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Ether? Methanol, ethanol? Are there different solvents for colour and
black cartridges, BTW? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D
 
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Dean Keaton wrote:

> Ether? Methanol, ethanol? Are there different solvents for colour and
> black cartridges, BTW? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D


I believe that the black ink uses dihydrogen monoxide for a solvent.

The color one probably uses water as a solvent.



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"jbuch" <jbuch@CUTHERErevealed.net> wrote in message
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> Dean Keaton wrote:
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> > Ether? Methanol, ethanol? Are there different solvents for colour and
> > black cartridges, BTW? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D
>
>
> I believe that the black ink uses dihydrogen monoxide for a solvent.
>
> The color one probably uses water as a solvent.

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/productdata/ijmsdseng.html
has links to MSDS data for various HP cartridges. There are many different ink
types, but the few I looked up have dihydrogen monoxide as a large component
:).

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
 
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You can get the black ink base at www.inkjetsaver.com. It's what they use
for the cart cleaning kit.



"Dean Keaton" <spagetti.armar@combort.se> wrote in message
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> Ether? Methanol, ethanol? Are there different solvents for colour and
> black cartridges, BTW? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D
 
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Stop joking around...

The most common base solvents in inkjet inks is water aka
dihydrogen monoxide.

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> I believe that the black ink uses dihydrogen monoxide for a solvent.
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> The color one probably uses water as a solvent.
 
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WeInk.com Technical Support wrote:

> Stop joking around...
>
> The most common base solvents in inkjet inks is water aka
> dihydrogen monoxide.
>
Premium cartridges use dihydrogen monoxide.

The more common ones use water.

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dihydrogen monoxide is the chemical name for water.

H2O

There are some formulations which may use a co-solvent as
a part of the base if the dye in question is not hydrophilic.

BTW hydrophilic translates as "loves water".

Pigments do not have to be soluble in water but must
be suspended in water, either through direct electrostatic
charge or by use of a dispersant or encapsulation process
which encourages the particles to suspend by creating
the necessary static charge around the particle.
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"jbuch" <jbuch@CUTHERErevealed.net> wrote in message
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> WeInk.com Technical Support wrote:
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> > Stop joking around...
> >
> > The most common base solvents in inkjet inks is water aka
> > dihydrogen monoxide.
> >
> Premium cartridges use dihydrogen monoxide.
>
> The more common ones use water.
>
> Jim
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:40:24 GMT, Dean Keaton
<spagetti.armar@combort.se> wrote:

>Ether? Methanol, ethanol? Are there different solvents for colour and
>black cartridges, BTW? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D

Water is NOT an oxide! Oxides are salts, and water is a molecule of
covalently bonded atoms, quite the opposite of a salt!
 
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Dean Keaton wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:40:24 GMT, Dean Keaton
> <spagetti.armar@combort.se> wrote:
>
>
>>Ether? Methanol, ethanol? Are there different solvents for colour and
>>black cartridges, BTW? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D
>
>
> Water is NOT an oxide! Oxides are salts, and water is a molecule of
> covalently bonded atoms, quite the opposite of a salt!

You missed the dihydrogen monoxide spoof at a California municipality.

Because it was known to be toxic in large quantities, one of the leading
components of acid rain, and many other things similar, the municipality
was conned into forbidding the use of dihydrogen monoxide in the city
limits.

You can trust a politician, just don't expect them to know very much.

Jim
 
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:40:24 GMT, Dean Keaton
<spagetti.armar@combort.se> wrote:

>Ether? Methanol, ethanol? Are there different solvents for colour and
>black cartridges, BTW? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D

If you have a clogged cartridge that you want to refill is water or
alcohol the best to dissolve the dried ink? Or is some non-polar
solvent better? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D
 
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The definition of "oxide" is

A binary compound of an element or a radical with oxygen.

source http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=oxide

so by definition water ( H2O ) falls under the chemical family of oxides.

It application is primarily as a solvent and is the most widely used solvent
in the world.

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"Dean Keaton" <spagetti.armar@combort.se> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:40:24 GMT, Dean Keaton
> <spagetti.armar@combort.se> wrote:
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> Water is NOT an oxide! Oxides are salts, and water is a molecule of
> covalently bonded atoms, quite the opposite of a salt!
 
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So you believe Carbon Dioxide, or Carbon Monoxide to be salts?

Not that it matters much - this list is not meant to be full of
qualified chemists (not that I am one either), but just curious about
your assertion.

George.

Dean Keaton wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:40:24 GMT, Dean Keaton
> <spagetti.armar@combort.se> wrote:
>
>
>>Ether? Methanol, ethanol? Are there different solvents for colour and
>>black cartridges, BTW? Thanks in advance for any relevant reply! /D
>
>
> Water is NOT an oxide! Oxides are salts, and water is a molecule of
> covalently bonded atoms, quite the opposite of a salt!
 
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Most standard inkjet inks also use other solvents besides water, however.

The most common is some form of glycol which adds viscosity, supplies
lubrication, and also slows evaporation to help prevent nozzle/outlet
clogs, and prevents freezing during shipment in winter months.

Some pigment ink based inks use liquid polymers as part of their carrier.

I wouldn't suggest drinking any of them, even if you're thirsty.

Art

jbuch wrote:

> WeInk.com Technical Support wrote:
>
>> Stop joking around...
>>
>> The most common base solvents in inkjet inks is water aka
>> dihydrogen monoxide.
>>
> Premium cartridges use dihydrogen monoxide.
>
> The more common ones use water.
>
> Jim
>
 
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Those items, while present in some inks do not
constitute the base AND are soluble in the water
NOT acting a solvent

Glycol is not used as a solvent in inkjet inks, it is used
for the many purposes you have described Art, but in the case of
inkjet ink it is not acting as a solvent. More as a wetting agent.

The polymers used to encapsulate pigments are not acting as solvents.

I have the following basic information about inkjet inks that would
most useful to everyone, posted here:

http://www.weink.com/ecom/support/technotes/tsn16.htm

http://www.weink.com/ecom/support/technotes/tsn01.htm


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"Arthur Entlich" <artistic@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Most standard inkjet inks also use other solvents besides water, however.
>
> The most common is some form of glycol which adds viscosity, supplies
> lubrication, and also slows evaporation to help prevent nozzle/outlet
> clogs, and prevents freezing during shipment in winter months.
>
> Some pigment ink based inks use liquid polymers as part of their carrier.
>
> I wouldn't suggest drinking any of them, even if you're thirsty.
>
> Art
>
> jbuch wrote:
>
> > WeInk.com Technical Support wrote:
> >
> >> Stop joking around...
> >>
> >> The most common base solvents in inkjet inks is water aka
> >> dihydrogen monoxide.
> >>
> > Premium cartridges use dihydrogen monoxide.
> >
> > The more common ones use water.
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
 
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One of many descriptions of glycol ethers:

Glycol Ether
Ethylene Glycol Monoethyl Ether
Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether
Propylene Glycol Monomethyl Ether
Chemical Backgrounder

Description:

Glycol ethers are general solvents, also known as cellosolves, which are
used in the semiconductor industry. They are also used in surface
coatings, such as lacquers, paints, and varnishes; fingernail polishes
and removers; dyes; writing inks; cleaners; and degreasers. Three
important glycol ethers are ethylene glycol monoethyl ether (CAS
#110-80-5), ethylene glycol monobutyl ether (CAS #111-76-2), and
propylene glycol monomethyl ether (CAS #107-98-2).

Ethylene glycol monoethyl ether is used in varnish removers, lacquers,
and as a solvent for printing inks, duplicating fluids, and epoxy.
Ethylene glycol monobutyl ether is used in hydraulic fluids, as a
coupling agent for water-based coatings, in vinyl and acrylic paints and
varnishes, and as a solvent for varnishes, enamels, spray lacquers, dry
cleaning compounds, textiles, and cosmetics.

Propylene glycol monomethyl ether is primarily used in the manufacture
of lacquers and paints, as an anti-freeze in industrial engines, a
tailing agent for inks used on very high-speed presses, a coupling agent
for resins and dyes in water-based inks, and a solvent for celluloses,
acrylics, dyes, inks, and stains. It is also used in cleaning products
such as glass and rug cleaners, carbon and grease removers, and paint
and varnish removers; and in pesticide formulations as a solvent for
applications to crops and animals.

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Seems to me they are solvents... And yes, I fully understand that water
is the principal solvent used in the inkjet inks used by consumer inkjet
printers. However, the reason why ammoniated window cleaner works so
well on unclogging inkjet ink is due to both the ammonia and the glycol
solvent in the liquid.

I would agree that the polymer resin in pigment inks is a carrier rather
than a solvent.

Art



WeInk.com Technical Support wrote:

> Those items, while present in some inks do not
> constitute the base AND are soluble in the water
> NOT acting a solvent
>
> Glycol is not used as a solvent in inkjet inks, it is used
> for the many purposes you have described Art, but in the case of
> inkjet ink it is not acting as a solvent. More as a wetting agent.
>
> The polymers used to encapsulate pigments are not acting as solvents.
>
> I have the following basic information about inkjet inks that would
> most useful to everyone, posted here:
>
> http://www.weink.com/ecom/support/technotes/tsn16.htm
>
> http://www.weink.com/ecom/support/technotes/tsn01.htm
>
>
 
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Bill Haught wrote:

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LOL
Looks like you forgot good old DHMO (dihydrogen monoxide)
 
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