Will a ryzen 5 1600 bottlneck with a 1080ti

[alihamad2003]

Will a ryzen 5 1600 bottlneck with a 1080ti At 1080p resolution at max details?
If so,suggest me a 200-250 dollar cpu that wont
Thanks

 

[alihamad2003]

That's a maybe on that last part, but it will long term be far better, and a much more suitable option given that with a 1080 Ti you should be aiming to go to 4k 60Hz or 1440p 144hz later when you can afford the upgrade anyway.

ok thanks!

 

[alihamad2003]

But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.

yeah for now,but im looking towards the future.Thanks anyways!!!!

 

[RobCrezz]

The guy has a 144hz 1080p monitor, dont you think he might be disapointed that the Ryzen 1600 isnt fast enough to give him 144fps in many games, even though his 1080 ti is fast enough? To me that is called a bottleneck.

 

[Lannister in the North]

If you're at 1080p 144hz the 7700k shouldn't even be a consideration, it's a high end chip.
Short term, yes it will perform better than Ryzen at 1080p.
Long term when you move onto higher resolutions?
The 1700 performs identically above 1080p to the 7700k give or take a few frames either way, and with higher thread utilization coming into play with newer engines and DX12, it seems silly to invest MORE into a CPU that while temporarily may give you better performance, will fall behind in future.

I forgot to add this at the start, but @OP's budget isn't really suitable for either a 7700k or a 1700 anyway, so I think its more a question of will the 1600 work, since it is still a very highly capable CPU, and can easily be OC'd well.

The point is, if you want to squeeze out every frame possible from that 1080Ti, you need a high end cpu, period.
I agree that Ryzen is more future proof, but it will depend heavily on the rate of adaptation and (very important) quality of implementation of vulkan/dx12 in future games.
So much depends on the developer now, you can see already that publishers push developers to cut corners to save money and make release targets, don't you think a good multithreading implementation won't be among the first things to get the axe even in the future?

That said, I can attest to most of my games having a significantly better minimum framerate and frametime variance since upgrading to ryzen 7 from i7 3770k.
So max and average framerate aren't much better, but there are less "hiccups" and gameplay feels a lot smoother overall.

edit: (monitor is 2560x1080p @ 144Hz)

 

[Chugalug_]

But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.

What's the deal with everyone saying Ryzen can't do high fps gaming?
I don't get what frame rate has to do with it, it's not like as the FPS count gets higher it gets harder to render frames, and clock speed can easily be OC'd to higher levels.

Edit: We run a Ryzen and Intel test system at the store for testing hardware etc. and both put out practically identical numbers in games at 1440p and 4k, in the former high fps results have no issue on Ryzen, so I don't know what the problem is...

 

[maxalge]

But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.

yeah for now,but im looking towards the future.Thanks anyways!!!!

XD they said the same thing for the 8350...

why would you take less performance?

by the time the future rolls around, everything today will be obsolete XD

 

[RobCrezz]

But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.

What's the deal with everyone saying Ryzen can't do high fps gaming?
I don't get what frame rate has to do with it, it's not like as the FPS count gets higher it gets harder to render frames, and clock speed can easily be OC'd to higher levels.

Edit: We run a Ryzen and Intel test system at the store for testing hardware etc. and both put out practically identical numbers in games at 1440p and 4k, in the former high fps results have no issue on Ryzen, so I don't know what the problem is...

Then why are you answering the question when you don't understand?

Sure at 4k and 1440p, the GPU becomes the bottleneck. At 1080p the CPU speed is more of a factor, and the ryzen cpus cannot work fast enough.


As I said, I would recommend Ryzen, but not for 1080 144hz gaming.

 

[Chugalug_]

The difference was the 8350 was a hot pile of sht with terrible IPC and performance, there was no question with multicore at that stage, quad cores were just starting to become common, that was AMD trying to sell based on specs alone more or less.
This is a different scenario with valid, easily seen application.
The 1600 is also fantastic for a CPU you want to keep in your system for a long time due to it's higher core count and solid IPC paired with potential for a good OC. In the price range there's no other option, that's all i'm gonna say for this thread.

 

[alihamad2003]

The guy has a 144hz 1080p monitor, dont you think he might be disapointed that the Ryzen 1600 isnt fast enough to give him 144fps in many games, even though his 1080 ti is fast enough? To me that is called a bottleneck.

But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.

What's the deal with everyone saying Ryzen can't do high fps gaming?
I don't get what frame rate has to do with it, it's not like as the FPS count gets higher it gets harder to render frames, and clock speed can easily be OC'd to higher levels.

Edit: We run a Ryzen and Intel test system at the store for testing hardware etc. and both put out practically identical numbers in games at 1440p and 4k, in the former high fps results have no issue on Ryzen, so I don't know what the problem is...

btw i think the 1700 is the best option.I have no problem going with higher prices.

 

[RobCrezz]

Heres a quick example:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-1700-cpu-review,review-33854-6.html

 

[alihamad2003]

Heres a quick example:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-1700-cpu-review,review-33854-6.html

what about games in the future?

 

[alihamad2003]

But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.

yeah for now,but im looking towards the future.Thanks anyways!!!!

XD they said the same thing for the 8350...

why would you take less performance?

by the time the future rolls around, everything today will be obsolete XD

i dont get ya,whats betetr in your opinion

 

[RobCrezz]

Heres a quick example:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-1700-cpu-review,review-33854-6.html

what about games in the future?

Hard to predict the future.

Dont get me wrong, Ryzen is a great choice, especially if you go to 1440p or 4k.

 

[alihamad2003]

Heres a quick example:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-1700-cpu-review,review-33854-6.html

what about games in the future?

Hard to predict the future.

Dont get me wrong, Ryzen is a great choice, especially if you go to 1440p or 4k.

i already said i have a 1080p monitor that i just bought (1 month ago)

 

[RobCrezz]

Heres a quick example:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-7-1700-cpu-review,review-33854-6.html

what about games in the future?

Hard to predict the future.

Dont get me wrong, Ryzen is a great choice, especially if you go to 1440p or 4k.

i already said i have a 1080p monitor that i just bought (1 month ago)

I know.. hence me posting and telling you that the 7700k is the best cpu for 1080 144hz gaming right now.

 

[david_p797979]

Completely new build.
A 1080 Ti will be fine maxed with your current monitor.
Stick with the RGB RAM if you want, but it's not a good use of money.
Sell your old PC for $250, carry over the HDD.
I agree with everything but the power supply. Depending on how you want to upgrade in the future I'd go 800watt or higher, I have almost same setup but use a 1200 Watt supply, the 650 I had caused issues with 2 monitors and wireless surround sound, 250 Watt alone is being used by the 1080 ti
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[n.t.borodjiev]

It most probably will bottleneck (if VSync is off, that is). This is not because the CPU is too weak for 1080p (it's perfectly fine for it, really), but because your GPU is very overpowered for this resolution.

At least get a 1440p monitor for a 1080 Ti.

Or 144hz monitor

 

[maxalge]

It most probably will bottleneck (if VSync is off, that is). This is not because the CPU is too weak for 1080p (it's perfectly fine for it, really), but because your GPU is very overpowered for this resolution.

At least get a 1440p monitor for a 1080 Ti.

Or 144hz monitor

the ryzen would not be able to keep up in newer games

nice necro btw

 

[n.t.borodjiev]

It most probably will bottleneck (if VSync is off, that is). This is not because the CPU is too weak for 1080p (it's perfectly fine for it, really), but because your GPU is very overpowered for this resolution.

At least get a 1440p monitor for a 1080 Ti.

Or 144hz monitor

the ryzen would not be able to keep up in newer games

nice necro btw

But in games that 144hz actually will give you an advantage (CS:GO, LoL, PUBG) it would be able to get 144+ fps

 

[maxalge]

It most probably will bottleneck (if VSync is off, that is). This is not because the CPU is too weak for 1080p (it's perfectly fine for it, really), but because your GPU is very overpowered for this resolution.

At least get a 1440p monitor for a 1080 Ti.

Or 144hz monitor

the ryzen would not be able to keep up in newer games

nice necro btw

But in games that 144hz actually will give you an advantage (CS:GO, LoL, PUBG) it would be able to get 144+ fps

not a chance in PUBG no, that game hates low IPC

need a OC'ed 7700k, 8600k, or 8700k to reach that kind of fps

 

[n.t.borodjiev]

You can wait the new 2070
2070's performance is about the same as 1080 ti but way more cheaper - 350-400$
With the saved money you can upgrade to 1800x

 

[maxalge]

You can wait the new 2070
2070's performance is about the same as 1080 ti but way more cheaper - 350-400$
With the saved money you can upgrade to 1800x

1800x is not helping with high fps either

not to mention its not running on a cheap b350 mobo without throttling to the ground