Question What do you make of the current GPU market?

[axlrose]

Just looking for an outside perspective. Gpu's seem stupid expensive. Yet we still have demand that outpaces supply. It's been this way for a while now. Tariffs are making it worse. The economy has been rough for years. How are gpu's still going for 2k?

 

[Eximo]

1) Artificial Intelligence - It is the market to make more money in then selling gaming GPUs
2) Mobile/Console graphics solutions have improved - entry level desktop gaming is more exclusive
3) Gaming beyond 1080p has become more popular with enthusiasts- cards got bigger to accommodate
4) GPUs are multipurpose. With the advent of CUDA and OpenCL, etc, there is another market to create additional demand. Homegrown AI projects and products also doesn't help.

Frankly, if you just want to play games, you don't have to buy a $600 plus GPU. You can get a used card or get a new entry level card. Entry level card of today is roughly equivalent to a flagship GPU of 5-7 years ago.

 

[helper800]

Just looking for an outside perspective. Gpu's seem stupid expensive. Yet we still have demand that outpaces supply. It's been this way for a while now. Tariffs are making it worse. The economy has been rough for years. How are gpu's still going for 2k?

Nvidia makes as few consumer cards possible with its chips to sell them with 90% profit margins in the professional and enterprise markets. If there are any chips that are not good enough for either of those product segments Nvidia blesses us with a 5000 series card. Monopolies are bad, though AMD with their 9070 XT is trying its best to turn the consumer market into a duopoly. All of these chips are also made on TSMC 4N or 4NP wafers, and Nvidia, AMD, Apple, et cetera all compete for their capacity. I would suspect to be renting your graphics card for 50-200 dollars a month in the next 10-15 years assuming Nvidia does not completely abandon the gaming industry altogether. Sorry for the doom and gloom, but that is how I see it.

 

[Eximo]

I think things may readjust a little when all the fabs currently under construction or in early production get into full swing. If Intel starts producing gaming GPUs using their own 18A node, they have said they will do this, they should be able to make a decent dent in the gaming market. May even out produce AMD doing that.

Also, tariffs against China will either be abated, canceled, or assembly will move to vietnam/malaysia/thailand as has been the trend the last few years.

 

[stonecarver]

Just looking for an outside perspective.

I think we all know the new GPU market is a never ending treadmill, getting more than the cost of a new washing machine territory.

Right now even on the used market GPU's are ridding high in price but like every year when we hit summer the used ones seem to get better in price.

I keep seeing RTX 2070's going for $200-250 and in reality that's 4 gens back. I mean if you were on a GTX 960 or lower the RTX 2070 would be better but than you again are just in front of it hitting legacy status sooner than later.

If we jump to the RTX 3000's higher end used there the same as RTX 5000 series low to mid price wise.

Just as far as me, myself and I is not the time to pull the trigger just yet.

In the coming months I need to buy 3 GPU's so I keep on top of the market like fly's on ----.

 

[Eximo]

For the budget market, basically worth it to try and score an Intel B580. There is always the RX7600, which hopefully gets supplanted by an RX 9060 in the same price range as the 4060Ti (with similar performance) I am not expecting pricing miracles out of AMD.

 

[dark_globe]

I think we all know the new GPU market is a never ending treadmill, getting more than the cost of a new washing machine territory.

Right now even on the used market GPU's are ridding high in price but like every year when we hit summer the used ones seem to get better in price.

I keep seeing RTX 2070's going for $200-250 and in reality that's 4 gens back. I mean if you were on a GTX 960 or lower the RTX 2070 would be better but than you again are just in front of it hitting legacy status sooner than later.

If we jump to the RTX 3000's higher end used there the same as RTX 5000 series low to mid price wise.

Just as far as me, myself and I is not the time to pull the trigger just yet.

In the coming months I need to buy 3 GPU's so I keep on top of the market like fly's on ----.

well i bought my 2070 super almost two years ago for 200 dollars with half year of warranty still left .
seeing as how its still performing on par with 2 generations newer rtx 4060
and also has the same amount of VRAM i´m still pretty happy with it
(and rtx 5060 will not be much better it seems , 5xxx series is a bad joke all together) ,
i play mainly total war games and cs2 and for that it is still more than enough .
i will wait until used 4070 Ti super / 4080 drop in price and then i will make an upgrade .

the last good mid range gpu was the gtx 1060 6gb released nearly decade ago
and performing on par with previous generations flag ship gtx 980 ,
since then nvidia is just selling us garbage and increase the prices of each generation ...
rtx 3060/4060 and now 5060 can´t even beat the xx80 cards from 2-3 generations ago ...

 

[stonecarver]

well i bought my 2070 super two years ago for 200 dollars

Nothing wrong with the RTX 2070 that was not my intention the still $200. used price is. You even just said it was $200. two years ago.

since then nvidia is just selling us garbage and increase the prices of each generation ...
rtx 3060/4060 and now 5060 can´t even beat the xx80 cards from 2-3 generations ago ...

Well said.

 

[Gururu]

A Starbucks in hand, an Apple on the ear and an nVidia in the computer

 

[Harry181]

The current GPU market is stabilizing, with prices improving due to increased supply and competition from AMD and Intel. However, high-end models remain expensive, driven by AI demand and premium gaming features.

 

[geofelt]

Why are gpu prices higher than they used to be?
Simple answer..... supply and demand.
Also, inflation has been increasing.

 

[QyInvoLing]

1. The already gone popularity of mining increased the GPUs' price, and after the mining's gone, GPUs' price didn't drop.
2. AI. Players cannot compete with big companies, they order hundreds or thousands of cards, so GPU maders won't consider players as a significant part.
3. Almost full monopoly of NVIDIA. AMD and Intel is too weak to compete with NVIDIA from 40-series' release to b580&9070 series' release, at that time, NVIDIA fully dominated the market. After the release of 50-series, it controls the manufacturing of GPU chips, and it torture AICs that don't obey NV. Maxsun hasn't get ANY 50-series chips yet, because it sold too much cheap 20-series cards years ago, thus leading it cannot get 30 and 50 series cards after release.

In China, there's a picture showing that a yellow dog is dead and gone to the heaven, we call it "yellow dog dead picture". The yellow dog represents Jensen Huang, Huang equals to yellow in Chinese, and dog represents players' angry towards him. The image is released by Maxsun's official account years ago, and till now, every player in China calls Jensen Huang "Yellow Dog" angrily.

Due to NVIDIA's ultimate arrogance, EVGA has left the GPU market, and Maxsun has joined Intel to produce Arc graphics cards.

I'm not claiming that if AMD/Intel took the place of NVIDIA, they will become more "friendly". Large companies are all the same, I support AMD and Intel means that I support market competing. I've bought 7900xt, 7900gre, 6750gre, b580, a770, a380 to support them. Come on, go and start competing with NVIDIA!

 

[QyInvoLing]

The "Yellow Dog dead to heaven" picture:

https://imgur.com/a/Xfw6GwR

View: https://imgur.com/a/Xfw6GwR