When is the GTX 800 Series release date?

[Aphala]

still none new 8-series on market?? 🙁 will it be this year at all??

It has been delayed until 2015 circa June I think due to manufacturing issues with TSMC being unable to make industry standard 20NM wafer. I would just get a high end 780/780ti/Titan/R9290X and sell it when the 880/9XX arrives or wait until they make a 880ti circa November/December or 2016

and do you have some official statement for this??

high end is out of my budget and worthless for 6core AMD@4.5GHz,
my current 560Ti's warranty will be over in some june-july so Ill buy some lovely 760-770. Any recommendations which brand and version?? will overclock it so need cooler with VRM and memory heatsinks

http://www.techspot.com/news/56481-20nm-gpus-unlikely-in-2014-due-to-tsmc-issues.html

EVGA or MSI EVGA preferably since they really push the cards MSI are also pretty good for limit breaking clock speeds.

 

[Dnaangel]

still none new 8-series on market?? 🙁 will it be this year at all??

It has been delayed until 2015 circa June I think due to manufacturing issues with TSMC being unable to make industry standard 20NM wafer. I would just get a high end 780/780ti/Titan/R9290X and sell it when the 880/9XX arrives or wait until they make a 880ti circa November/December or 2016

and do you have some official statement for this??

high end is out of my budget and worthless for 6core AMD@4.5GHz,
my current 560Ti's warranty will be over in some june-july so Ill buy some lovely 760-770. Any recommendations which brand and version?? will overclock it so need cooler with VRM and memory heatsinks

All companies are toning it back this release cycle. Even Intel isn't releasing Broadwell based CPU's till Q4 of this year or Q1 2015. In the meantime they released some new Haswells like the 4790 to tie the market over. AMD went on record back in November, stating that they are seizing operations on all desktop CPU's for the foreseeable future and will only be producing Desktop/Mobile APU's and some Server Opterons at least for the next 3-5 years. This means no FX Steamroller/Excavator's. AMD is on the verge of complete bankruptcy so don't expect anything drastically large coming from that camp in the near future if at all.

I agree with other posts and Nvidia is feeling the hits as well and have held off on GTX 750/760 Ti's being released to give them something to tie the market over till Maxwell is released, though technically it already has been as the GTX 750 is based on the Maxwell architecture. I think the Ti's will be released sometime towards the end of the summer.

If you are in the market to upgrade, I say just go ahead and do it. You wont really see anything worthwhile till 2015. I am personally holding back period, for the 8 physical cored Haswell E's, X99 Chipset and DDR4 ram to hit sometime 2015.

 

[Diwiak]

finaly really helpful answer by Dnaangel,

few avaited titles which Iam looking for are announced in late 2014 (DAI, FC4, maybe GTA V PC), waiting till my 560Ti's warranty will be over to sell it (used-ones 560Tis are still selling good), and then will update to some 760,

760Ti sounds more interesting, if it will set price somewhere between 760 to 770, and overclocked performance will be reaching 770, it could be really siginifcant choice, but, it have to come first (if so)

check this video

 

[judice138]

It was planned for the 2nd quarter of 2014, but there were some problems with the manufacturing of the 20nm chipset. The new 700 series i.e. 750ti are maxwell but not 20nm. Now it has been pushed back to Q1 of 2015.

http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/21159/20140505/gtx-800-series-news.htm

 

[mr91]

The TITAN Z has been officially released on the Nvidia website.

 

[ERIC J]

The sli 780ti's are freaking amazing lol. Bf4 maxed out with 150% res scale and still getting over 120fps looks so amazing on my asus vg278he

thats is just plain sick! so much for feeling good about getting my first 780! LOL!

 

[Aphala]

The TITAN Z has been officially released on the Nvidia website.

It's not even worth the money, you could just get two 780ti's or even two R9 295X2's for that card. ALSO it's a workstation geared card for high res CAD/3D modeling. Who ever buys this for gaming needs a slap even 4k Wouldn't use 12gb of VRam maybe 3 4k monitors and even then the card would struggle.

 

[mr91]

$3000 dollars is certainly a lot of money however I'm sure it will sell.

I read that the Nvidia CEO said That people buying this card are not concerned about the money and will probably upgrade in a year.

I agree with him, If money wasn't a concern I would buy this card and than upgrade to Maxwell next year.

Why do people buy McLaren's and other exotic cars?

Hopefully Tomshardware will do a review about this card soon.

 

[renz496]

^ if any reviewer site wants to review Titan Z most likely they have to buy the card themselves (which is unlikely given how expensive Titan Z is) or wait some kind of good will of board partner to lend them one so they can review the card. as far as i know nvidia did not send any review unit to any tech sites that usually do gpu review at launch. IMO nvidia did shoot themselves in the foot when they announce Titan Z price will be 3k before AMD did with their 295x2. so i think they just launch the card as it is without much fanfare and forget about it (like what happen to 590). personally i hope nvidia will concentrate more on delivering Maxwell rather than fighting with AMD for the "fastest gpu on the planet" with their aging Kepler. For AMD part they were quite desperate to have the title (it is nice to have for marketing reason) for them that's why they came up with that 500w power hungry monster.

 

[mr91]

Makes sense! I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia is working on a Non Titan Dual GPU card for 2k that is faster than the Titan Z for gaming.

 

[Danielm888]

I suppose the whole GTX 800 series is a slight problem for some people mainly because no one wants to purchase a expensive card very close to the end of its product cycle only to have the new series release.

I suppose Im sort of in the same boat, I have 7970 and was looking at a 780 or 780 ti but Im thinking I'll just make do for now. Theres alot of crazy tech coming late this year or very early next year about 6-8 months with X99, 8 core CPU's, DDR4, 20nm GPU's and a very nice looking world first Corsair RGB keyboard + some new pc cases.

If the foundries had their shit together we may have gotten Maxwell in Q4 but yeah major problems with that so I'm agreeing with the Feb-March 2015 reports. If we're lucky we may see a high end card released from AMD & Nvidia around November this year like they did with the 780ti and 290x but thats looking unlikely but still possible as they will be looking to generate Christmas sales.

I would say if you cant wait buy a 780 or something they've got 6-8 months left and sell it when 800 series hits. You'll probably lose around $250-$300 when you sell it but you get 6-8 months of use from it or you can keep it and get another for SLI if the prices drop further because of the 800 series.
Hope this helps.

 

[bryjoered]

The main issue right now is that the cards just simply don't have enough VRAM for the games that have been coming out. Even with the 780/780ti coming with 3gb it simply isn't enough at higher resolutions and antialiasing, even at 1080p for some games. If you're going to buy a card right now, get one with at least 4gb of VRAM. At the high end I think really only the Titan Black is worth it right now, the sweet spot is the GTX 770 4gb. AMD cards typically come with more VRAM. I fully expect the 800 series to have 8gb of VRAM. The issue is that the developers are using the new console's huge vram capacities to make up for their general lack of pure processing power, in comparison to modern high end GPUS. DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT buy a 780 with 3gb of ram right now!

A perfect example is Watch Dogs, which uses over 3gb of VRAM at ultra texture settings, and that's even before you crank up the MSAA. There is a clear and noticeable difference between high and ultra textures as well. Another example is Titanfall, while looking like a turd the majority of the time uses a huge amount of VRAM. COD Ghosts does as well and even the new Wolfenstein. It's a disturbing trend, that even a graphics card like the 780ti can't max new games because of limited VRAM.

Waiting for the 800 series would at least assure you that you wouldn't be lacking in the VRAM department for awhile, I would even opt for the higher end VRAM card out of the 800 series. Getting the 2gb 670 last year turned out to be a bad decision, always go for the max VRAM. Sure, you don't technically "need" it, but it could add a lot of longevity to your card.

 

[Danielm888]

Your point about 3GB of VRAM being low is totally valid. Why they couldn't make a 780 ti or 780 with 4GB ? is beyond me although they do have a 6GB 780 but no increased VRAM on 780 ti still very low 3GB.

The Nvidia sales team seem to have intentionally made their cards with low VRAM to force people to upgrade when modern games are now using more than 3GB VRAM it forces people to want to add additional cards to max out their game at very high resolution and ultra settings. Very clever by Nvida to generate as much money as possible.

 

[bryjoered]

Your point about 3GB of VRAM being low is totally valid. Why they couldn't make a 780 ti or 780 with 4GB ? is beyond me although they do have a 6GB 780 but no increased VRAM on 780 ti still very low 3GB.

The Nvidia sales team seem to have intentionally made their cards with low VRAM to force people to upgrade when modern games are now using more than 3GB VRAM it forces people to want to add additional cards to max out their game at very high resolution and ultra settings. Very clever by Nvida to generate as much money as possible.

Yep, and people like me or even worse someone that purchased the 780ti is stuck with a card with way more power than a modern console, but about the same visuals due to not being able to increase antialiasing and textures. If you need a card now you are stuck between a rock and a hard place, you can either get the 4gb 770 and maybe not have enough VRAM for titles coming as soon as next year or you can drop 1200 dollars on a Titan Black, which is a ridiculous amount of money for most gamers.

 

[mr91]

The main issue right now is that the cards just simply don't have enough VRAM for the games that have been coming out. Even with the 780/780ti coming with 3gb it simply isn't enough at higher resolutions and antialiasing, even at 1080p for some games. If you're going to buy a card right now, get one with at least 4gb of VRAM. At the high end I think really only the Titan Black is worth it right now, the sweet spot is the GTX 770 4gb. AMD cards typically come with more VRAM. I fully expect the 800 series to have 8gb of VRAM. The issue is that the developers are using the new console's huge vram capacities to make up for their general lack of pure processing power, in comparison to modern high end GPUS. DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT buy a 780 with 3gb of ram right now!

A perfect example is Watch Dogs, which uses over 3gb of VRAM at ultra texture settings, and that's even before you crank up the MSAA. There is a clear and noticeable difference between high and ultra textures as well. Another example is Titanfall, while looking like a turd the majority of the time uses a huge amount of VRAM. COD Ghosts does as well and even the new Wolfenstein. It's a disturbing trend, that even a graphics card like the 780ti can't max new games because of limited VRAM.

Waiting for the 800 series would at least assure you that you wouldn't be lacking in the VRAM department for awhile, I would even opt for the higher end VRAM card out of the 800 series. Getting the 2gb 670 last year turned out to be a bad decision, always go for the max VRAM. Sure, you don't technically "need" it, but it could add a lot of longevity to your card.

3 GB of VRAM is certainly not ideal however the picture you are painting is not entirely correct in my opinion.

For 1080p 3 GB of VRAM is enough in my opinion, I have never encountered any VRAM challenges at this resolution

except for watch dogs.

I've never read a article claiming that 3gb is not enough except for watch dogs.

Watch dogs is the first title maxes out or exceeds the 3 GB Frame buffer @ 1080p with extreme settings.

Even when all the VRAM isn't used stuttering occurs however this is reduced when playing in offline mode.

Ubisoft will release a Patch and work with Nvidia and AMD to resolve these problems.

People with Titan blacks experienced Lag with this game and a patch is on the way

AC4 had problems in the beginning when PhsyX was introduced and now it's very smoothly with powerful hardware.

The reason for these problem is because ubisoft was overwhelmed with the multi platform launch and it seems they

were more focused on the console Architecture which has 8 gb of unified memory.
"Based on ubisofts statements"

COD ghosts also uses lots of VRAM however 3 gb is enough for the game @ 1080p.

COD ghosts is a console port that was never completely fixed beyond the 1080p resolution based on my testing.

I play both Titanfall and Wolfeistein @ 1440p maxed out and I'm fine with my 780 ti.

The 780 ti is incredible at both 1080p and 1440p.

The 780 is good too and provides an excellent experience at 1080p.

"EXTREM SITUATIONS BELOW"

The Challenge with 3gb of VRAM is when you want to play Bf4 @ 1440p with 150+ scaling in SLI to give you one example.

Playing games at 4k will also present a challenges with a 3 gb frame buffer in some games

 

[mr91]

Your point about 3GB of VRAM being low is totally valid. Why they couldn't make a 780 ti or 780 with 4GB ? is beyond me although they do have a 6GB 780 but no increased VRAM on 780 ti still very low 3GB.

The Nvidia sales team seem to have intentionally made their cards with low VRAM to force people to upgrade when modern games are now using more than 3GB VRAM it forces people to want to add additional cards to max out their game at very high resolution and ultra settings. Very clever by Nvida to generate as much money as possible.

The memory architecture is the reason why the 780 and 780 ti only have 3 gb of memory.

The next step beyond 3gb is 6gb, I suggest you do your research about the memory interface.

 

[mr91]

Your point about 3GB of VRAM being low is totally valid. Why they couldn't make a 780 ti or 780 with 4GB ? is beyond me although they do have a 6GB 780 but no increased VRAM on 780 ti still very low 3GB.

The Nvidia sales team seem to have intentionally made their cards with low VRAM to force people to upgrade when modern games are now using more than 3GB VRAM it forces people to want to add additional cards to max out their game at very high resolution and ultra settings. Very clever by Nvida to generate as much money as possible.

Yep, and people like me or even worse someone that purchased the 780ti is stuck with a card with way more power than a modern console, but about the same visuals due to not being able to increase antialiasing and textures. If you need a card now you are stuck between a rock and a hard place, you can either get the 4gb 770 and maybe not have enough VRAM for titles coming as soon as next year or you can drop 1200 dollars on a Titan Black, which is a ridiculous amount of money for most gamers.

I disagree! I'm very happy with my 780 ti and I will probably need to upgrade in a year to Maxwell for an optimal gaming experience for some new AAA titles being a gaming enthusiast is not a cheap hobby unfortunately.

 

[ERIC J]

The memory architecture is the reason why the 780 and 780 ti only have 3 gb of memory.

The next step beyond 3gb is 6gb, I suggest you do your research about the memory interface.

EVGA makes two gtx 780's with 6g's of ram
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-3785-KR
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-3787-KR

 

[bryjoered]

Your point about 3GB of VRAM being low is totally valid. Why they couldn't make a 780 ti or 780 with 4GB ? is beyond me although they do have a 6GB 780 but no increased VRAM on 780 ti still very low 3GB.

The 70th is great but to be hitting it's vram limit in any game poorly optimized or not is a problem and it's only going to get worse.

The Nvidia sales team seem to have intentionally made their cards with low VRAM to force people to upgrade when modern games are now using more than 3GB VRAM it forces people to want to add additional cards to max out their game at very high resolution and ultra settings. Very clever by Nvida to generate as much money as possible.

Yep, and people like me or even worse someone that purchased the 780ti is stuck with a card with way more power than a modern console, but about the same visuals due to not being able to increase antialiasing and textures. If you need a card now you are stuck between a rock and a hard place, you can either get the 4gb 770 and maybe not have enough VRAM for titles coming as soon as next year or you can drop 1200 dollars on a Titan Black, which is a ridiculous amount of money for most gamers.

I disagree! I'm very happy with my 780 ti and I will probably need to upgrade in a year to Maxwell for an optimal gaming experience for some new AAA titles being a gaming enthusiast is not a cheap hobby unfortunately.

 

[bryjoered]

I never said the 780 ti isn't a good card it's a great card. But the vram is a problem now and will continue to be a problem in the future. Especially gaming over 1080p. It doesn't matter how much power you have if you're maxing vram. Watch dogs being unomptimized is irrelevant. The problem is only going to become worse with time.
For an 800 dollar card to be limited by anything at 1080p is bad. If you bought the card that is fine and it will last you for a long time. I'm just not recommending picking up a 3GB card at this point. Even though the 780ti will be more than powerful enough for games for years to come the vram WILL limit texture quality and antialiasing settimgs. Mark my words.

 

[mr91]

In most cases the VRAM is not a problem @ 1440p for a single card - I'm speaking from experience, I monitor my VRAM usage and play many of the new AAA titles on a 1440p monitor...

Can you name a few titles that would be effected by lack of VRAM @ 1440P?

BF4 @ 1440p with ultra settings + 200% scaling is not an example because a single gtx 780 ti wouldn't have enough power anyways even with 12 gb of vram.

Your point is the reason why I wouldn't consider 2x 780 ti's in SLI however it doesn't really effect a single card configuration @ this point.

2x 780's or 780 ti's would be nice for someone that has a 144 hz 1080p monitor.

3 GB of vram is already limiting my Antialiasing settings however even if I had the Vram I have no interest in Playing bf4 with 200 resolution scaling and averaging 30 fps and inferior gameplay " this is a guess"

I would rather play the game on ultra with 4x msaa @ 1440p and get smoother gameplay.

In one year I wil probably upgrade to Maxwell, many enthusiast upgrade on a yearly basis, the Nvidia CEO know what he is talking about.

 

[mr91]

This all depends on the games people play because if you're a fan of AC4 2x 780 ti will allow you to max out the game at 1440p.
I turn down the settings because if I fully max out the settings my game play isn't as smooth however the game still looks great!

 

[bryjoered]

Yes, the 780 ti right now is not really bottlenecked by it's VRAM in most titles. I used to run BF4 ultra on my 670 2gb and it would max out at about 1900mb I thought I was ok until I read that the game used about 2000-2400mb on ultra. That's why I was getting frame dips. I lowered texture quality to high and it was fine. I'm just saying if you were to buy a card right now with the hopes of playing games on mostly high some ultra for the next two years buying one with 3gb of VRAM is probably not the best option. Sure, enthusiasts upgrade every single year and that's fair enough, but for the purpose of longevity you're going to want a card that can max out texture quality. Texture quality, is often one of the biggest determinants of overall picture quality in a game. I think along with antialiasing, it makes the biggest noticeable difference during gameplay. I would lower settings like shadow quality and ambient occlusion before I touched antialiasing or texture quality in most games.

The reason I recommended the 770 4gb is because the x70 is almost always best bang for buck, a factory overclocked 770 is essentially a slightly less powerful 780. I can guarantee it will still run games on good settings possibly even until the 900 series comes around. At a price point of $400 dollars, you could buy another for SLI pretty easily and crush a 780ti or you could just buy a 870 or 970 for $400 dollars when they come out.

 

[mr91]

Below is a text book example of the benefits of extra VRam.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/watch-dogs-grap...

Below are negative effects when there is a lack of VRAM. "From the Nvidia Guide under textures"

The caveat is that you’ll require a GPU with 3GB of VRAM to play with maximum-detail textures enabled, without encountering stutters. On cards with less than 3GB of VRAM, previously used textures will be removed frequently from memory to make way for those visible on the path ahead. This can result in hitching, stuttering, and even temporary pauses if other system-related bottlenecks are encountered during the process. To minimize the potential consequences of using less than 3GB of VRAM, we recommend that you load the game onto a SSD and refrain from using MSAA and TXAA hardware anti-aliasing modes, which consume VRAM, reducing the amount available for textures.

If stuttering does occur and detracts from your experience, the 2GB ‘High’ setting is instead recommended. At first glance, texture fidelity appears unchanged. Looking closer, however, reveals moderately blurred text on surfaces, a reduction of the number of unique textures on surfaces, and finer details like the grooved material of Aiden’s hoodie being lost. During gameplay, these quality changes will likely go unnoticed, so if you are struggling with stutters High is definitely recommended

 

[sinverguenzap]

In the near to distant future.

Man..that is pretty vague. Any estimate of a timeframe?

I would imagine you'll start to see them in mid to late July, the 880's will release first, then the 870's, and then the extreme versions of both will follow. I've heard that the 880 GTX will in fact be 20nm tech, with a 4gb Vram(8gb Vram models will release later on) and a 256bit bus. I would of liked to see a 384 bit bus in the 880GTX but as we know from previous 680/670's a 256bit bus works quite well.

Excuse me, if the graphic has a 256-bit buffer can not have 4 gb....o 3GB or 6GB. From which the information you published?