When does someone NEED an i7

[michaelmk86]

Right now, IMO there is nothing out that just blows the Phenom II's out of the water, including I7's for real world gaming.

Your statement is just pure BS.

Anyway, i7 get much more fps than the PII end of story.

 

[xtc28]

Troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[medjohnson77]

Yes it did get more, much more is another story and looks like with 9.8 drivers the gap is shrinking to Phenom IIs favor.

And if Two rigs both give smooth game play, with no difference that the human eye can tell, well the rest is all just really doesn't matter. If prices were the same, it might be hands down win, but its not, so its not. You made it sound as if that when Dx11 comes people with any processor other then an I7 were out of luck, that poof there gaming rig would just be out of date with out that magic chip in there rig..... Sorry but I think 9.8 just killed that myth, and it is only gonna get better.

 

[mpavao81]

if price is a issue you could always wait like 2 months, by then price of i7 cores/boards and triple memory kits should drop a bit to make it easier to swallow. its actually what i plan on doing, im going to wait to till early oct to grab a i7 950. Unless something else catches my eye.

 

[medjohnson77]

price really isn't a issue with me on the I7 920 however the two upper models I do have a issue with. I don't think I will give any company over $500 for a processor, but thats just me. I am not knocking people who feel they need or want those high end chips, I believe I can find better things to spend $500-1000 grand on.

 

[armi]

So i7 gives a nice difference in gaming but really it's a CPU meant for higher end tasks like video tasks. Thanks. I can't wait for my friend to be "dinged" in the wallet when he doesn't notice a substantial difference from his c2q and an i7 because he didn't listen to me. Haha thanks guys

 

[theholylancer]

wait tho, if he upgrades gfx he will see some difference, make sure you get him to upgrade CPU only!!!

 

[xtc28]

now that would be funny! Get a video camera ready for the expression and post it on YOu tube!!! lol

 

[stevensl2]

When Somebody Makes a thread called "When does someone need an i7"

 

[roofus]

Your point of it getting more is a mute one, and the reason why is that in real world gaming you or anyone else will not notice the very few more your getting with the I7 build in CF or SLI, over a Phenom II in CF. Both play at well above min fps required to have a very smooth gaming experience.

Outside of the most ridiculously expensive setups, I do agree with you. Nobody really needs more than a single high end card and most midrange cards perform very close for significantly less. You cannot excuse it as a waste and unnecessary though. This is a hobby for many and one that intersects with how they pay their bills. Muscle cars are a waste of money to someone who doesn't appreciate what they are. The Intel/AMD saga is classic Chevy/Ford argument. The truth is most of us here piss away severe amounts of cash just to play sloppy console ports. The best looking games typically disappoint when it comes to actual gameplay. An i7 is overkill. A P2 955 is overkill. A car that can go anything above 70mph is overkill but you know.. it is more about knowing what it can do and not so much abusing it day in, day out. The guys who can afford to go radical and share their successes and failures with others have my respect but so does the guy who just built his first computer on a 600 dollar budget.

 

[medjohnson77]

Outside of the most ridiculously expensive setups, I do agree with you. Nobody really needs more than a single high end card and most midrange cards perform very close for significantly less. You cannot excuse it as a waste and unnecessary though. This is a hobby for many and one that intersects with how they pay their bills. Muscle cars are a waste of money to someone who doesn't appreciate what they are. The Intel/AMD saga is classic Chevy/Ford argument. The truth is most of us here piss away severe amounts of cash just to play sloppy console ports. The best looking games typically disappoint when it comes to actual gameplay. An i7 is overkill. A P2 955 is overkill. A car that can go anything above 70mph is overkill but you know.. it is more about knowing what it can do and not so much abusing it day in, day out. The guys who can afford to go radical and share their successes and failures with others have my respect but so does the guy who just built his first computer on a 600 dollar budget.

I agree with you,

If someone wants the best benchmarks out there, and wants to buy all the hardware to get the best for benchmarking, then that is great. The only point I really made, not trying to make a I7 look like a waste of money, because for some its not a waste of money, to show how wrong the statement made by him is, "With Dx11 and new cards coming out, I7s will be mandatory." That is a very bold statement , since you have Phenom II's, I5's coming out very soon, higher end C2Q's, all of which really are not that far behind the I7 in gaming if at all. That statement he made is pure BS, that was my point, not to make a I7 build look like a bad choice. For some there are better choices then I7 for gaming rigs.

There was another thread on here, something about I'm building a $10,000 dollars Rig, for real, no joke.

I find one of the posters response to the OP to be a very good one. Why build a $10000 gaming rig, when you can build a $5000 dollar one today that will be cutting edge, and in 2 or three years, build another rig that will be just as cutting edge and more, compared to your one $10000 dollar rig that will be not so cutting edge in a few years.

 

[roofus]

I7 isnt going to shake the core of the earth with DX11. GPU's will have more influence over the dt experience than the cpu.

 

[amdfangirl]

I agree with you,

If someone wants the best benchmarks out there, and wants to buy all the hardware to get the best for benchmarking, then that is great. The only point I really made, not trying to make a I7 look like a waste of money, because for some its not a waste of money, to show how wrong the statement made by him is, "With Dx11 and new cards coming out, I7s will be mandatory." That is a very bold statement , since you have Phenom II's, I5's coming out very soon, higher end C2Q's, all of which really are not that far behind the I7 in gaming if at all. That statement he made is pure BS, that was my point, not to make a I7 build look like a bad choice. For some there are better choices then I7 for gaming rigs.

There was another thread on here, something about I'm building a $10,000 dollars Rig, for real, no joke.

I find one of the posters response to the OP to be a very good one. Why build a $10000 gaming rig, when you can build a $5000 dollar one today that will be cutting edge, and in 2 or three years, build another rig that will be just as cutting edge and more, compared to your one $10000 dollar rig that will be not so cutting edge in a few years.

Depends, some people like to buy one high end and make it last whilst some like to update and update their rigs with cheaper stuff.

 

[rwh]

So, where are these multiple-socket AMD motherboards and the GPU I can drop into them?

I am sorry but, I can not see AMD Killing there own sales by making a grafix card that bottles there top of the line Quad core processors. I just can't see it happening like that. We will know for sure soon enough, but if what your saying is true, then AMD will kill there Top end CPU sales, and help out Intel with the sales of their Top end Quads. I just don't see it happening like that, LOL

 

[masterasia]

You need an i7 to show off at LAN parties. All the geeky girls there love guys with i7s. Those geeky girls are hot.

 

[redblade_88]

If you want to brag a highscore in benchmark tests say for example everest then an overclocked i7 and nice supercooling will do the job. cheers ^^

 

[fazers_on_stun]

You need an i7 to show off at LAN parties. All the geeky girls there love guys with i7s. Those geeky girls are hot.

LOL - while I'd agree the booth babes at CES, etc are hot, I'd hafta say hot yet geeky girls at LAN parties are about 0% of the population 😀.

 

[medjohnson77]

^^^^+1 :lol:

Depends, some people like to buy one high end and make it last whilst some like to update and update their rigs with cheaper stuff.

I can understand people wanting to not have to upgrade their rigs all the time, however, with my setup, a Phenom II 940 at 3.6ghz I have not felt the need to upgrade yet because it performs very well. In gaming I don't think I will see in major gangs by upgrading CPU, AMD products or Intel for that matter. If someone has the money for I7 build, the 920, I would say go for it, but seeing any huge real world improvements other then bench marks and some encoding software on the I7 vs the Phenom II's just isn't going happen. Both Phenom II's and I7 920 are a great product, I m sure which ever the OPs friend goes with he will be happy.

 

[medjohnson77]

So, where are these multiple-socket AMD motherboards and the GPU I can drop into them?

Who said anything about or claiming multiple-socket AMD motherboards? Not sure what you mean and where your going with that?

 

[amdfangirl]

Multi-sckts? Ypu mean server/workstation boards?

 

[LolwatMan]

IMO, I doubt anybody ever needs a CPU, at least not in the same sense as, say, a heart transplant for a congestive heart failure patient 😀.

It really comes down to how much you have to spend vs. how you're going to use it. If you're just gaming, maybe the i5 might make more sense, or a P2 for that matter. But I guess bragging rights have to factor in there a bit, at least for some. OTOH, when you die you can't take your $$ with you, so might as well blow it on something good ...

Eh, I'm going to get an i7 mainly for bragging rights 😛