[WFB] Brettonnian 1000p

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Hi..
Thanks for all help earlier. I've finished my Brettonian 1000p army
and would like to get pointers. Here it goes...

General 125
Paladin 60
Horse 14
Lance 4
Shield 2
Virtue of Stoicism 35
Sword of Biting 10

Battle Standard Bearer 145
Paladin 60
Horse 14
Grail Vow 21
Virtue of Duty 30
Cuirass of Fortune 20

Damsel 115
Damsel 70
Level 2 35
Horse 10

Grail Knights 174
3 Grail Knights 192
Musician 10
Standard Bearer 20
Banner of Defence 30

Knights of the Realm 241
8 Knights 192
Standard Bearer 14
Musician 10
War Banner 25

Peasant Bowmen 75
10 Bowmen 60
Villein 5
Skirmish 10

Peasant Bowmen 75
10 Bowmen 60
Villein 5
Skirmish 10

Men-at-arms 50
10 Men-at-arms 50

Total 1000p

The general is fielded with the KoR and the Battle Standard Bearer and
the damsel with the Grail knights. Both units then have magic attack
capability, +1 standing combat resolution bonus and re-roll failed break
tests.

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Mattias Aldaron wrote:
> Hi..
> Thanks for all help earlier. I've finished my Brettonian 1000p army and
> would like to get pointers. Here it goes...
>
> General 125
> Paladin 60
> Horse 14
> Lance 4
> Shield 2
> Virtue of Stoicism 35
> Sword of Biting 10
>
> Battle Standard Bearer 145
> Paladin 60
> Horse 14
> Grail Vow 21
> Virtue of Duty 30
> Cuirass of Fortune 20

I have noticed that having the grail vow can sometimes be problematic,
as you can't flee with it, and the questing vow is so much cheaper. with
ld 8 and a reroll for psychology, about the only real benefit from the
grail wov is that grail knights won't flee if defeated and outnumbered
by fear-causing opponents.

>
> Damsel 115
> Damsel 70
> Level 2 35
> Horse 10

A dispel scroll should be handy.

>
> Grail Knights 174
> 3 Grail Knights 192
> Musician 10
> Standard Bearer 20
> Banner of Defence 30
>
I think that grail knights are too expensive to be fielded in such a
small army, questing knights with their greatweapons tend to be better,
maybe just use lances with 5 knights and a character in each. Also you
should drop the banner from the unit which is going to get the BSB whit
such a low point army.

> Knights of the Realm 241
> 8 Knights 192
> Standard Bearer 14
> Musician 10
> War Banner 25
>
> Peasant Bowmen 75
> 10 Bowmen 60
> Villein 5
> Skirmish 10
>
> Peasant Bowmen 75
> 10 Bowmen 60
> Villein 5
> Skirmish 10

You can only have one unit of skirmishing archers per army.

> Men-at-arms 50
> 10 Men-at-arms 50

What are you going to do with a such undermanned unit? About the only
reason that I field peasants in my bret army is that I don't have to
deploy my knights too early =)


> Total 1000p
>
> The general is fielded with the KoR and the Battle Standard Bearer and
> the damsel with the Grail knights. Both units then have magic attack
> capability, +1 standing combat resolution bonus and re-roll failed break
> tests.
>
 
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On 2/9/05 12:23 PM, in article cudguo$24q$1@epityr.hut.fi, "Vesa-Pekka
Palmu" <spammed@mailinator.com> wrote:

>
> I have noticed that having the grail vow can sometimes be problematic,
> as you can't flee with it,

I don't understand your point. A character with the Grail vow will flee if
he loses the combat and fails the leadership roll. Fleeing on purpose is
*so* not a Bretonnian option - the unit will lose the blessing.

>>
> I think that grail knights are too expensive to be fielded in such a
> small army,
>
I tend to agree with this, you can get more Realm Knights. You will end up
outnumbered enough without going for Grail Knights in an army under 2000 pts
>
>> 10 Men-at-arms 50
>
I find men-at-arms to be totally useless for anything but holding a table
quarter or defending an obstacle.

Except for the two skirmished units (you can only upgrade one to
skirmishers), the army list looks like fun to play. Those two knight units
should stick in battle for a while.

janet
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Vesa-Pekka Palmu wrote:
> You can only have one unit of skirmishing archers per army.

I cant? Ok, missed this one... Do you have a rule reference?

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"Mattias Aldaron" <morphriz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Men-at-arms 50
> 10 Men-at-arms 50

Spend these points else where... maybe another unit of archers?
 
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Mattias Aldaron wrote:
> Vesa-Pekka Palmu wrote:
>
>> You can only have one unit of skirmishing archers per army.
>
>
> I cant? Ok, missed this one... Do you have a rule reference?
>
page 69 "_ONE_ unit may replace it's defensive stakes for the ability to
skirmish for +1 pt per model"
 
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Janet Quick wrote:
> On 2/9/05 12:23 PM, in article cudguo$24q$1@epityr.hut.fi, "Vesa-Pekka
> Palmu" <spammed@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I have noticed that having the grail vow can sometimes be problematic,
>>as you can't flee with it,
>
>
> I don't understand your point. A character with the Grail vow will flee if
> he loses the combat and fails the leadership roll. Fleeing on purpose is
> *so* not a Bretonnian option - the unit will lose the blessing.

Weel, losing the blessing is a minor setback compared to losing the
character...
 
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On 2/10/05 6:03 AM, in article cuff2d$qcd$2@epityr.hut.fi, "Vesa-Pekka
Palmu" <spammed@mailinator.com> wrote:

> Janet Quick wrote:
>> On 2/9/05 12:23 PM, in article cudguo$24q$1@epityr.hut.fi, "Vesa-Pekka
>> Palmu" <spammed@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have noticed that having the grail vow can sometimes be problematic,
>>> as you can't flee with it,
>>
>>
>> I don't understand your point. A character with the Grail vow will flee if
>> he loses the combat and fails the leadership roll. Fleeing on purpose is
>> *so* not a Bretonnian option - the unit will lose the blessing.
>
> Weel, losing the blessing is a minor setback compared to losing the
> character...


<gasp> turn in your grail emblems and go stand with those peasants near the
relique <shaking head and mumbling something about the soul of a wood elf>


The Lady General Jalaine
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Vesa-Pekka Palmu wrote:
> Mattias Aldaron wrote:
>
>> Vesa-Pekka Palmu wrote:
>>
>>> You can only have one unit of skirmishing archers per army.
>>
>>
>>
>> I cant? Ok, missed this one... Do you have a rule reference?
>>
> page 69 "_ONE_ unit may replace it's defensive stakes for the ability to
> skirmish for +1 pt per model"

Ahh.. It was a Brettonian rule... *sob* I liked my archers....
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Janet Quick wrote:
> On 2/10/05 6:03 AM, in article cuff2d$qcd$2@epityr.hut.fi, "Vesa-Pekka
> Palmu" <spammed@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>Weel, losing the blessing is a minor setback compared to losing the
>>character...
>
>
> <gasp> turn in your grail emblems and go stand with those peasants near the
> relique <shaking head and mumbling something about the soul of a wood elf>
>

I'm sorry, but the peasants just got run down by a weaponless slaverat 😉