Question what is the minimum CPU Fan i5 2500K gaming ?

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- Is the Cooler Master Hyper-Tx3-Evo sufficient for Cooling and Running games On i5 2500K CPU without getting overheated when gaming for long period and KEEP THE CPU STABLE.

- I had a problem recently after i bought i5 2500K when i do play pubg for like 1 hour or 2 hours using the stock fan , i start hearing the pc CPU Stock fan start running very loud and the pc shutdowns

i need a sure answer please




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PC SPECS : i5 2500K 3.3ghz (not overlocked )
RAM : 8gb DDR3 (4gb DDR3 x 2)
GPU : NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 650 1 GB GDDR5
OS : windows 10 pro
DELL OPTIPLEX 390 MOTHERBOARD

 

[velocityg4]

It should be fine. As it is a big improvement over stock Intel coolers. It kept the i7-2600k cool under load at standard clock. Although it will struggle with overclocking. Mild overclocks should be fine though.
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/p...ng/cooler-master-hyper-tx3-evo-1041958/review

By the way. If the CPU is overheating it should start to thermal throttle before shutting down. Unless there is something wrong with the heatsink or thermal paste. It should not heat to the point of shutting down. As a stock heatsink should keep up with stock settings, most definitely keep up with reduced speeds from thermal throttling. Are you sure it isn't something else?

 

[Karadjgne]

Stock coolers only keep up with stock settings under nominal usage, that being websurfing, light office, light Photoshop etc. Normal, average stuff. Stock coolers are not designed for intensive gaming or what's called extreme usage, like rendering or other programs that can drive the cpu above @ 70% usage.

For extreme usage, you'll need a better cooler, how much better depends on the extreme usage limits. OC is an extreme usage, but a mild OC isn't as demanding as a high OC, so the cooler has to match the cpu/user needs.

You can't over-cool a cpu. No such thing as having too much cooling, but you sure can and quite often do under-cool a cpu.

The TX3 is decent, for its size, but is often rated as one of those budget coolers that's only one step above stock. So you'll have to figure on exactly what the cpu needs according to demand and what a user wants specifically. The TX3 is still going to run kinda loud under hard usage, so if you want silence then go bigger.

Personally I'd go with a Cryorig M9i, Deepcool Lucifer, Deepcool Gammax GT, Raijintek Aidos, Raijintek Themis EVO or similar over a TX3.

Which Dell Optiplex 390? There's 3 different models and you'll need to know which and exactly how much space you have for a cooler. If you have the super slim, you'll only be able to use low profile coolers like the Reeven Brontes 100b, but even the sff tower version has limits and you might be stuck with smaller 92mm coolers as even the 136mm TX3 may be too tall.

 

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Stock coolers only keep up with stock settings under nominal usage, that being websurfing, light office, light Photoshop etc. Normal, average stuff. Stock coolers are not designed for intensive gaming or what's called extreme usage, like rendering or other programs that can drive the cpu above @ 70% usage.

For extreme usage, you'll need a better cooler, how much better depends on the extreme usage limits. OC is an extreme usage, but a mild OC isn't as demanding as a high OC, so the cooler has to match the cpu/user needs.

You can't over-cool a cpu. No such thing as having too much cooling, but you sure can and quite often do under-cool a cpu.

The TX3 is decent, for its size, but is often rated as one of those budget coolers that's only one step above stock. So you'll have to figure on exactly what the cpu needs according to demand and what a user wants specifically. The TX3 is still going to run kinda loud under hard usage, so if you want silence then go bigger.

Personally I'd go with a Cryorig M9i, Deepcool Lucifer, Deepcool Gammax GT, Raijintek Aidos, Raijintek Themis EVO or similar over a TX3.

Which Dell Optiplex 390? There's 3 different models and you'll need to know which and exactly how much space you have for a cooler. If you have the super slim, you'll only be able to use low profile coolers like the Reeven Brontes 100b, but even the sff tower version has limits and you might be stuck with smaller 92mm coolers as even the 136mm TX3 may be too tall.

I got a dell optiplex 390 Mini tower motherboard but i have a Different case ,im not using the Main dell one , as i mentioned Before Karadjgne , i want my pc to be stable while playing video games Like PUBG and keep the Temp under 60C and Stable , Can the TX3 evo handle this ? if not any suggestions would be helpful .

 

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It should be fine. As it is a big improvement over stock Intel coolers. It kept the i7-2600k cool under load at standard clock. Although it will struggle with overclocking. Mild overclocks should be fine though.
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/p...ng/cooler-master-hyper-tx3-evo-1041958/review

By the way. If the CPU is overheating it should start to thermal throttle before shutting down. Unless there is something wrong with the heatsink or thermal paste. It should not heat to the point of shutting down. As a stock heatsink should keep up with stock settings, most definitely keep up with reduced speeds from thermal throttling. Are you sure it isn't something else?

Yeah i dont want to overclock MY CPU , only playing with Standard i5 2500K ,
ABOUT THE Overheating , while playing in PUBG for like 2 hours , i start hearing that The Fan starts changing speed and going louder automatically for a quite while and then after this the pc just shutdowns , i have checked GPU no problem , HDD no PROBLEM , RAM no PROBLEM ,

what do you think i can do to fix this ?
Thanks in advance

 

[velocityg4]

Install MSI afterburner and enable OSD. That way you can see what temps you are getting on the CPU and GPU.

 

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Install MSI afterburner and enable OSD. That way you can see what temps you are getting on the CPU and GPU.

what do you mean BY OSD ?
dear velocityg4 i have used before a program called Speed Fan and when i do play only for like 1.5-2 hours in PUBG the CPU Temperature reaches to 85C degree ,
while the GPU Temperature is Stable

Any ideas ?

 

[Karadjgne]

Osd is on screen display. It's an overlay that sits in the top left of the screen while you are actually in-game and does real-time temps for cores gpu etc, however you set it. It's also far more accurate than SpeedFan usually is as far as actual temps go. Really ideal for ppl with a single monitor. Running dual monitors gets me multiple other options as I'm not reliant on max temps.

You are getting shutdowns. That generally doesn't happen unless the cpu has already throttled, a bunch, and there's no hope in sight. Only then does the cpu call it quits. There's usually 2 inherent causes for this, lack of sufficient cooler size and lack of airflow. You can have a great cooler like a Noctua NH-D15S and still get temps skyrocketing if there's insufficient airflow and the pc case has become an oven. If it's 70° inside the case, the cooler can't cool the cpu below 70°. So case fans and decent airflow can play a large part in keeping your pc cool under loads.

OC is not necessarily a bad thing. Your cpu currently is running on stock voltages. Those voltages are intentionally set overly high by Intel, to guarantee stability of every 2500 cpu. Each cpu is different, and responds differently to different voltages, all part of the silicon lottery. And it covers turbo too.

My i5-3570k stock voltages are @ 1.25v. Base clock is 3.4GHz, turbo is 3.8GHz. Same voltage. I can set the multiplier to 4.2GHz and still get the same voltages and temps. However, if I manually change the vcore from auto to 1.114v my temps go from idle/game/stress of 32/60/80 to 32/55/70. And that's at 4.3GHz, 500MHz above turbo with lower than stock auto voltages.

So just saying you have no OC, or assuming that OC will raise temps is not quite right, for a small-mild OC you can actually lower temps overall.

I already gave some other cooler options, the TX3 will work, but it's on the low end of the scale, it's a 10 year old design using a fan that was ok 10 years ago, but there are newer designs that are more technologically advanced for better performance. The Cryorig m9i being a perfect example, it competes at the same level as the 120mm hyper212, the 90mm TX3 big brother. And beats it. As does the Raijintek Aidos, both 92mm coolers. With an i7-4770k at stock and OC.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/M9i/6.html

The TX3 runs @ 5°+ hotter than the 212.
Can it do the job, sure, its going to be a good 10 - 15° cooler than Intel stock, but if you are coming close to 100° and shutdowns, 85-90° isn't all that much better.

 

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Osd is on screen display. It's an overlay that sits in the top left of the screen while you are actually in-game and does real-time temps for cores gpu etc, however you set it. It's also far more accurate than SpeedFan usually is as far as actual temps go. Really ideal for ppl with a single monitor. Running dual monitors gets me multiple other options as I'm not reliant on max temps.

You are getting shutdowns. That generally doesn't happen unless the cpu has already throttled, a bunch, and there's no hope in sight. Only then does the cpu call it quits. There's usually 2 inherent causes for this, lack of sufficient cooler size and lack of airflow. You can have a great cooler like a Noctua NH-D15S and still get temps skyrocketing if there's insufficient airflow and the pc case has become an oven. If it's 70° inside the case, the cooler can't cool the cpu below 70°. So case fans and decent airflow can play a large part in keeping your pc cool under loads.

OC is not necessarily a bad thing. Your cpu currently is running on stock voltages. Those voltages are intentionally set overly high by Intel, to guarantee stability of every 2500 cpu. Each cpu is different, and responds differently to different voltages, all part of the silicon lottery. And it covers turbo too.

My i5-3570k stock voltages are @ 1.25v. Base clock is 3.4GHz, turbo is 3.8GHz. Same voltage. I can set the multiplier to 4.2GHz and still get the same voltages and temps. However, if I manually change the vcore from auto to 1.114v my temps go from idle/game/stress of 32/60/80 to 32/55/70. And that's at 4.3GHz, 500MHz above turbo with lower than stock auto voltages.

So just saying you have no OC, or assuming that OC will raise temps is not quite right, for a small-mild OC you can actually lower temps overall.

I already gave some other cooler options, the TX3 will work, but it's on the low end of the scale, it's a 10 year old design using a fan that was ok 10 years ago, but there are newer designs that are more technologically advanced for better performance. The Cryorig m9i being a perfect example, it competes at the same level as the 120mm hyper212, the 90mm TX3 big brother. And beats it. As does the Raijintek Aidos, both 92mm coolers. With an i7-4770k at stock and OC.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/M9i/6.html

The TX3 runs @ 5°+ hotter than the 212.
Can it do the job, sure, its going to be a good 10 - 15° cooler than Intel stock, but if you are coming close to 100° and shutdowns, 85-90° isn't all that much better.

Can you Clarify what does "Full load" mean please ? using all cores ?

So I guess i should go with The Cryorig m9i, but the Problem is that it doesn't sell in my country, and Finding The Examples You Did Provide in My Country is Hard , Can a CoolerMaster 212 EVo Do The Job ?

 

[velocityg4]

what do you mean BY OSD ?
dear velocityg4 i have used before a program called Speed Fan and when i do play only for like 1.5-2 hours in PUBG the CPU Temperature reaches to 85C degree ,
while the GPU Temperature is Stable

Any ideas ?

As stated it is @Karadjgne stated what OSD is well. Here is a link on enabling OSD.
https://www.msi.com/blog/setting-up-osd-with-msi-afterburner

85C is certainly hot but not shutdown temperatures. It won't start throttling until the 90-95C range.

Can you Clarify what does "Full load" mean please ? using all cores ?

So I guess i should go with The Cryorig m9i, but the Problem is that it doesn't sell in my country, and Finding The Examples You Did Provide in My Country is Hard , Can a CoolerMaster 212 EVo Do The Job ?

Generally 100% on all cores. The Hyper 212 Evo is plenty. I had no problem with 4.3Ghz on my 3570K. You may also need to look at upgrading your case fans. Arctic F12 PWM are usually quite cheap and offer excellent performance for the price. I'd start with the CPU cooler before adding better case fans. To see if they are necessary.

 

[Karadjgne]

Hyper212 is 160mm tall and does not fit inside many mATX cases.
Let's start from the beginning, what case (or cooler clearance height from the manual), case fans? And what country if you please.

 

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Im From Morocco , About the case name i have no idea what is it called , its so old 13 years old , there is a place 3 fans

• 1 Inside i have no idea what is their size , and 1 Place is FREE
• and 1 on the Case Door Glass