Was wondering which CPU you guys is best to go with

[sebastian869]

Basically was wondering what INTEL product to go with? is i7 the way or i5OC? and as far as chipset is the x79 the best or should i wait for something better to come out?
Lastly, does socket type affect speed? is LGA 2011 better then LGA 1155?


I've narrowed it down to these 4:
Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 Quad-Core
Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core
Intel Core i7-3770S 3.1GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core

i dont know if all things are equal if sandy bridge-E or ivy bridge is better and I noticed that for .2GH the form factor goes to 32nm and im guessing that means its gonna be less over clockable and its running at 130W so I'm guessing the best is the i7-3770K (plus its been a while since I started looking, like 2-3 months easy. Should I wait for a newer batch to come out?)

Be greatful for any insight or ideas.

P.S. someone recommended: i7-3770K (LGA 1155) w/ a Z77 board. and another i5-3570K Ivy Bridge is one of the 2 the best option?

Thanks,
Sebastian

 

[rds1220]

Basically was wondering what INTEL product to go with? is i7 the way or i5OC? and as far as chipset is the x79 the best or should i wait for something better to come out?
Lastly, does socket type affect speed? is LGA 2011 better then LGA 1155?


I've narrowed it down to these 4:
Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 Quad-Core
Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core
Intel Core i7-3770S 3.1GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core

i dont know if all things are equal if sandy bridge-E or ivy bridge is better and I noticed that for .2GH the form factor goes to 32nm and im guessing that means its gonna be less over clockable and its running at 130W so I'm guessing the best is the i7-3770K (plus its been a while since I started looking, like 2-3 months easy. Should I wait for a newer batch to come out?)

Be greatful for any insight or ideas.

P.S. someone recommended: i7-3770K (LGA 1155) w/ a Z77 board. and another i5-3570K Ivy Bridge is one of the 2 the best option?

Thanks,
Sebastian

What are you going to be doing with this computer?

 

[twelve25]

I also wanted to ask that.

Just to explain the main differences, the i7-3770's are all the same chip with slightly different tweaks. The plain 3770 is a standard CPU. The 3770K is unlocked and overclockable (with a .1Ghz boost already built in). The 3770S is a underclocked version made for lower power consumption and used in systems that may not have adequate ventilation for the regular 3770 (like slim cases).

The i7-3820 is essentially a Sandy Bridge i7 (think 2600k) made for the 2011 socket.

 

[rabidraccoon]

As far as the min feature space goes, the 32 nm will run a little cooler than the 22 nm simply because the heat sources are less concentrated with the 32 nm sandy bridge.

 

[rds1220]

If all you are doing is gaming there really is no need to get a I7, you are wasting 100 dollars for extra features (more cache and hyperthreading) that games don't make use of.

 

[sebastian869]

I also wanted to ask that.

Just to explain the main differences, the i7-3770's are all the same chip with slightly different tweaks. The plain 3770 is a standard CPU. The 3770K is unlocked and overclockable (with a .1Ghz boost already built in). The 3770S is a underclocked version made for lower power consumption and used in systems that may not have adequate ventilation for the regular 3770 (like slim cases).

The i7-3820 is essentially a Sandy Bridge i7 (think 2600k) made for the 2011 socket.

Thanks for the run down, makes a LOT of sense and clear to understand the 70 lot.

Thanks,
Sebastian

 

[sebastian869]

Do you guys know if at this point there will be a new models coming out? Since when i started shopping months ago (meaning catching up on tech homework on the hardware the 3770s were around, I dont pay attention to new hardware or tech for the most part, when i go to buy is when i study up).
In other words if you were building a new system would you wait for a new line to come out or just buy now? (and that goes for nvidia GPUS)

Thanks,
Sebastian

 

[sebastian869]

What are you going to be doing with this computer?

Gaming and would like it to handle Battlefield with all settings on max, my current one falls short by a mile even with GTX 285 SLI

 

[rds1220]

Either an I5 or an I7 would handle BF3 with ultra high settings with pretty much no problem at all. The thing you are going to have to change is the video card. The GTX 285 is really old and SLI or not it's going to struggle. I have a GTX 550Ti that even when overclocked struggles with some of the modern games so I don't now how you are using a GTX 285.

 

[sebastian869]

What really surprised me was:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html

"AMD's FX family is in the process of shifting from its Bulldozer architecture to the Piledriver refresh (though Bulldozer-based FX chips are still widely available. The result is a package called Vishera, which succeeds Zambezi. Mmm, alphabet soup. We love it."

Anyone know what the story is why most of the current lot of INTC CPUs have a graphics card(is it the same thing as a GPU? or something more in the way of helping the CPU process video better?

Lastly, the i7-3770 and i5-3570 have been out for a while does it make sense to wait for the new models to come out?

Seems like ppl are either an INTC or AMD person and takes A LOT for them to change lol.

Thanks,
Sebastian

 

[sebastian869]

Either an I5 or an I7 would handle BF3 with ultra high settings with pretty much no problem at all. The thing you are going to have to change is the video card. The GTX 285 is really old and SLI or not it's going to struggle. I have a GTX 550Ti that even when overclocked struggles with some of the modern games so I don't now how you are using a GTX 285.

what GPU would you recommend in the 300 (as I seem to find 300 to generally be the most bang for the buck on the CPU/GPU side though GPU maybe a bit more, seems to be the case each comp I build)?

 

[rds1220]

Is 300 an absolute max. The GTX 660 TI and 7950 are 299 to a little over 300 (like 310-320). If you aren't willing to go 10 to 20 dollars over budget then I would go with a GTX 660 or 7870.

 

[rabidraccoon]

Is 300 an absolute max. The GTX 660 TI and 7950 are 299 to a little over 300 (like 310-320). If you aren't willing to go 10 to 20 dollars over budget then I would go with a GTX 660 or 7870.

Here are some GTX 660 Ti's for slightly under $300:

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SUPERCLOCKED-Graphics-02G-P4-3662-KR/dp/B008S15XA0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353851637&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+660TI

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Overvoltage-N660TI-PE-2GD5/dp/B008SBX6GI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1353851637&sr=8-2&keywords=gtx+660TI

http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-WINDFORCE-PCI-Express-Graphics-GV-N66TOC-2GD/dp/B008UG2W20/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1353851637&sr=8-6&keywords=gtx+660TI

After mail in rebates they come to around $270-$280