VIDEO: HP's Windows 7 Slate Gets Reviewed

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]dogman_1234[/nom]This is what I hope:1) HP decides to integrated SSD to the system.2) The Win7 platform will be cleaned up and made much easier to use and start.3) The screen is easy to clean,( I hate the look of smudges from fingers).4) HP will sell it cheaper than their Apple counterpart.5) There will be a sol kit and a Full kit to each system.6) The battery is most powerful and can last for HOURS w/o charging up.7) To see different storage measurements: 32,50,64,90,128 GB. Hek a 1TB would be awesome.8) HP doesn't screw things up![/citation]
Add to that
9) non-3G/wifi-only version so I can use a cheaper Mifi
10) removable/replacable/upgradable battery
11) removable/replacable/upgradable RAM
12) removable/replacable/upgradable HDD/SSD

 

[dante01010]

Windows 7 touchscreen support is totally crap

 

[damianrobertjones]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]3Only complaint is the size of the on-screen keyboard, they could have a more compact version [/citation]


You can re-size the keyboard. WIth the mouse, or finger

 

[damianrobertjones]

[citation][nom]dante01010[/nom]Windows 7 touchscreen support is totally crap[/citation]

WHat do you base your comments on, this video? Baa haa haa!

Something tells me that the only Tablet you've EVER used us the iPad.

 

[mauskau]

Keep in mind that this is at best a beta sample.

Where this could excel that the iPad fails is in the workplace. Sure, the iPad is a great little lounge around the house tablet and is pretty user friendly, but you can't do a lot of the things that you need to do in the typical office. For that, a device like this could be great. As someone who has had to use Symbol / Motorola MC 50 / 55 handheld mobile computers for years, I have to say that the idea of a Windows 7 tablet sounds like a Godsend!

That being said, if they actually were to tighten up the controls for the touchscreen then I would probably pick one of these up for the home as well. The only reason I haven't picked up an iPad is because of no flash support. It would be a nice little doodad to play with while watching TV.

 

[skine]

There seem to be a lot of naysayers. To address their issues:

-Hardware

Of course it's hardware is a little underpowered. That's how it gets to be that tiny. If you want better hardware, buy something bigger. There are many options available to you. Yes, an SSD, more storage space and a faster processor would be nice, but the ones included are reasonable for the form factor.

-Windows 7 won't work right

Of course it will. Tablet features are included with the operating system, and there have been dozens of tablets sold with Windows 7 included. The only difference is that this is smaller than most. Windows 7 was indeed designed to function as a tablet OS.

-Slow boot-up

Of course it's not an unreasonable boot time. I ask you now to turn off your computer (if running Windows 7), and time how long it takes to boot to the desktop. Now compare to this time to the time it takes a device just bigger than a DVD case to boot. For being off to start, this is a perfectly reasonable boot time. Note that this is not restoring from sleep mode, but booting up the computer.

-It's slow

Of course it is. See "Hardware" section.

-No USB

Of course there's USB. Try watching the video before you make a fool out of yourself next time.

-I don't understand tablets

Of course you don't. Those kids weren't even on your lawn.

-I don't like Windows 7

Of course you don't, you Linux fanboy/Apple fanboi. Some people like it. Some people just prefer to use it to other OSes. The fact is most computers run Windows in some form. Also, the only thing more intuitive for a Windows user than an iPad is another computer running Windows.

 

[pharge]

[citation][nom]damianrobertjones[/nom] Fit an SSD. Mechanical drives are SLOW. Without much difficulty, my Acer 1820ptz booted to the desktop in 15 seconds. Is that fast enough for you? I prefer to have complete control of what I want to do. Does Windows 7 offer you that? Yes.One more thing, how many of you commenting here have actually 'used' a Windows 7 tablet of some form? [/citation]

While I do agree on some of your points, but as a tablet user for more than 6 years and recentely just upgraded to HP tm2t (i5 6G ram and ATI GPU)... as a tablet, win7 has done a better job than winxp tablet edit. But the touch control is still very slushing and unresponsive. I wont say it is unuseable... but it definitely have a great room to improve.
More importantly, this is already happening on an i5 system, I don't know what kind of performance we will have on HP slate.. what do they on the slate? ATOM?...

Anyway, on a full touchscreen laptop w/ higher end spec, the benefit of win7 is out run the short coming. However, for a touchscreen netbook (that is basically what the Slate is), the benefit of win7 is just not worth... for a touchscreen netbook an Android/WebOS/iOS or even Win Phone 7 will be much better.

I can understand peopl want to do eveything they want on their laptop/desktop.... but on a netbook?.... hmm...

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]pharge[/nom]I can understand peopl want to do eveything they want on their laptop/desktop.... but on a netbook?.... hmm...[/citation]
Of course people want more.
Where did this idea come from all of a sudden that we want a device to do less, to not have connectivity, not to print, not to have expandable memory, not to be able to run flash?

People say, "that's not what tablets are for!", not having a clue what they are talking about. It may not be what you use your tablet for but that's not what I want my tablet for.

Here's a hot tip for you, if you don't want to be able to view flash, then don't install it.
If you don't want to be able to print, then don't install a driver.
If you don't want expandable memory or USB flash drives, don't put them in the sockets.

But don't try to enforce the removal of features to the detriment of the whole user base. It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

 

[pharge]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Of course people want more.Where did this idea come from all of a sudden that we want a device to do less, to not have connectivity, not to print, not to have expandable memory, not to be able to run flash?People say, "that's not what tablets are for!", not having a clue what they are talking about. It may not be what you use your tablet for but that's not what I want my tablet for.Here's a hot tip for you, if you don't want to be able to view flash, then don't install it.If you don't want to be able to print, then don't install a driver.If you don't want expandable memory or USB flash drives, don't put them in the sockets.But don't try to enforce the removal of features to the detriment of the whole user base. It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.[/citation]

yea... I guess now I can understand that why the netbook just get heavier and heavier, bigger and bigger screen... and change from driveless to DVD burner...

I believe there is no right or wrong on this.. just different need on the gadget we have. Some people like to have it fast and smooth.. some people want to have everything.. and some people just want to use it and no interest in learning the tech behind it...

But too be honet.. if people want to have everything on their laptop while having touchscreen function, there are already many touchscreen laptop and tablet (not the underpowered slate) for about $1000-1500. They will definitely serve the purpose better.

And beside Win7... android also support flash if that is your concerns... printing wise... both Android and iOs have something for it. USB storage... I believe Android or maybe iOs also have the solution (or on the way)...

Regarding to the system memory.. I am not award that we can add any system memory into HP slate or Dell Streak.... even if is with win7 installed..

Just my 2c

 

[mauskau]

This morning I tried booting up my iPhone a few times. Consistently was around 24-25 seconds to boot from the press of power to the slid to unlock screen. I imagine that the iPad is maybe a little faster, but still similar times. Based on that, 30 seconds for a full feature OS on this slate doesn't seem too bad at all.

 

[husker]

Um... where did this high school kid get a prototype to review?

 

[dthx]

With the right software and a SSD, even a Windows XP system works on a tablet. Of course, it will not be as "snappy" as an iPad whose current applications are specifically designed for tablets. But when a Windows developper has tablet usage on his mind when he designs his GUI, no doubt his application can be user in a user friendly fashion without a keyboard and mouse. Many people praising the iPad and criticizing those "different" tablets probably never tested a tablet PC or only tested it with the Office suite or other programs they use on their desktops. Of course, they are not a decent laptop/desktop replacement in this case but neither is the iPad.
Aviation enthusiasts already enjoy WinXP tablets for years in aircrafts to run software like Flite Deck (JeppView) or the recent SkyDemon and, after a small learning curve, it works flawless. It's clear that current Windows tablet still can't compete with an iPad in terms of battery life or responsiveness. But there's more to life than the iPad. A desktop OS with some tablet tweaks offers so much more capabilities for many well selected missions, especially since the hardware becomes more powerfull and Windows 7 improved the things over previous Windows XP tablets.

 

[cyberDJ]

FAIL:
The video has been pulled from YouTube.

But yes, I'd buy one. The iPad is OK but not great.
I need a real tablet; like the ones that existed BEFORE the iPad.

 

[thearm]

I'd buy one of these for sure. I've been waiting for an iPad alternative that I can run what I want on. I do want to thank Apple for paving the way for better products though.