Which processor to buy?

[Torring]

Hello everyone, I am uncertain which take between a processor Intel Pentium G3258 and an AMD A8 7600, I want to play cs go, minecraft and peyday 2, I'm not going to buy an Expander Module dedicated graphics, then I will play with the integrated.

 

[computertech82]

Most integrated video cards are NOT good for gaming. SERIOUSLY. look up the benchmarks. I would strongly suggest at least a ATI 5770/6770/7770 or similar video card.

 

[Torring]

Most integrated video cards are NOT good for gaming. SERIOUSLY. look up the benchmarks. I would strongly suggest at least a ATI 5770/6770/7770 or similar video card.

I have the money to buy the right motherboard, RAM and processor, to buy a new video card no.

 

[whitehatguy]

Pick the A8, or ideally an A10-7850K or A10-7700K. The iGPU on the Pentium might be enough, but APUs are known to have much better graphics for the most part. The A10 also offers better threaded performance, which might help with Minecraft especially if you are running a server. Honestly, though, you don't need much power for those, though you probably will see a difference between the two.

 

[Torring]

Pick the A8, or ideally an A10-7850K or A10-7700K. The iGPU on the Pentium might be enough, but APUs are known to have much better graphics for the most part. The A10 also offers better threaded performance, which might help with Minecraft especially if you are running a server. Honestly, though, you don't need much power for those, though you probably will see a difference between the two.

Thank you, will buy the a8 7600, I can not buy the A10 because I have enough money. I saw on youtube that the pentium g3258 on cs go is 30-60 fps and minecraft 60-80 fps, how many fps will make the amd a8 7600 on minecraft, cs go and payday 2?

 

[Torring]

Pick the A8, or ideally an A10-7850K or A10-7700K. The iGPU on the Pentium might be enough, but APUs are known to have much better graphics for the most part. The A10 also offers better threaded performance, which might help with Minecraft especially if you are running a server. Honestly, though, you don't need much power for those, though you probably will see a difference between the two.

Thank you, will buy the a8 7600, I can not buy the A10 because I have enough money. I saw on youtube that the pentium g3258 on cs go is 30-60 fps and minecraft 60-80 fps, how many fps will make the amd a8 7600 on minecraft, cs go and payday 2?

 

[Torring]

Pick the A8, or ideally an A10-7850K or A10-7700K. The iGPU on the Pentium might be enough, but APUs are known to have much better graphics for the most part. The A10 also offers better threaded performance, which might help with Minecraft especially if you are running a server. Honestly, though, you don't need much power for those, though you probably will see a difference between the two.

Thank you, will buy the a8 7600, I can not buy the A10 because I have enough money. I saw on youtube that the pentium g3258 on cs go is 30-60 fps and minecraft 60-80 fps, how many fps will make the amd a8 7600 on minecraft, cs go and payday 2?

 

[Karadjgne]

Go with the APU. Intel integrated graphics (igpu) are miserable. For maximum performance with an AMD APU, you want to pair it with 2133MHz ram. You'll get much better graphics for almost the same price as 1600.

 

[Torring]

Go with the APU. Intel integrated graphics (igpu) are miserable. For maximum performance with an AMD APU, you want to pair it with 2133MHz ram. You'll get much better graphics for almost the same price as 1600.

I buy a ram at 1866 MHz, right?

 

[Karadjgne]

2133 MHz, not 1866 MHz. APU's are not like dedicated graphics video cards, they have no 2Gb or 4Gb memory, so an igpu/APU uses the pc memory instead. Because of this, the faster your memory, the better it works, much like when people overclock their cpu. Using 2133MHz RAM would be like using overclocked 1866MHz, and 1600-1866-2133 are all around the same price. There is a limit though, while 2133 is almost double performance of 1600, 2400 is only a few % better than 2133 and costs a lot more, so 2133MHz RAM is best for an APU

 

[Torring]

2133 MHz, not 1866 MHz. APU's are not like dedicated graphics video cards, they have no 2Gb or 4Gb memory, so an igpu/APU uses the pc memory instead. Because of this, the faster your memory, the better it works, much like when people overclock their cpu. Using 2133MHz RAM would be like using overclocked 1866MHz, and 1600-1866-2133 are all around the same price. There is a limit though, while 2133 is almost double performance of 1600, 2400 is only a few % better than 2133 and costs a lot more, so 2133MHz RAM is best for an APU

I got it, thanks, now I want to know how many fps makes me the AMD A8 7600 on minecraft, payday 2 and cs go. I would also play battlefiled 3, is make it to turn out well?

 

[Karadjgne]

Cant say. A lot depends on your detail settings, physX usage, Anti-Aliasing, shadows etc. Minecraft is so simple, you shouldn't have any problems seeing 40-60 fps, cs:go bf3 should be 30+

 

[Torring]

Cant say. A lot depends on your detail settings, physX usage, Anti-Aliasing, shadows etc. Minecraft is so simple, you shouldn't have any problems seeing 40-60 fps, cs:go bf3 should be 30+

I asked you why minecraft on pentium g3258 reaches 80 fps and cs go to 60.

 

[Karadjgne]

Because Intel cpu's are stronger on single thread performance than amd, and minecraft is a higher cpu usage game than gpu dependent. The g3258 is a dual core cpu that has such a low power requirement, that it can be easily overclocked and still not reach the power requirements of some quad/hexa/octo core cpus. OC on that particular pentium is the only way it keeps up with the stronger cpus, but being dual core it is limited to basically only single thread designed games like minecraft or skyrim, but really starts to suffer on multi-core games like Battlefield, FarCry, GTA-V etc. So while you will see good fps in a few games with the g3258, the rest will suck. This is where the amd A8 is better. It may be a little slower, it might have less thread performance per core, but it is not limited by thread count so is about equal in every game.

Those fps numbers were probably also from a g3258 that's been OC'd to @ 4.5GHz, and a corresponding igpu frequency boost and/or high speed/OC'd ram. You'll not see 60fps on an Intel igpu in cs:go any other way. Minecraft is also quirky, stock is easy to get super high fps, even at max settings, but add in some mega-mods and you'll see that number drop drastically as the cpu starts to get overloaded with data.

 

[Torring]

Because Intel cpu's are stronger on single thread performance than amd, and minecraft is a higher cpu usage game than gpu dependent. The g3258 is a dual core cpu that has such a low power requirement, that it can be easily overclocked and still not reach the power requirements of some quad/hexa/octo core cpus. OC on that particular pentium is the only way it keeps up with the stronger cpus, but being dual core it is limited to basically only single thread designed games like minecraft or skyrim, but really starts to suffer on multi-core games like Battlefield, FarCry, GTA-V etc. So while you will see good fps in a few games with the g3258, the rest will suck. This is where the amd A8 is better. It may be a little slower, it might have less thread performance per core, but it is not limited by thread count so is about equal in every game.

Those fps numbers were probably also from a g3258 that's been OC'd to @ 4.5GHz, and a corresponding igpu frequency boost and/or high speed/OC'd ram. You'll not see 60fps on an Intel igpu in cs:go any other way. Minecraft is also quirky, stock is easy to get super high fps, even at max settings, but add in some mega-mods and you'll see that number drop drastically as the cpu starts to get overloaded with data.

Thanks a lot, I will buy the AMD A8 7600, I also play gta 5, how many fps will make me? I just opened a YouTube channel, then will upload video and with the passage of time will edit them, I do not know if you fit the amd.

 

[Karadjgne]

Cant say what fps for GTA-V, every pc is different. Your settings, ram, cpu speed is not the same as mine or many others, so your fps in any game will be different to others. You could maybe find someone who has same cpu, same ram but higher fps because he has lower settings, or someone else who has same cpu and same settings but much lower fps because his ram is 1600MHz.

Without a decent dedicated gpu, even the best igpu will have worse frames, so if you ever do manage to save enough to buy a dedicated gpu, just make sure it is stronger than the igpu you currently have. There are quite a few very cheap gpus that are actually worse than the amd A8 igpu.

 

[Torring]

Cant say what fps for GTA-V, every pc is different. Your settings, ram, cpu speed is not the same as mine or many others, so your fps in any game will be different to others. You could maybe find someone who has same cpu, same ram but higher fps because he has lower settings, or someone else who has same cpu and same settings but much lower fps because his ram is 1600MHz.

Without a decent dedicated gpu, even the best igpu will have worse frames, so if you ever do manage to save enough to buy a dedicated gpu, just make sure it is stronger than the igpu you currently have. There are quite a few very cheap gpus that are actually worse than the amd A8 igpu.

For now I'll stay with the integrated graphics processor in the, in the future I do not know if it will buy another. For video editing is good?

 

[Karadjgne]

The a8 will be better for video editing than the g3258, more cores. But video editing is all about the cpu and ssd/hdd and almost nothing on the gpu.

 

[Torring]

The a8 will be better for video editing than the g3258, more cores. But video editing is all about the cpu and ssd/hdd and almost nothing on the gpu.

OK thanks. Now I ask a question a little off topic, I decree my new youtube channel today, I would like to put a logo on my channel, you know someone?

 

[Karadjgne]

Nope, not a clue. Good luck though.

 

[Torring]

Nope, not a clue. Good luck though.

Pity. Thank you so much for helping me brother, problem solved, thanks.