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When Firefox started the fast updating trying to catch up the chrome version numbers, it shoot itself in the foot. The latest versions of Firefox is a big disapointment with problems with flash windows and lock ups. I still use it, I am not going to Chrome or anything else but I really really think going back to an older version, one that was introdused in 2010 or 2011 the latest.
Really nice article. I'd like to see Pale Moon in there too through. Maybe a comparison between FF and it's performance build - PM?
I've tried opening a bunch of tabs in Chrome all at once quite recently - 50+ or so. The UI locked up and then Chrome actually crashed. i7 QC. Firefox did it sluggishly, but it worked fine and I could switch the tabs while they loaded (which I couldn't do with Chrome).
1) Opera 12 is a disaster, from a "stable" point. Also, the scores in this benchmark would have sky-highed if Hardware acceleration (though not final yet) would have been enable. And WebGL works, just only under OpenGL. Additionaly, it's a bug-fest all around. Even smooth-scrolling is semi-broken now.
2) Firefox works fine, stars fine, consumes just enough memory...but it always load pages more slowly than IE, Opera and Chrome. It just feels slow, and I can't stand it. Also, props for the Best Adblock.
3) All browser have Hardware acceleration in one way of another. Is there a possibility to have a benchmark with the browsers being accelerated by the GPU in its P0 power state? The scores would be blast.
2) Firefox works fine, stars fine, consumes just enough memory...but it always load pages more slowly than IE, Opera and Chrome. It just feels slow, and I can't stand it. Also, props for the Best Adblock.
3) All browser have Hardware acceleration in one way of another. Is there a possibility to have a benchmark with the browsers being accelerated by the GPU in its P0 power state? The scores would be blast.
I like these articles a lot. I wish I could switch browsers more frequently because I love changing things up occasionally, but I have been stuck on Chrome because no other browser handles a decent adblocker/stays stable 100% of the time (I never have more than 8 or 9 tabs open at once)/renders every single page correctly.
To shake things up, and I know you've already said you're throwing in some mobile browsers in the next grand prix, I'd love to see you test Maxthon. It looks a little cheesy but it seems surprisingly responsive. It would be interesting to see how it stacks up.
To shake things up, and I know you've already said you're throwing in some mobile browsers in the next grand prix, I'd love to see you test Maxthon. It looks a little cheesy but it seems surprisingly responsive. It would be interesting to see how it stacks up.
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My 2 cents:
Chrome is banned as Default browser in my office.
The reason is Chrome is preventing Hybrid Sleep in Windows and often that failure causes all sorts problems when coming out its oddball 'State' not to mention consuming wasted energy. Now if this was just one PC then I'd say there's a problem with the PC, but this problem spans many PC's.
I love Chrome for Forums and we need it to insure compatibility of our products, but I don't need issues and our PC's running 7/24 because of some bug in Chrome.
I hope Google will correct this soon!
Chrome is banned as Default browser in my office.
The reason is Chrome is preventing Hybrid Sleep in Windows and often that failure causes all sorts problems when coming out its oddball 'State' not to mention consuming wasted energy. Now if this was just one PC then I'd say there's a problem with the PC, but this problem spans many PC's.
I love Chrome for Forums and we need it to insure compatibility of our products, but I don't need issues and our PC's running 7/24 because of some bug in Chrome.
I hope Google will correct this soon!
mayankleoboy1
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[citation][nom]GSam[/nom]I've tried opening a bunch of tabs in Chrome all at once quite recently - 50+ or so. The UI locked up and then Chrome actually crashed. i7 QC. Firefox did it sluggishly, but it worked fine and I could switch the tabs while they loaded (which I couldn't do with Chrome).[/citation]
that never happened to me. i opened 700 tabs in one go.
Chrome : opened all. fluid UI at all times. but HUGE RAM use. used 100% of a quad core.
Firefox : opened all. but UI hang till most tabs were mostly loaded. Lesser RAM than chrome. used 25% of quad core.
that never happened to me. i opened 700 tabs in one go.
Chrome : opened all. fluid UI at all times. but HUGE RAM use. used 100% of a quad core.
Firefox : opened all. but UI hang till most tabs were mostly loaded. Lesser RAM than chrome. used 25% of quad core.
Branden
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here's how i see it:
this is obviously a fight between firefox and chrome, the rest are just fighting for 3rd.
firefox's only weak score was CSS, chrome's only weak score reliability.
reliability trumps CSS.
my rating: firefox>chrome>IE>opera>safari. with chrome just a nose behind firefox, and IE a distant 3rd.
this is obviously a fight between firefox and chrome, the rest are just fighting for 3rd.
firefox's only weak score was CSS, chrome's only weak score reliability.
reliability trumps CSS.
my rating: firefox>chrome>IE>opera>safari. with chrome just a nose behind firefox, and IE a distant 3rd.
eddieroolz
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I was surprised that IE9 still managed to pull off a win in a few categories, especially HTML5 related. Quite amazing for a relatively old browser.
eddieroolz
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Also, I definitely place an importance on the responsiveness and memory use of a browser. Sure, I may have 16GB of RAM but most people in this world still operate on less than 2GB. Firefox and other RAM-intensive browsers would absolutely be horrifying to use on those systems.
mitch074
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Personally, what I enjoy most with Firefox is that I have complete control over it - no need to sign my privacy away to use it (Chrome, IE, Safari), stable (Opera), fast (Safari, IE) and with the best tools one can get: simply installing NoScript (and allowing execution on all sites) raises Firefox's mark by several points on the very test used in this comparison, but using it properly simply makes you SAFE.
AdBlock has been mentioned ad nauseam so I won't go into it.
Of course, it'd be better if the Electrolysis work came through, and it'd be nice if Mozilla finally fixed the bug (they know of it) that makes the Maze Solver so slow. If they did, Firefox would be the best browser ever, leagues ahead its competition.
AdBlock has been mentioned ad nauseam so I won't go into it.
Of course, it'd be better if the Electrolysis work came through, and it'd be nice if Mozilla finally fixed the bug (they know of it) that makes the Maze Solver so slow. If they did, Firefox would be the best browser ever, leagues ahead its competition.
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How did Chrome come behind firefox in webgl, i thought they were king. ie 9 shocked me in some tests.
If this test were to be done over, they should use an SSD and 8GB 1600MHz RAM. Plus a nVidia GPU for comparison
If this test were to be done over, they should use an SSD and 8GB 1600MHz RAM. Plus a nVidia GPU for comparison
hay toms,
i use chrome allot, i have probably 100-150 tabs spread out over 4 windows, i never really have more than that, and usualy have less.
now i just did a fresh reset of the browser, total system is currently useing 4gb of ram.
if i close all chrome, it will use 1.3gb of ram
if i leave chrome open, just leave it open, it will bloat to 7-8gb of ram in a few hours.
is there any way to benchmark this?
i use chrome allot, i have probably 100-150 tabs spread out over 4 windows, i never really have more than that, and usualy have less.
now i just did a fresh reset of the browser, total system is currently useing 4gb of ram.
if i close all chrome, it will use 1.3gb of ram
if i leave chrome open, just leave it open, it will bloat to 7-8gb of ram in a few hours.
is there any way to benchmark this?
Why is Maze solver always such an outlier result for Firefox? And why is it weighted so much. Firefox dominates in the CSS stress test slide (fastest by far). Yet it's result in maze solver puts it in the weak category (I'm assuming) of your results tally.
very odd
very odd
[citation][nom]mayankleoboy1[/nom]1.what the benchmarks dont show is that in Firefox , if a tab has a heavy page with a lot of CPU intensive workload, the complete browser UI starts stuttering. That means the browser UI is on the same thread as the page loading.2. in the 40 tab test, try working in a tab during the loading of the 40 tabs. you will find lots of difference between browsers. FF hangs, Opera and Chrome remain fluid. 3. how about a test where a browser is using 1GB+ RAM and you are trying to open/close tabs. Then see the UI responsiveness. most browsers can easily handle 800MB RAM. but which browser easily handles 1.2GB+ RAM ?[/citation]
i load up 100-150 tabs in chrome, my system can be unresponsive for almost a minute if not more,
i load up 700 tabs in firefox, sure fire fox is slow, but at least there is enoug processing power to run an mp3, and im not kidding about that, mp3 studders when i load chrome up after a restart.
waterfox, 64bit firefox variant handles large amounts of ram well, but problem is it uses large amounts of ram.
chrome can handle about 6-6.5 gb of ram, but it gets very unstable and can completely crash, making you lose all active tabs, something firefox hasn't done to me in a very long time.
[citation][nom]Chetou[/nom]This!!! Firefox has some real problems when it gets over 1+ GB RAM usage and real life performance and responsiveness is really lacking. Opera is in a different league. I still prefer Firefox for its unrivaled customization options, but it is a pain to use it heavily, especially on slower machines.[/citation]
firefox 32bit is ok up to 1.25 gb, than it gets choppy,
once it hits 1.5gb it becomes borderline unuseable
once it hits 1.7gb, there is no comeing back, need to reset browser.
waterfox has no problems like this, i can take it over 3.5gb easily and get very minor preformance problems, keep in mine im only on waterfox 10.
[citation][nom]yannigr[/nom]When Firefox started the fast updating trying to catch up the chrome version numbers, it shoot itself in the foot. The latest versions of Firefox is a big disapointment with problems with flash windows and lock ups. I still use it, I am not going to Chrome or anything else but I really really think going back to an older version, one that was introdused in 2010 or 2011 the latest.[/citation]
firefox always failed at flash, its why i use chrome too.
[citation][nom]GSam[/nom]I've tried opening a bunch of tabs in Chrome all at once quite recently - 50+ or so. The UI locked up and then Chrome actually crashed. i7 QC. Firefox did it sluggishly, but it worked fine and I could switch the tabs while they loaded (which I couldn't do with Chrome).[/citation]
already said how many tabs i load up at once, on a phenom II 955 no over clock, and if it matters, 8gb ddr2 and a hd 5770 1gb no overclock
[citation][nom]wheredahoodat[/nom]"If you never open more than five or ten content-heavy websites at the same time, you should never base your browser choice on memory consumption. It simply doesn't matter a lot if your browser consumes 50, 200, or 400 MB of RAM, even on lower-end machines. However, heavy tab multitaskers should steer clear of IE9, Chrome (in all its incarnations), and Opera (Beta). Just go with Firefox. With RAM levels quickly reaching 1 GB with just 15 tabs, you'll encounter sluggishness even on faster machines. Again, it simply doesn't matter if you've got 4, 8, or 16 GB of RAM -- a browser taking up 1 to 1.5 GB of RAM quickly reaches the limits of both the Windows' and its own memory management capabilities. Threads and handles run wild, paging starts kicking in, and overall reliability goes down with responsiveness.Firefox is the clear winner of the bunch. It was the only browser that did not slow things down and I recommended it for both lower-end mobile devices and high-end desktops. "http://www.itworld.com/software/26 [...] g?page=0,2[/citation]
chrome again, for me usualy takes up 6gb of ram, i am a heavy tab user, so i accept that i will use an absolute crap ton of ram. but if you want multimedia anything i would stay away from firefox and use chrome.
firefox for tabs, chrome for multimedia, that seams to work out the best.
i load up 100-150 tabs in chrome, my system can be unresponsive for almost a minute if not more,
i load up 700 tabs in firefox, sure fire fox is slow, but at least there is enoug processing power to run an mp3, and im not kidding about that, mp3 studders when i load chrome up after a restart.
waterfox, 64bit firefox variant handles large amounts of ram well, but problem is it uses large amounts of ram.
chrome can handle about 6-6.5 gb of ram, but it gets very unstable and can completely crash, making you lose all active tabs, something firefox hasn't done to me in a very long time.
[citation][nom]Chetou[/nom]This!!! Firefox has some real problems when it gets over 1+ GB RAM usage and real life performance and responsiveness is really lacking. Opera is in a different league. I still prefer Firefox for its unrivaled customization options, but it is a pain to use it heavily, especially on slower machines.[/citation]
firefox 32bit is ok up to 1.25 gb, than it gets choppy,
once it hits 1.5gb it becomes borderline unuseable
once it hits 1.7gb, there is no comeing back, need to reset browser.
waterfox has no problems like this, i can take it over 3.5gb easily and get very minor preformance problems, keep in mine im only on waterfox 10.
[citation][nom]yannigr[/nom]When Firefox started the fast updating trying to catch up the chrome version numbers, it shoot itself in the foot. The latest versions of Firefox is a big disapointment with problems with flash windows and lock ups. I still use it, I am not going to Chrome or anything else but I really really think going back to an older version, one that was introdused in 2010 or 2011 the latest.[/citation]
firefox always failed at flash, its why i use chrome too.
[citation][nom]GSam[/nom]I've tried opening a bunch of tabs in Chrome all at once quite recently - 50+ or so. The UI locked up and then Chrome actually crashed. i7 QC. Firefox did it sluggishly, but it worked fine and I could switch the tabs while they loaded (which I couldn't do with Chrome).[/citation]
already said how many tabs i load up at once, on a phenom II 955 no over clock, and if it matters, 8gb ddr2 and a hd 5770 1gb no overclock
[citation][nom]wheredahoodat[/nom]"If you never open more than five or ten content-heavy websites at the same time, you should never base your browser choice on memory consumption. It simply doesn't matter a lot if your browser consumes 50, 200, or 400 MB of RAM, even on lower-end machines. However, heavy tab multitaskers should steer clear of IE9, Chrome (in all its incarnations), and Opera (Beta). Just go with Firefox. With RAM levels quickly reaching 1 GB with just 15 tabs, you'll encounter sluggishness even on faster machines. Again, it simply doesn't matter if you've got 4, 8, or 16 GB of RAM -- a browser taking up 1 to 1.5 GB of RAM quickly reaches the limits of both the Windows' and its own memory management capabilities. Threads and handles run wild, paging starts kicking in, and overall reliability goes down with responsiveness.Firefox is the clear winner of the bunch. It was the only browser that did not slow things down and I recommended it for both lower-end mobile devices and high-end desktops. "http://www.itworld.com/software/26 [...] g?page=0,2[/citation]
chrome again, for me usualy takes up 6gb of ram, i am a heavy tab user, so i accept that i will use an absolute crap ton of ram. but if you want multimedia anything i would stay away from firefox and use chrome.
firefox for tabs, chrome for multimedia, that seams to work out the best.
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Since I never use over 30tabs, I have to say I love FF for my daily browser on Win7 ever since coming from WinXP. On XP Chrome felt way better but the memory management of Win7 favors FF on my system. I have very few problems with FF but I will get a few crashes with Chrome especially with Flash content and sometimes it manages to hang the entire computer where as FF will become completely unresponsive but the rest of the system continues to function well. The only problem I have with all versions of FF is that if I close it and reopen right away Windows says there is an instance already running. After 30-60 sec it is fine. I have never had that problem with any version of Chrome.
[citation][nom]lethalsam[/nom]I know its Not Google's fault, its just that ABP developers are putting more effort with Firefox.So for me, Firefox > Chrome.[/citation]
Actually, it is Google's fault. Google restricts what addons can do in Chrome, which prevents ABP from being nearly as effective as it could be. My guess is they don't want users of their browser cutting off Google's #1 source of revenue (ads).
Actually, it is Google's fault. Google restricts what addons can do in Chrome, which prevents ABP from being nearly as effective as it could be. My guess is they don't want users of their browser cutting off Google's #1 source of revenue (ads).
[citation][nom]jerm1027[/nom]I'm not sure how Silverlight takes importance over WebGL or HTML5 in this test. >~[/citation]
What non-MS website uses Silverlight. I uninstalled it like last year and there was never a prompt for a SL installation.
What non-MS website uses Silverlight. I uninstalled it like last year and there was never a prompt for a SL installation.
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