What do I need to upgrade?

[lethalshark]

I have a computer that I built myself a year ago but it doesn't run some games like I want it to. DayZ standalone runs at about 19-27 frames (I know it's not optimized well but still) a somewhat heavily modded skyrim runs at 20-30 fps. Assassins Creed Black Flag runs at 30-40 on max settings. My specs are as shown from System Requirements Lab:

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Processor AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor
Manufacturer AMD
Speed 3.5 GHz
Number of Cores 8
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
Manufacturer NVIDIA
Chipset GeForce GTX 760
Dedicated Memory 2.0 GB
Total Memory 3.9 GB
Memory 8.1 GB
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 7601), 64-bit
Service Pack 1
Size 64 Bit
Edition Home Premium
Display Maximum Resolution 1920 x 1080
DVD ASUS DRW-24B1ST i ATA Device
CD ASUS DRW-24B1ST i ATA Device
Drive 1
Size 2.0 TB
Free 1.9 TB
Drive 2
Size 111.7 GB
Free 67.8 GB

I really would like to play the next gen games like GTA V on max setting like I had hoped but I doubt that with whatever is holding me back I will be able to accomplish it.
I Would Like To Know What Needs To Be Upgraded, GPU, CPU, etc.

 

[rockie_]

You aren't doing the math right. You don't divide. 60 is 40 less than 100. therefore the 970 is 40% more than the 760, or 40% better. Sorry. Your math is not correct.

i am correct . i am a mathematician . i won several prizes in maths and i have a master s degrre of Finince .

Welp, you are wrong here. Sorry.

i am Absolutely correct ! 100%

 

[lethalshark]

That is a very good PSU, but not enough for SLI.

By now I have somewhat dismissed the idea of SLI as it seems more costly time and money wise.
My questions now are: Will this PSU be able to handle the GTX 970? Is the single GTX 970 better than the SLI 760s?

 

[tiny voices]

No sorry. You are not. Lets put it like this:

the 760 is 60% of the 970. This is what the chart says. A non-disputable fact.

What is 100-60? 40. So the 970 is 40% better than the 760.

I can't explain it any simpler. Sorry.

 

[tiny voices]

That is a very good PSU, but not enough for SLI.

By now I have somewhat dismissed the idea of SLI as it seems more costly time and money wise.
My questions now are: Will this PSU be able to handle the GTX 970? Is the single GTX 970 better than the SLI 760s?

Yes your PSU is fine. No, a 970 is only better in some places. It is a very good card and better than 760SLI is poorly optimized games. But in games with good SLI profiles, the 760SLI will be better by almost 20%.

 

[rockie_]

No sorry. You are not. Lets put it like this:

the 760 is 60% of the 970. This is what the chart says. A non-disputable fact.

What is 100-60? 40. So the 970 is 40% better than the 760.

I can't explain it any simpler. Sorry.

No it s important to him :
it means :
GTX 760 - 60 FPS
GTX 970 - 98 FPS
98/60=1.63333 or 63.33% up

 

[tiny voices]

Your equation is stating that the 760 is 63% as good as the 970. That mean the 970 is only 37% better.

 

[rockie_]

Your equation is stating that the 760 is 63% as good as the 970. That mean the 970 is only 37% better.

1.633333 = 163.33% or increase of 63.33%

 

[lethalshark]

That is a very good PSU, but not enough for SLI.

By now I have somewhat dismissed the idea of SLI as it seems more costly time and money wise.
My questions now are: Will this PSU be able to handle the GTX 970? Is the single GTX 970 better than the SLI 760s?

Yes your PSU is fine. No, a 970 is only better in some places. It is a very good card and better than 760SLI is poorly optimized games. But in games with good SLI profiles, the 760SLI will be better by almost 20%.

Your equation is stating that the 760 is 63% as good as the 970. That mean the 970 is only 37% better.

1.633333 = 163.33% or increase of 63.33%

Which GTX 970 are you looking at? Can you send me a link from NewEgg?

 

[tiny voices]

So, look. The chart is based on the 970 equaling 100% right? Yes. So if they list the 760 at 63%. They are saying it is 63% as powerful as the 970. Because the chart is BASED ON THE 970. So, if the 760 is 63% as good, then the 970 is only 37% better. Simple.

 

[lethalshark]

That is a very good PSU, but not enough for SLI.

By now I have somewhat dismissed the idea of SLI as it seems more costly time and money wise.
My questions now are: Will this PSU be able to handle the GTX 970? Is the single GTX 970 better than the SLI 760s?

Yes your PSU is fine. No, a 970 is only better in some places. It is a very good card and better than 760SLI is poorly optimized games. But in games with good SLI profiles, the 760SLI will be better by almost 20%.

Okay so now I have 2 options that have different pros and cons:
Nice Flame War Btw Guys 😛
Correct/Add to the List if I make a mistake

SLI Route:
20% Better On SLI Optimized (most) Games
40% Worse On Non SLI Optimized Games
More PSU Usage
PRICE(Note these Prices Do NOT Include Sales)
Cost Of 2nd 760: $224.99
Cost Of New PSU: $129.99
TOTAL=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
$354.98

GTX 970 Route:
40% Better On Non SLI Optimized Games
20% Worse On Optimized Games
Less Power Usage
Cost Of New GPU: UNKNOWN, NEED A LINK TO THE GPU ON NEWEGG

 

[tiny voices]

Any of them will be fine. Sorry for this dude's incorrect explanation.

The Strix and EVGA are great options for a 970.

 

[lethalshark]

Any of them will be fine. Sorry for this dude's incorrect explanation.

The Strix and EVGA are great options for a 970.

So this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ2C61974
Or this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487075
Are fine?

 

[tiny voices]

Yeah, either of those are great.

 

[rockie_]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127832&cm_re=gtx_970-_-14-127-832-_-Product

 

[tiny voices]

Get either the EVGA or that MSI as they are both the same price.

 

[lethalshark]

Yeah, either of those are great.

Get either the EVGA or that MSI as they are both the same price.

Editing my chart, What is the difference between the EVGA and Asus?

 

[tiny voices]

Nothing really. The performance would be the same. Honestly any 970 you but will basically perform the same as any other one. Within the margin of error. Because you don;t plan to overclock it, there is not reason to get an expensive one.

 

[lethalshark]

Yeah, either of those are great.

EDITED VERSION

Okay so now I have 2 options that have different pros and cons:
Nice Flame War Btw Guys 😛
Correct/Add to the List if I make a mistake

SLI Route:
20% Better On SLI Optimized (most) Games
40% Worse On Non SLI Optimized Games
More PSU Usage
PRICE(Note these Prices Do NOT Include Sales)
Cost Of 2nd 760: $224.99
Cost Of New PSU: $129.99
TOTAL=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
$354.98

GTX 970 Route:
40% Better On Non SLI Optimized Games
20% Worse On Optimized Games
Less Power Usage
Cost Of New GPU: $349.99(Note these Prices Do NOT Include Sales)
TOTAL=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
$349.99

So we have a very close deal here, but which is better in the LONG RUN? I assume 760 will be out of date soon since the my brand the MSI currently unavailable

 

[tiny voices]

I guess go for the 970. It is a toss up. and no a VERY good quality 750w PSU can be had for $89.99.

 

[rockie_]

i told you before - a single GTX 970 ! SLI has driver issues . GTX 970 has 4GB VRAM .draws less power than GTX 760 SLI

 

[tiny voices]

SLI doesn't have driver issues. I used an SLI setup for 2 years and now have a CF setup. Never one time had driver issues. That is something people say to try and steer people away from dual cards. It holds little to no truth.

 

[lethalshark]

I guess go for the 970. It is a toss up. and no a VERY good quality 750w PSU can be had for $89.99.

So 970 it is and also the chart does say that the products are not based on current sales, they are based on the base price.

 

[tiny voices]

Just get the cheapest 970 you can. They will all be basically the same. They do not run hot or use alot of power, so any model is fine.

 

[tiny voices]

Make sure you know that DayZ and GTA 5 will not run at max even with a 970. You need a better CPU.

 

[lethalshark]

Anybody want to say one more thing before I decide? I am going for the EVGA GTX 970 as seen here on Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487075
I do not need a new PSU
And with this should be able to run High/Max settings depending on the game

Is this Correct?