What i7 cpu to go with for editing and gaming?

[gabriel_p]

Not sure what to decide out of
- Intel core i7 5820k
- Intel core i7 4790k
- Intel core i7 6700k
This pc build will be for hd editing and gaming, thanks

 

[Rookie_MIB]

Depends on what you want to spend. The 5820k is Haswell-E, which means X99, LGA-2011, quad channel RAM, and 6 cores with Hyperthreading. From a performance p.o.v., it will handily beat either of the other two systems. It will also be much more expensive.

The other two from a performance p.o.v. will be pretty close to each other, the 4790k build will probably be cheaper, but have no upgrade path. The 6700 build will have an upgrade path if you choose to make any changes.

 

[JQB45]

I like the i7-6700k, because we're likely to see a refresh set of cpu's released for that socket. Where as the 1150 scoket is end of life and so is 2011v3 I believe. Please correct me if I am wrong...

 

[gabriel_p]

I like the i7-6700k, because we're likely to see a refresh set of cpu's released for that socket. Where as the 1150 scoket is end of life and so is 2011v3 I believe. Please correct me if I am wrong...

I thought 2011-3 was the newest? The 6700k is 1151, 4790k is 1150 and 5820k is 2011-3, not 100% sure though now that you say that..

 

[JQB45]

1151 is the newest. But I don't see Intel releasing anything new on the 2011v3, I'd expect them to come out with a 2011v4 for 7000 series Extreme chips.

 

[gabriel_p]

1151 is the newest. But I don't see Intel releasing anything new on the 2011v3, I'd expect them to come out with a 2011v4 for 7000 series Extreme chips.

Does the newest always mean better though. The best cpu in 1151 is 6700k, the best in 2011-3 is 5960x, and 5960x is the best cpu right now on the market.

 

[Rookie_MIB]

1151 is the newest. But I don't see Intel releasing anything new on the 2011v3, I'd expect them to come out with a 2011v4 for 7000 series Extreme chips.

Does the newest always mean better though. The best cpu in 1151 is 6700k, the best in 2011-3 is 5960x, and 5960x is the best cpu right now on the market.

Exactly. The thing is that overall Skylake performance is only marginally better than Haswell. There are benefits to the 100 series chipsets associated with Skylake though for a more 'future proof' system that will have a longer overall life to make it worthwhile, but it REALLY is more about the chipset than the actual CPU in this latest generation. DDR4, more M.2/U.2 support, more PCIe lanes to the CPU and more flexibility in how those IO lanes are used is what is most defining about the Skylake vs Haswell design.

 

[gabriel_p]

1151 is the newest. But I don't see Intel releasing anything new on the 2011v3, I'd expect them to come out with a 2011v4 for 7000 series Extreme chips.

Does the newest always mean better though. The best cpu in 1151 is 6700k, the best in 2011-3 is 5960x, and 5960x is the best cpu right now on the market.

Exactly. The thing is that overall Skylake performance is only marginally better than Haswell. There are benefits to the 100 series chipsets associated with Skylake though for a more 'future proof' system that will have a longer overall life to make it worthwhile, but it REALLY is more about the chipset than the actual CPU in this latest generation. DDR4, more M.2/U.2 support, more PCIe lanes to the CPU and more flexibility in how those IO lanes are used is what is most defining about the Skylake vs Haswell design.

I think i will be going with the 5930k, because of the pcie lanes, i would be running 2 graphics cards and want to make the most out of them, and 5820k wouldnt be able to do that for me.

 

[JQB45]

You would only need the 5930k if you were running 3 or more graphics cards.

 

[gabriel_p]

You would only need the 5930k if you were running 3 or more graphics cards.

But the 5820k can't do 16x 16x on two graphics cards, it only has 28 lanes

 

[JQB45]

Good Point.

 

[gabriel_p]

Good Point.

I have read that there is no difference between 8x and 16x, but then if i wanted to upgrade to 3 980 ti's later on, 16x, 8x, and 4x is probably not going to work great

 

[Rookie_MIB]

All good points, and a very valid example of why you should plan and research before you start buying parts. Now, if your ultimate goal is just 'triple SLI GTX 980ti's, there are more than one way to accomplish that. In fact, if you want a quad-SLI, here's a motherboard which is LGA 1150 and accomplishes it via PLX. Gigabyte GA-Z97X Gaming GT.

It is GPU capable of:

1 @ 16x
2 @ 16x
3 @ 8x
4 @ 8x

All from the handy, dandy PLX chip. So - in that respect this board was designed from the ground up to enable 4-way SLI. The advantage is that while the motherboard would be comparable in price to the X99 motherboards, it'll allow you to use cheap and fast DDR3 along with a good i7-4790k CPU which will be cheaper than the 5930k by a LOT (~$200 or so)

 

[gabriel_p]

All good points, and a very valid example of why you should plan and research before you start buying parts. Now, if your ultimate goal is just 'triple SLI GTX 980ti's, there are more than one way to accomplish that. In fact, if you want a quad-SLI, here's a motherboard which is LGA 1150 and accomplishes it via PLX. Gigabyte GA-Z97X Gaming GT.

It is GPU capable of:

1 @ 16x
2 @ 16x
3 @ 8x
4 @ 8x

All from the handy, dandy PLX chip. So - in that respect this board was designed from the ground up to enable 4-way SLI. The advantage is that while the motherboard would be comparable in price to the X99 motherboards, it'll allow you to use cheap and fast DDR3 along with a good i7-4790k CPU which will be cheaper than the 5930k by a LOT (~$200 or so)

i feel like i want to stay ddr4, with the 5930k and the asus x99-e ws motherboard, it has a good soundcard and i can just add wireless wifi to it, also 5930k is better for editing than the 4790k, when i build this pc i am going to make sure i have enough money so it doesn't matter how expensive everything is and i dont always have to go with the worse option just because it is cheaper

 

[Tradesman1]

Sounds like a plan, teh 5930K will make for a great rig and lots of expansion possibilities, with prices as they are might consider 32GB of DRAM also

 

[gabriel_p]

Sounds like a plan, teh 5930K will make for a great rig and lots of expansion possibilities, with prices as they are might consider 32GB of DRAM also

Alright sick, thankyou

 

[Tradesman1]

No worries, let us know how it comes out 😉

 

[JQB45]

Here is the wireless card I use: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di
Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter

 

[Rookie_MIB]

i feel like i want to stay ddr4, with the 5930k and the asus x99-e ws motherboard, it has a good soundcard and i can just add wireless wifi to it, also 5930k is better for editing than the 4790k, when i build this pc i am going to make sure i have enough money so it doesn't matter how expensive everything is and i dont always have to go with the worse option just because it is cheaper

Fair enough, the advantages for video editing are there with the extra cores and the use of DDR4 allows re-use if you wind up upgrading things down the road for whatever reason. And to be honest, regardless of if you're aiming for a 'money no object' build there is always going to be a compromise between price and performance. The build you're putting together is solid, but there are even more powerful systems out there. For example, if you really wanted a balls out build, you could put together a quad-xeon workstation - some places offer those and they start around $9000.00. 24 cores, 48 threads.

That would be fun to play with, lol.

 

[Tradesman1]

Let us know what you think 😉

 

[gabriel_p]

i feel like i want to stay ddr4, with the 5930k and the asus x99-e ws motherboard, it has a good soundcard and i can just add wireless wifi to it, also 5930k is better for editing than the 4790k, when i build this pc i am going to make sure i have enough money so it doesn't matter how expensive everything is and i dont always have to go with the worse option just because it is cheaper

Fair enough, the advantages for video editing are there with the extra cores and the use of DDR4 allows re-use if you wind up upgrading things down the road for whatever reason. And to be honest, regardless of if you're aiming for a 'money no object' build there is always going to be a compromise between price and performance. The build you're putting together is solid, but there are even more powerful systems out there. For example, if you really wanted a balls out build, you could put together a quad-xeon workstation - some places offer those and they start around $9000.00. 24 cores, 48 threads.

That would be fun to play with, lol.

Thats insane, i don't think i need that soon but maybe further down the road haha

 

[Rookie_MIB]

Thats insane, i don't think i need that soon but maybe further down the road haha

Actually, I was skimming around on eBay and found a nice HP series workstation that's available at a very reasonable cost. It's a Z800, dual hex core capable, so 12 cores/24 threads, for well under $1000 (used). It doesn't come with a good video card (older Quadro 3800 or lower) but that's easy enough to change and with some careful shopping for the dual quad-core Xeon version and buying some used hex-core Xeons to drop in, it would be a VERY potent system for a very inexpensive price.

I think I found some geekbench scores which were in the 40,000 range which is way beyond anything I've ever put together... lol.

 

[JQB45]

My friend is thinking about buying a Z800, but he'll be using it as it was intended, as a server/workstation. I'd be curious how the Z800 with a decent gaming card would do in modern games with those older 1366 pin Xeon CPU's.