chadwick110@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> But their "overuse" over the past 200 years or so has affected the
> "balance of nature" and the global climate, so we should be trying to
> slow this down while we work out some other way of manufacturing that
> is less dmagaing to the environment.

According to an article in a recent issue of Scientific American (last
month, I think) we started throwing off the balance of nature about 8000
years ago when agriculture started to become mainstream. We may even have
delayed an iceage because of that.

 

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On the 15 Mar 2005, "OldDog" <OldDog@city.pound> wrote:

> You can reduce waste by selecting products that are not wasteful in their
> "packaging". The package surrounding the product really only needs to be
> designed to protect the product from damage, keep it clean and sanitary, and
> present product information.

I'm not sure that the EU-wide switch to DVD boxes for games had much to
do with the environment, I think it was more to do with the retailers
wanting to fit even more games in their shops.

> Speaking of dead people, I've already told my daughter that when I pass
> away, that I want to be cremated and for my asses to be fushed down the
> toilet.

I think you meant to type 'ashes' rather than 'asses'! ;-)

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>>I don't know about global warming. It seems to me that it may be
happening, but it might not. The ozone layer may naturally work like
this, we just don't know. In 10 more years we will have enough data to
know for sure, but until then I think it is just a pretty good educated
guess.<<

Had to chuckle at that. You are so right. The problem is, we simply don't
know. Heck, I remember in the early 70's we were being told with certainty
there was a new ice age coming! People forget earth's temperature was lower
than "normal" from 1940 to 1970 (or thereabouts). Fact is, the climate has
changed before, and will change again. We are only debating if we are
influencing it.
8^)

 

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:37:21 -0500, "Paul Fedorenko"
<pfedorenko@bite-me.look.ca> wrote:

>
>"Chadwick" <chadwick110@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1111060770.568161.143040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>> But their "overuse" over the past 200 years or so has affected the
>> "balance of nature" and the global climate, so we should be trying to
>> slow this down while we work out some other way of manufacturing that
>> is less dmagaing to the environment.
>
>According to an article in a recent issue of Scientific American (last
>month, I think) we started throwing off the balance of nature about 8000
>years ago when agriculture started to become mainstream. We may even have
>delayed an iceage because of that.

Nothing wrong with delaying an iceage, they tend to really screw
things up.

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"foamy" <bombelly@wahs.ac> wrote in message
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> In article <A58_d.9136$Ux.5736@tornado.texas.rr.com
> >, "OldDog" <OldDog@city.pound> wrote:
>
> >1. I could toss my cans/paper in the trash, but believe that recycling
is
> >a better means than the dump.
> >2. Water here in Texas isn't cheap.
> >3. IMO I am acting responsible.
>
> Well what I responded to made no mention of the cost of water,
> or recycling. I don't disagree with the above. What I did disagree
> with was the notion that not driving, conserving oil, was something
> we should embrace. That's playing right into the hands of the pricks
> who have us by the throat, and is meaningless to our survival in the
> long run.
>

My original post covered taking a submarine shower and recycling cans/paper.
You asked why I thought this. Therefore, my reply. But I see now where
you went more into the 'oil' use. My misteak. 😉

As to not driving, there's two reasons. One is to cut down on pollution.
Second is to cut down on my cost of the gas/oil. Ok, there's 3 reasons. I
really don't like driving anymore. People like to tailgate, go 20mph over
the speed limit, cut you off, not use a blinker..... No wonder I like
Steam so much.

I'm not sure I understand you statement above. First, who has us by the
throat? The oil companies? If so, how do you mean this?

 

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The ego of man makes him think he is powerful enough to do anything,
for good or evil... The weather is unfolding as it should and were are
not to blame and can't change it...

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:55:01 -0500, "Bill" <wlambrukos@comcast.net>
wrote:

>>>I don't know about global warming. It seems to me that it may be
>happening, but it might not. The ozone layer may naturally work like
>this, we just don't know. In 10 more years we will have enough data to
>know for sure, but until then I think it is just a pretty good educated
>guess.<<
>
>Had to chuckle at that. You are so right. The problem is, we simply don't
>know. Heck, I remember in the early 70's we were being told with certainty
>there was a new ice age coming! People forget earth's temperature was lower
>than "normal" from 1940 to 1970 (or thereabouts). Fact is, the climate has
>changed before, and will change again. We are only debating if we are
>influencing it.
> 8^)
>



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"Graham Thurlwell" <NOSPAM@jades.org> wrote in message
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> On the 15 Mar 2005, "OldDog" <OldDog@city.pound> wrote:
<snip>

> > Speaking of dead people, I've already told my daughter that when I pass
> > away, that I want to be cremated and for my asses to be fushed down the
> > toilet.
>
> I think you meant to type 'ashes' rather than 'asses'! ;-)
>

Doh! I hate when my brain thinks one thing, and my paws type another
thing. Curse these paws of mine!

 

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In article <ncv_d.17552$8D.8646@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
"OldDog" <OldDog@city.pound> wrote:

>> > Speaking of dead people, I've already told my daughter that when I pass
>> > away, that I want to be cremated and for my asses to be fushed down the
>> > toilet.
>>
>> I think you meant to type 'ashes' rather than 'asses'! ;-)
>>
>
>Doh! I hate when my brain thinks one thing, and my paws type another
>thing. Curse these paws of mine!


I thought for a moment you were so egocentric that when you died, you
wanted your daughter to kill your asses and flush them down the toilet.
They have a right to life too, eh ? What else, BBQ your cat ?

Jim

 

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"James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> OldDog wrote:
<snip>
>
> Welcome to the land of plenty. It is the same in New Mexico. People
> drive the huge SUVs, dually, and other non-sense. The funniest thing
> I've seen is a lowered dually (sp?) that had what looked like 6" tires
> on it...What is the point of that?

James, which part of NM are you in?

Last time I was there was back in '77 on a cross country trip in a car. I
think it was the NW part that we went thru while heading towards the Grand
Canyon. Beautiful scenery. We stopped and looked out onto the landscape
from ontop a tall hill.

My wife and daughter want to take a vacation this summer, and I'm thinking
that maybe a trip thru western Texas into New Mexico would be interesting.

ps I know it's a waste of fossil fuel, but my wife and daughter are bugging
me about letting them out of the house. Last time they were out of the
house was 2001.

 

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OldDog wrote:
> "James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
>>OldDog wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>Welcome to the land of plenty. It is the same in New Mexico. People
>>drive the huge SUVs, dually, and other non-sense. The funniest thing
>>I've seen is a lowered dually (sp?) that had what looked like 6" tires
>>on it...What is the point of that?
>
>
> James, which part of NM are you in?

I'm in Albuquerque. I like it here, but sometimes the people really
drive me nuts! The mountains (the Sandia...Watermelon in English) are
quite pretty and the tram to the top is a blast.

> Last time I was there was back in '77 on a cross country trip in a car. I
> think it was the NW part that we went thru while heading towards the Grand
> Canyon. Beautiful scenery. We stopped and looked out onto the landscape
> from ontop a tall hill.

You were probably on I-40 heading west?

> My wife and daughter want to take a vacation this summer, and I'm thinking
> that maybe a trip thru western Texas into New Mexico would be interesting.

I'd do it. Some pretty cool places. Drop me an email if you want some
cool road trips.

> ps I know it's a waste of fossil fuel, but my wife and daughter are bugging
> me about letting them out of the house. Last time they were out of the
> house was 2001.

It is better to leave them chained up ;-)

 

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"James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> OldDog wrote:
> > "James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:xvqdnd9M64M2kqbfRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> >
> >>OldDog wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>Welcome to the land of plenty. It is the same in New Mexico. People
> >>drive the huge SUVs, dually, and other non-sense. The funniest thing
> >>I've seen is a lowered dually (sp?) that had what looked like 6" tires
> >>on it...What is the point of that?
> >
> >
> > James, which part of NM are you in?
>
> I'm in Albuquerque. I like it here, but sometimes the people really
> drive me nuts! The mountains (the Sandia...Watermelon in English) are
> quite pretty and the tram to the top is a blast.
>

Back when we were in MD, we spent the last 8 years looking at different
areas to relocate to. We went to Florida, NC, Arizona, .... and I even
looked up places over all the US. We mainly wanted the south to get away
from the cold. Now I don't mind the snow, cause I luv to play in it even
at 48. But I hate the cold and rain.

Albuquerque was actually on our list. It's just that we took a trip out
here to Texas back in 2003, it was late Aug, it was a 103degs, and we loved
it.

> > Last time I was there was back in '77 on a cross country trip in a car.
I
> > think it was the NW part that we went thru while heading towards the
Grand
> > Canyon. Beautiful scenery. We stopped and looked out onto the
landscape
> > from ontop a tall hill.
>
> You were probably on I-40 heading west?
>

No. My friend and I drove from Charleston SC to Missiouri and then to
Colordao. It was I-70 west thru Colordao. But then we went south thru
Utah (191?). I just checked the map and it must have been the NW corner of
the map that we took a detour so we could hit NM, and then onto Arizona to
visit the Grand Canyon. It's been so long ago, but I'm guessing it was
around the Farmington area.

> > My wife and daughter want to take a vacation this summer, and I'm
thinking
> > that maybe a trip thru western Texas into New Mexico would be
interesting.
>
> I'd do it. Some pretty cool places. Drop me an email if you want some
> cool road trips.
>

I'd give you my email, but there's too many wackos in here. 🙁 except
for you and me. 😉

> > ps I know it's a waste of fossil fuel, but my wife and daughter are
bugging
> > me about letting them out of the house. Last time they were out of the
> > house was 2001.
>
> It is better to leave them chained up ;-)

I keep telling them that, but then they start whining about sunshine and
fresh air. 😉

 

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"Johnny Bravo" <baawa_knight@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Nothing wrong with delaying an iceage, they tend to really screw
> things up.

Absolutely right... At least until its big brother comes along to seek
revenge...