Question Will This Chasis Fans Setup Work?

[exspade]

Hi guys, I'm planning to buy bunch of Lian Li P28 fans for my ITX build and I was wondering will this setup work with just only PWM Y splitter cable? Below is a rough diagram of how I want to setup the fans for my chasis. My mobo only have one chasis fan header (B650E-ITX STRIX).

3 x Lian Li p28 triple pack
3 x Lian Li p28 single pack

 

[COLGeek]

To control that many fans, you'll need a fan controller/hub.

What is the make/model of your case/chassis? Never mind, I found in your other thread.

You'll want to make your bottom and side fans intake and your top and rear fans exhaust. Airflow is atypical due to the glass front of the case itself.

Something like this should do the trick:

Amazon.com

Why so many fans?

 

[Paperdoc]

Your sketch indicates use of TWELVE fans. Although the case shown has space for that, do you really plan to install all of them? Most people would consider that real overkill!

IF that is your plan, you will need TWO fan HUBS. Just to clarify, a HUB has THREE types of connections, irrespective of the physical appearance of it. It has ONE input cable that connects to a single mobo header. It has several male output connectors where you plug in fans. Lastly (and this is where it differs from a Splitter) it has one cable (or connector) that MUST connect to a power output directly from the PSU so it can get enough power for all its fans and draw NO power from the host header. This connection usually is to a SATA power output from the PSU, although older models may connect to a PSU 4-pin Molex connector. Hubs typically have 4 to 8 output ports for fans.

Your diagram appears to show at the top a radiator (part of a liquid cooling system) fitted in a push / pull fashion with a total of six fans. ALL of those fans MUST be controlled via the CPU_FAN header in some fashion because that header always uses for guidance the temperature sensor inside the CPU chip. So that is one fan Hub for those six fans. Then all your other fans (bottom, side and rear) are case ventilation fans, and those as a group should be connected to a second Hub that is connected to your single CHA_FAN header. This header uses a different temp sensor on the mobo.

 

[exspade]

To control that many fans, you'll need a fan controller/hub.

What is the make/model of your case/chassis? Never mind, I found in your other thread.

You'll want to make your bottom and side fans intake and your top and rear fans exhaust. Airflow is atypical due to the glass front of the case itself.

Something like this should do the trick:

Amazon.com

Why so many fans?

Yup I'm planning to do like that, bottom and side as intake while rear and top as exhaust. The answer on why so many fans, I wanted to go all out on this build with the new ryzen 9000 series.

 

[USAFRet]

Yup I'm planning to do like that, bottom and side as intake while rear and top as exhaust. The answer on why so many fans, I wanted to go all out on this build with the new ryzen 9000 series.

More fans does not automatically mean better cooling.

 

[exspade]

More fans does not automatically mean better cooling.

You recon that I don't do the push-pull setup? Haha I never tried a push-pull before so I really wanted to see the outcome here, just that I'm confused what I needed to buy in order to achieve the connection for these many fans, (12 in total).

 

[exspade]

Your sketch indicates use of TWELVE fans. Although the case shown has space for that, do you really plan to install all of them? Most people would consider that real overkill!

IF that is your plan, you will need TWO fan HUBS. Just to clarify, a HUB has THREE types of connections, irrespective of the physical appearance of it. It has ONE input cable that connects to a single mobo header. It has several male output connectors where you plug in fans. Lastly (and this is where it differs from a Splitter) it has one cable (or connector) that MUST connect to a power output directly from the PSU so it can get enough power for all its fans and draw NO power from the host header. This connection usually is to a SATA power output from the PSU, although older models may connect to a PSU 4-pin Molex connector. Hubs typically have 4 to 8 output ports for fans.

Your diagram appears to show at the top a radiator (part of a liquid cooling system) fitted in a push / pull fashion with a total of six fans. ALL of those fans MUST be controlled via the CPU_FAN header in some fashion because that header always uses for guidance the temperature sensor inside the CPU chip. So that is one fan Hub for those six fans. Then all your other fans (bottom, side and rear) are case ventilation fans, and those as a group should be connected to a second Hub that is connected to your single CHA_FAN header. This header uses a different temp sensor on the mobo.

Thanks for your input I really appreciate it. Yes you're right, I'm planning to do a push-pull setup with EK Nucleus CR360 for the Ryzen 9000 series. Hmm if the radiator fans is going to connect to the CPU_FAN, what approach do I need to take here since I assume that the AIO also have some wires that needs to connect to the CPU_FAN also right in this case.

Edit: So the radiator fans for the push pull will connect to the CPU_FAN and the AIO pump wire to the pump header while other fans in the case to the CHASIS_FAN header right? Do you recon I still need a separate controller to connect to CPU_FAN as the CPU_FAN header might not draw that much power for 6 fans?

 

[USAFRet]

You recon that I don't do the push-pull setup? Haha I never tried a push-pull before so I really wanted to see the outcome here, just that I'm confused what I needed to buy in order to achieve the connection for these many fans, (12 in total).

You'd have to do an A-B comparison to see if it is worth it.

Push-pull through the rad probably doesn't help nearly as much as you think it might.
If it did, that would be a standard config, and we'd all be doing it.

 

[exspade]

You'd have to do an A-B comparison to see if it is worth it.

Push-pull through the rad probably doesn't help nearly as much as you think it might.
If it did, that would be a standard config, and we'd all be doing it.

Alright, thanks!

 

[exspade]

Your sketch indicates use of TWELVE fans. Although the case shown has space for that, do you really plan to install all of them? Most people would consider that real overkill!

IF that is your plan, you will need TWO fan HUBS. Just to clarify, a HUB has THREE types of connections, irrespective of the physical appearance of it. It has ONE input cable that connects to a single mobo header. It has several male output connectors where you plug in fans. Lastly (and this is where it differs from a Splitter) it has one cable (or connector) that MUST connect to a power output directly from the PSU so it can get enough power for all its fans and draw NO power from the host header. This connection usually is to a SATA power output from the PSU, although older models may connect to a PSU 4-pin Molex connector. Hubs typically have 4 to 8 output ports for fans.

Your diagram appears to show at the top a radiator (part of a liquid cooling system) fitted in a push / pull fashion with a total of six fans. ALL of those fans MUST be controlled via the CPU_FAN header in some fashion because that header always uses for guidance the temperature sensor inside the CPU chip. So that is one fan Hub for those six fans. Then all your other fans (bottom, side and rear) are case ventilation fans, and those as a group should be connected to a second Hub that is connected to your single CHA_FAN header. This header uses a different temp sensor on the mobo.

Just to ensure I understand what you meant, below is the diagram that I try to understand from your perspective. Am i correct for this setup u suggested?

 

[Paperdoc]

Four items in response.
1. Yes, you DO need TWO fan Hubs, and for two reasons. IF you are doing the push / pull arrangement of 6 fans on the rad, that is. First, as I said the RAD FANS MUST be powered and controlled by the CPU_FAN header that uses for guidance the temp sensor inside the CPU chip. The CASE VENT fans all need control from a DIFFERENT header that is guided by a temp sensor on the mobo. Secondly, power limits. The AIO system you plan uses three fans that have a spec of max current consumption of 0.25 A EACH. The limit of power available from any one of your mobo's fan headers is 1.0 A total load, so the first three fans already can use 75% of the limit. Now double that fan count! (You have not told us which fans you would add to the three supplied.) So the RAD FAN system only needs a fan HUB that draws all power directly from the PSU and CAN supply more than a header can.
2. NOTE this. IF you change and go to using ONLY the three fans supplied with that AIO system and do NOT add three more, you will NOT need a Hub for them. Further, that AIO system supplies fans with a proprietary connection system of daisy-chaining all three fans, plus an adapter to connect that to mobo fan and ARGB lighting headers. Sine this means ONE cable for all the fans' motors, you do no need either a Hub or a Splitter for those three fans.
3. You say, "So the radiator fans for the push pull will connect to the CPU_FAN and the AIO pump wire to the pump header while other fans in the case to the CHASIS_FAN header." YES, that is the right way to do this.
4. For the CASE VENT fans (six of them) from ONE CHA_FAN header you WILL need a second fan HUB. You have not specified which fans those will be. But to use SIX from ONE header obviously needs a Splitter or a Hub. To do this job with a SPLITTER that has ALL power drawn from the header, those fans would need to have a max current spec of 0.16A or LESS, and you cannot tell us that will happen. Much safer to go with a HUB that gets fan power from the PSU.

(To be continued - I have a few jobs to take care of.)

 

[Zerk2012]

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