why not koolance

[mike5221987]

i have been thinking about liquid cooling my comp and have been reading alot of the forums and in a bunch of them they down koolance why is that

 

[jaibot18]

unless if i am mistaken, they have sub par equipment and i believe that they sometimes use aluminum. Swiftec is hailed king of wc kits, if you want a kit. What is your budget?

 

[Silverion77]

The main problem with Koolance....stating what the components are.

Lately they havent been stating what is in their parts, so those using some fittings turned out to be steel and not nickel coated brass. Steel corrodes and rust was getting into ppls flows. Also some parts are aluminum which is bad for mixing with other copper components. If u get copper cpu block get a copper everything else.

I personally like Bitspower fittings. They are great quality

 

[Granite3]

I used Koolance full cover blocks on my 2 8800 GTX's, loved them, no issues whatsoever in `17 months of use, stripped em down and wiped em out every 6 months or so. Stock load from 88c to 61c, idle from 70c to 48 c.

Now have 2 full cover blocks on my GTX 260's, load is 60-63c, idle under 50c. (never used them on air)

Have not used them on cpu, have a swiftech apogee GT for it and a swifty 350 pump.

I do not use "kits", so I cannot comment on them in that arena, you can always build better on your own.

 

[baddad]

I've been using Koolance now for two years and have had no problems, note in the picture the compression fitting, I don't worry about leaks.

I have my machine setup in three sections supply, inter loop, and external radiator with fans note I'm using high flow quick disconnect fitting
to separate them.

 

[Conumdrum]

This is why I don't pay a lot of attention to inputs like this on this site. You go to real hardware sites with experianced WC folks and they swear off almost anythink Koolance. I will say they are getting better, but their performance vs cost vs trouble is crap.

The ONLY thing peeps are liking are there compression fittings, the 4870 GPU block (has BAD flow restriction), and their 90 fittings.

The rest is crap. And this thread will hurt more people than it will help.

To the Original Poster (OP). There goes a few $1000 in peeps money due to your post.

 

[Katamarino]

Conundrum; and why should the OP care? They're responsible for their own money 😛

 

[Conumdrum]

unless if i am mistaken, they have sub par equipment and i believe that they sometimes use aluminum. Swiftec is hailed king of wc kits, if you want a kit. What is your budget?

Not mistaken, but informed. Swiftech makes some good stuff, but not tops of the heap in everything.

Please refer to other forums and learn. This site isn't the all of everything, in fact, a lot of times it's more like a Radio Shack, if you ever been there and ask an employee a even the least of a technical question, you'll get a blank stare. You have to find experts to make the right choice.

I'll steer you to some more technical links, please spend a few days (DAYS) reading posts, searching, learning. Don't forget to look for your case with WC. Google your case and the word watercool or some combination of that. WC stuff is larger than you think, I know from experience. WC setups done right are awesome and almost silent.

Great place, not wayyy over the top with uber WC guys.
http://www.ocforums.com/index.php
Uber place, owned by one of the worlds winning OC guys in the world. Not a place to post or ask questions by noobs, but an awesome place to learn.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/
Another good place to learn
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/
The GURU of independent testing, worshipped by many.
http://www.martinsliquidlab.com/
Great places to buy WC stuff
http://www.dangerden.com/index.php [...] e&Itemid=1
http://www.petrastechshop.com/
http://www.jab-tech.com/

 

[Conumdrum]

I used Koolance full cover blocks on my 2 8800 GTX's, loved them, no issues whatsoever in `17 months of use, stripped em down and wiped em out every 6 months or so. Stock load from 88c to 61c, idle from 70c to 48 c.

Now have 2 full cover blocks on my GTX 260's, load is 60-63c, idle under 50c. (never used them on air)

Have not used them on cpu, have a swiftech apogee GT for it and a swifty 350 pump.

I do not use "kits", so I cannot comment on them in that arena, you can always build better on your own.

Man... Terrible temps. I run a OC E6600, NB at high voltage, and a GTX 280. My load temps while loading my GPU and CPU have never gone above 45 CPU 47 GPU.

I run a D5 vario pump
Thermochill 120.3
Fuzion V1 CPU block
Tieton GPU block
MCW30 NB block

Your blocks are not a bad option. BUT, t he flow rate is not near what a DD etc brand block is. And we (hopefully know that a flow rate below 1 GPM impacts inpingment of the flow= temps) meaning you.....

And talking temps really means very little unless we talk ambient, heat load/overclock,voltage mod, fans, rad mounting, etc etc. So it's down to science. To many your input may mean something. To me, since I have read and learned (meaning informed) means gibberish and is no help in this thread, like my input is.

 

[Conumdrum]

Conundrum; and why should the OP care? They're responsible for their own money 😛

Because we actually try to help. I'd rather a person stay on air than spend $100+ and fail. It hurts the WC community because the more do WC, the more peeps will make stuff, the more competition, lower cost, and better stuff for you and me.

 

[Katamarino]

"To the Original Poster (OP). There goes a few $1000 in peeps money due to your post."

Maybe I misunderstood your tone, but I'd imagine that him asking the question and getting answers here would help others make their decision, not throw away their money

 

[stoner133]

I have used Koolance products for over a year now and haven't had any problems at all. Just over one week ago I took my system completely apart in order to install a different brand motherboard. Not one sign of corrosion. I use all Koolance compression fittings and its never leaked. I cool two 4870's and my 6400+BE along with all of my system memory using all Koolance waterblocks. The system temp never climbs above 40c under load and idles anywhere between 28c and 30c depending on current room temp. There is a two degree difference between video cards, which should be expected since the system cools one then runs into the second. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from Koolance again.

 

[rubix_1011]

I think the above are all valid reasons for not using Koolance. I guess if you feel they make great products; super. I, for one, am not convinced that they reside anywhere above the mediocre category for WC.

Bigwater < Koolance < Swiftech/DangerDen

 

[mike5221987]

i respect everyones in put i have read all the other links that were on here and it seems to me that these sites are for hard core people they know what they are talking about but they are the kind of people that would put dog **** on there motherboard if they thought it would lower there temps. im looking for all around answers not just the best i dont realy care if my temps are 1 degree higher as long as i am happy with would i get. plus looks count to me to and i realy like the looks of koolances water blocks and so on. thank you all for reading and responding to my ?. by the way my budget is what ever it takes

 

[Silverion77]

If its w/e it takes than stay copper. It is much better than Aluminum counterparts and again some Koolance things have copper.

If u want a good H20 cooling u get a Dtek V2/Swiftech GTZ/or EK Supreme block, a nice MCP355 (Laing DDC 3.2 w/ aftermarket top) a nice res. (many like EK) and if doing gpu u need to decide on full cover (Aqua computers, EK is popular) or just gpu (swiftech MCW 60 or Dtek GFX v2)

Edit**: when u said "whatever it takes" i couldnt tell if u meant cheaper the better....my bad. I personally would get good parts to begin with....it seems silly to get parts that down the line ull WANT to replace. In that respect i mean Rad, pump, and res cause they dont change. If ur limited just do CPU and no gpu etc. things like that

 

[mike5221987]

no what i ment by what ever it takes i ment that if it takes 10 $ then great but if it takes 1000$+ then thats cool to i just want it to look good performe good and last for a long time

 

[Conumdrum]

Okay mike522xxxx.

Read the links I posted for a week or so, pay attention to all the stickies. become a member at a few of the forums, learn whats best for you. It's not like buying a new DVD player and hooking it to a TV. Read, learn, you can figure it out I'm sure.

 

[rubix_1011]

I will agree with just about everyone here...although I have a hard time saying 'go with koolance just because they look pretty'. To be honest, there are several other blocks (GPU especially) that are very clean looking. EK and DD make some good full cover blocks that perform better than koolance. Swiftech arguably makes some of the best GPU-only blocks provided you also add-in some RAM sinks. If cost is of no issue, I think you would be wise to look into alternatives to koolance...you will find they look great and peform better for the dollar.