Question Which system to buy?

[graywolfthegreat]

I need to figure out what system I need that could be upgraded over time. Like buying a cheap budget gaming rig and upgrade from there. I got a budget of 135 to 200 and I need to know what rig is going to be good in the long run?

 

[rgd1101]

with the limited budget. it is depend on what you can find on ebay

 

[Lafong]

I got a budget of 135 to 200 and I need to know what rig is going to be good in the long run?

135 to 200 US dollars?

For what parts specifically?

A full "system", as you put it?

 

[graywolfthegreat]

135 to 200 US dollars?

For what parts specifically?

A full "system", as you put it?

Well I have a limited income. And I just want a computer that can be upgraded. Is there a spefic one off of ebay/amazon I can buy that would be a good starter?

 

[graywolfthegreat]

Dell Optiplex 790 i7-2600 3.40GHz 16GB Windows 10 256Gb SSD+HDD GPU WIFI
This is what I am talking about. Something to upgrade over time

 

[Lafong]

Dell Optiplex 790 i7-2600 3.40GHz 16GB Windows 10 256Gb SSD+HDD GPU WIFI
This is what I am talking about. Something to upgrade over time

The 2600 was a legendary CPU, but that was what....12 or 15 years ago?

That entire machine and all of its parts are likely that old. If a major part fails, fixing it would likely be good money after bad.

It likely has a proprietary case and power supply. Difficult to deal with. Maybe motherboard too.

You could get lucky and it would last for 10 years....and for all I know it is powerful enough to run certain games that you need.

Can you add 25 dollars a month to that 200 budget or do you have to buy SOMETHING quite soon?

 

[rgd1101]

a 2nd hard playstation or xbox probably work better

 

[Eximo]

Actually kind of found one:

Ryzen 2200G custom PC, $210 or best offer.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2354598671...jHYlMXvHzKSRIlQQDxcR+X7g==|tkp:Bk9SR5zZmOrMYw

Slow memory that could be upgraded, there are a few CPU generations it could be upgraded to, and at some point you can add a lower end GPU.

 

[graywolfthegreat]

The 2600 was a legendary CPU, but that was what....12 or 15 years ago?

That entire machine and all of its parts are likely that old. If a major part fails, fixing it would likely be good money after bad.

It likely has a proprietary case and power supply. Difficult to deal with. Maybe motherboard too.

You could get lucky and it would last for 10 years....and for all I know it is powerful enough to run certain games that you need.

Can you add 25 dollars a month to that 200 budget or do you have to buy SOMETHING quite soon?

I got 135 right now, but I get paid so I can add like 120 to that.

 

[Eximo]

I would check your local classifieds, craigslist, or facebook marketplace for potential options you could pick up locally. Shipping computers is generally expensive. Refurbishers get away with it with bulk discounts.

Shouldn't be too hard to find someone selling at least the core components for an AM4 based build.

 

[graywolfthegreat]

Thank you guys for all the help. I got a lot to consider now, I apperciate it.

 

[graywolfthegreat]

I got one more question. I have a HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF right now, I use it for Light to almost Medium games on it. Should I just stick with this and add a GPU to it? Its a i5 3470, 16 GB RAM, GTX 1030, 240 PSU and has 1TB of SSD. I'm wanting something new and can upgrade but all this extra stuff is kinda confusing and expensive.

 

[helper800]

I got one more question. I have a HP Compaq Elite 8300 SFF right now, I use it for Light to almost Medium games on it. Should I just stick with this and add a GPU to it? Its a i5 3470, 16 GB RAM, GTX 1030, 240 PSU and has 1TB of SSD. I'm wanting something new and can upgrade but all this extra stuff is kinda confusing and expensive.

If you want to have a good budget PC in your price range you either need the knowledge and experience to find good used configurations or a higher budget to get modern parts to start a build. We here can help differentiate between good used builds for you, just keep posting the options available to you. The next option would be to get a used console if the games you want to play are available on console.

 

[Eximo]

That is basically what you proposed buying earlier, except even older.

Aside from a very limited selection of GPU upgrades (these would be very expensive), that system is pretty much as good as it gets. i7-3770 would gain you a little in some games.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/326063109361?itmmeta=01HSKK4ARKMKQGDM86VP1TP7K6&hash=item4beae034f1:g:uZYAAOSw6mll~agn&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4NSd8MStbQhMcY%2FjGc4KX21bbs9bWb5FfgC31Lp%2Bt4tuMee8phQ4wVshbT637B9TI9%2B9vXge2fTs3c%2FJxFg4jVhqPBMJj1uDVy2ihyUYTN9je2cvVC%2BHepkWpK%2FOIC5V4dpve%2FAaEZNE6na5nq%2FhEftS9KR%2Fls2gEEbYBB6rWjJkqw%2F7d3a9LHCIv4k1T0SxQRwhcK5BoyzfAnMcuhQ%2FbHy%2FOhphOSpAY4jAVdGqdbSP%2FNNKtn19UC3zSBIRBZypG%2FGTi4v11GFnTOANuixM2NhugU83vyqmcSaVzkZZLI8%2B%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR66skfPMYw

GT1030 is a decent little low profile card.

RX550 low profile.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m7...rx-550-512-4-gb-video-card-axrx-550-4gbd5-hle

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374939717708?itmmeta=01HSKK8R8SSW6GRXJ4A844PN8J&hash=item574c26104c:g:N1UAAOSwcHZj1BQK&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4J5SWSjn6dGQS0DUOWVBiXqvw6cLEhBegjZ2Iu%2FGAE1l1aDqRFHCl9iKqvsDSdOjt%2F1dkcAlAaZjqGYvpMNavCF3YTF%2FWdM9Ju7nJ43eZw3vcgcjlj0qv8NKFLlHgdZ5cpcJ4A2wfvS2a01y%2B0Zbwsey6ymiBbBjVuOZzu7%2F7Yu3a5oXHSnUk5uUrnjrLoCm7yo%2FQbBBjrRUfW2Ot8iblm%2B4wOxjRWA2GvFnk95EFix%2FcWDMTqejwnDMz4fpXmXJyqRmcwyF0gtWNm3bf%2B8lfenTW3Tuk3OTESzI1dFfy%2FIz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8CEo_PMYw

RX6400, not ideal being a 4x card in an old system.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qm...-gb-pulse-low-profile-video-card-11315-01-20g

 

[graywolfthegreat]

That is basically what you proposed buying earlier, except even older.

Aside from a very limited selection of GPU upgrades (these would be very expensive), that system is pretty much as good as it gets. i7-3770 would gain you a little in some games.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/326063109361?itmmeta=01HSKK4ARKMKQGDM86VP1TP7K6&hash=item4beae034f1:g:uZYAAOSw6mll~agn&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4NSd8MStbQhMcY%2FjGc4KX21bbs9bWb5FfgC31Lp%2Bt4tuMee8phQ4wVshbT637B9TI9%2B9vXge2fTs3c%2FJxFg4jVhqPBMJj1uDVy2ihyUYTN9je2cvVC%2BHepkWpK%2FOIC5V4dpve%2FAaEZNE6na5nq%2FhEftS9KR%2Fls2gEEbYBB6rWjJkqw%2F7d3a9LHCIv4k1T0SxQRwhcK5BoyzfAnMcuhQ%2FbHy%2FOhphOSpAY4jAVdGqdbSP%2FNNKtn19UC3zSBIRBZypG%2FGTi4v11GFnTOANuixM2NhugU83vyqmcSaVzkZZLI8%2B%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR66skfPMYw

GT1030 is a decent little low profile card.

RX550 low profile.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m7...rx-550-512-4-gb-video-card-axrx-550-4gbd5-hle

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374939717708?itmmeta=01HSKK8R8SSW6GRXJ4A844PN8J&hash=item574c26104c:g:N1UAAOSwcHZj1BQK&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4J5SWSjn6dGQS0DUOWVBiXqvw6cLEhBegjZ2Iu%2FGAE1l1aDqRFHCl9iKqvsDSdOjt%2F1dkcAlAaZjqGYvpMNavCF3YTF%2FWdM9Ju7nJ43eZw3vcgcjlj0qv8NKFLlHgdZ5cpcJ4A2wfvS2a01y%2B0Zbwsey6ymiBbBjVuOZzu7%2F7Yu3a5oXHSnUk5uUrnjrLoCm7yo%2FQbBBjrRUfW2Ot8iblm%2B4wOxjRWA2GvFnk95EFix%2FcWDMTqejwnDMz4fpXmXJyqRmcwyF0gtWNm3bf%2B8lfenTW3Tuk3OTESzI1dFfy%2FIz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8CEo_PMYw

RX6400, not ideal being a 4x card in an old system.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qm...-gb-pulse-low-profile-video-card-11315-01-20g

Thats what I'm going to do. The CPU and GPU. That should boost my computer up, right?

 

[Eximo]

Not in a massive way no. Going from a quad core to a quad core with hyperthreading will help with more recent games, but the core CPU speed is essentially the same.

RX550 puts you up to 4GB of VRAM, which will help the most in newer games.

Anything beyond those upgrades is pretty much wasted money.

A full entry level gaming PC from all new parts will set you back around $500, so spending nearly $100 now puts you that much farther away.

As mentioned by helper800 and others, a used console really has more gaming value at this point.

 

[graywolfthegreat]

Can a better graphics card help? I had someone tell me before that I can upgrade to a 1050. I tried to get a x6400 but I don't have a good power supply for a 6400. Would a 1050 help?

 

[Eximo]

If you can find a low profile GTX1050 or 1050 Ti that doesn't require a 6-pin PCIe connector, yes, it would help in running games at say 1080p low/medium settings.

They are pretty expensive, even used because they are desirable for exactly your situation.

These don't include the low profile bracket though:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1666539510...OWk2F6yf7vc+W5pl8HG9RW1g==|tkp:Bk9SR5S63vXMYw

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1963023737...U7hnr7Hrfx8bX69N5saiEb09s7|tkp:Bk9SR7aZ9PXMYw

 

[graywolfthegreat]

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1050 2GB GDDR5 Low Profile Video Card GV-N1050OC-2GL
Should I get this card? It's a 2GB one. Cheapest I could find. I'm bidding on ebay for the two you showed me, Eximo. Is there a big difference between a 2GB VRAM and 4GB VRAM?

 

[graywolfthegreat]

If you can find a low profile GTX1050 or 1050 Ti that doesn't require a 6-pin PCIe connector, yes, it would help in running games at say 1080p low/medium settings.

They are pretty expensive, even used because they are desirable for exactly your situation.

These don't include the low profile bracket though:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166653951073?itmmeta=01HSKNQKKYT8630X01T41GRJ27&hash=item26cd597c61:g:bwQAAOSw8ARl6JOC&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAAwCuYkzHN20l8PI1HRI5kLowMgjbsSXGjKZ8Dwspmt97nAcC6q56FezVxNxFkinu16u3/C1IULi1bD/6MTfSt+NafRuXvbnIKEdgjk/wektQCWCAL0GpQ92e02pNanC0V0NM0pIDwmkc0dHsKIduRsEOOonwSgCTvgX5x6/ppgzg/IKydlLTjLQULvPcwwfSx+4VqjkjXCk8X65Y741aUHCFZd9YnnDrUJ8jrMZ2SG+OWk2F6yf7vc+W5pl8HG9RW1g==|tkp:Bk9SR5S63vXMYw

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196302373763?itmmeta=01HSKNX1JPQPZ2K7NM5HK3HDBB&hash=item2db4888383:g:4vEAAOSwmMRl-cbv&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA4DVV1O7xcagantAYAcBjX13wPbrqdmR8OOhwChSHciE0OhqHRWG/wJ84G+BaI0s/gbX3HMuhJtMHLVcPld93qR7rtMCCZL3zNms3pOBwPzAp/KXNZ0N93snwsyCvo2NEd1NYirclg7XVFsAgmoILePbZgHnAyKEeacAkdEK/hkixftXPCFTBXQ5hgG5Wj0UtuElBe0xSO44R79ywyAqGkUYRMuwMAXaLU33cx17TP/u/45rAUb5P57kjJ3daHx7ynvlxWOPWPa4cgPMVJOU7hnr7Hrfx8bX69N5saiEb09s7|tkp:Bk9SR7aZ9PXMYw

I won the auction for one of the cards you showed me. Thank you man for posting that. Good deal too 98 bucks.