Valve Confirms Games, Steam for Macs in April

[touchdowntexas13]

[citation][nom]sceen311[/nom]How would the laptops 9600m run these games? or the upcoming Starcraft 2 or diablo 3? speculations?[/citation]

I've got a laptop with the 9600M GT, but it's Gddr2. It runs a lot of the source-engine games well (at 1680x1050), but the source-engine games are kinda light on hardware...

Wouldn't know anything about starcraft 2 or diablo 3 though

 

[random_yggdrasil]

Oh I am Loving this =]

 

[applocalypse]

It's funny to read all the "Gamers" talk about systems being outdated etc. But the truth of the matter is the vast majority of PC Gamers play WoW, the Sims, Farmville, Flash games and MSN titles. The number of PC users that play MW2 and Bad Company 2 type games that need really good graphics and CPU's is rather small in comparison.

Being the owner of a SLi system for myself and one for my teenage son we are the only two out of a group of 30+ friends and family PC users that even have high end GPU's at all. Almost all the rest have integrated graphics be it Intel, Nvidia or ATI and two have 8400gs cards.

And at least 10 people we know play MW, COD:WOW or MW2 on those systems.

 

[thegamerfour]

While I'm waiting for HL2 ep.3 or HL3, this is what Valve has been doing - porting their games to Mac?

 

[nicklasd87]

Oh goody, I can play Counterstrike Source on a Mac! Hope the hardware can handle it...They getting Bad Company 2 anytime soon? I can't stop playing that now, except to harass people on Toms Forums...hopefully by the time its available on the mac people are still playing it

 

[Trueno07]

[citation][nom]tayb[/nom]This is great news for Apple fans but what are they going to play the games on? The iMac maxes out with the 4850 and the cheapest model with the 4850 costs $1850. If you want anything faster than a 4850 you'll have to purchase a Mac Pro with a 4870 which will run you $2700.In the end this is going to be moot if Apple doesn't get rolling with some serious GPU updates. There aren't going to be any gamers buying Apple with that lineup. Not a single legitimate gaming machine to be had.[/citation]

I totally agree.

Mac may have the fan base, but they don't have the tech (in their computers).

 

[anamaniac]

[citation][nom]tayb[/nom]This is great news for Apple fans but what are they going to play the games on? The iMac maxes out with the 4850 and the cheapest model with the 4850 costs $1850. If you want anything faster than a 4850 you'll have to purchase a Mac Pro with a 4870 which will run you $2700.In the end this is going to be moot if Apple doesn't get rolling with some serious GPU updates. There aren't going to be any gamers buying Apple with that lineup. Not a single legitimate gaming machine to be had.[/citation]
that's a 4850m in the iMac, and a 4870 512MB in the tower.
Sad, very sad. =(
[citation][nom]applocalypse[/nom]It's funny to read all the "Gamers" talk about systems being outdated etc. But the truth of the matter is the vast majority of PC Gamers play WoW, the Sims, Farmville, Flash games and MSN titles. The number of PC users that play MW2 and Bad Company 2 type games that need really good graphics and CPU's is rather small in comparison. Being the owner of a SLi system for myself and one for my teenage son we are the only two out of a group of 30+ friends and family PC users that even have high end GPU's at all. Almost all the rest have integrated graphics be it Intel, Nvidia or ATI and two have 8400gs cards. And at least 10 people we know play MW, COD:WOW or MW2 on those systems.[/citation]
I wish Farmville would die. >=(
I also wish you were lying...

 

[ultameca]

Im a mac owner & I game... well actually I converted my windows machine to run mac os x 10.6 (OSX86) which was easy on i7, and I use the 4870 which is great but as for performance I think you people need to start looking at the way games are made now. Im not seeing many games challenge my system...

stagecraft 2 is already old tech... I upgraded my 8800gt. but I probably didn't have to, most games i've played worked well with the 8800GT.

until games start coming out with better quality we don't need anything above 4870.
I tried the new supreme commander 2 demo and was disappointed in how well it ran.. why?

I really do want games to come out with better graphics and that's why, but im not going to shell out loads of money on a card that I only need to play two games... 3 after crisis 2 comes out.. that is if they don't cheap out on it.

I was unimpressed with the graphics for supreme commander 2 so far, it doesn't look like there will be as many units and they already said in an interview maps will be smaller. It would have been nice if they had fixed the old one, instead of selling a broken product.

 

[jimmysmitty]

[citation][nom]creature2099[/nom]So Valve would choose to spend their resources on the Mac over the PlayStation 3. They must truly despise working on the PlayStation 3.[/citation]

No its just easier to convert Source to OpenGL than to Cell. Considering that Source is just a highly modified version of GoldSRC which was based on the Quake engine which had naitive OpenGL support, I doubt it would take too much to convert it.

But the PS3 runs Cell. The great Cell. The same Cell that causes the 360 to get more games faster and as well more DLC. The same Cell that causes loss of high end exclusive titles.

Cell was a mistake. Its too hard to code for. Sony failed and thats why the PS3 does not get the attention they want it too.

And as much as a anti-Apple person I am, I can understand them going that route since a lot of newer Mac owners are younger and like to game via WINE or Windows emulation. It will be a growing market to tap into.

 

[zak_mckraken]

Hmmm the iGame™?
©Zak McKraken 2010

Come on Apple... use it! *grin*

 

[Trueno07]

The biggest problem is the amount of money Apple is charging for computers with sub-par graphics cards. a 2000$ computer with a 100 dollar graphics card? Really? What if they started putting in 5770's, apple could be good to go for a few more years. That could mean that Valve would have room to update it's source engine, and move forward.

I'm happy for the Mac fan base, but i just feel like their computers have so much more potential! (Imagine if YOU had 2,700$ to build a gaming computer. Would you just put 1 4870 in it?)

 

[Guest]

applocalypse...are you kidding me it's more like the opposite what city are you in man? Either I know a lot of gamers with high end systems or you don't know many people with high end system. My own rig is i5-750 w/ XFX ATI 5850...I'm a married man with a kid and I know all my buddies plus all the people who I play WoW, Battlefield Bad Company 2 and etc have systems minimum a 9800GTX and they're waiting for the GTX 480. Lets see I was in 3 top end WoW guilds that's like 100+ ppl there plus my FPS crew another 50+ and all my family members...another 25+. Dude I can name like easily 175+ ppl with a 2-3 year old machine (9800GTX machines). I can only think of maybe a dozen ppl with machine under a 9800 GTX. I think it's the area you live in that makes the difference...

 

[HVDynamo]

I use both platforms, I take my Laptop (Macbook Pro) to LAN parties and such to play TF2, but I have to have windows installed to run the games. When I am at home I use my Gaming PC, but having a native OS X version of TF2 I can run on my laptop would be great. I just hope I wouldn't have to pay for a Mac version of the game too.

 

[rantoc]

Well publish one generation old games again is a smart deal really, considering the Mac's usually are one generation after hardware wise (while full price compared to the latest in PC). Great deal for everyone but the less enlightened customers =)

 

[Guest]

+1 for Linux support.