Windows 7 Slate Faces Off Against the Apple iPad

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This points out where MS has got it wrong, there are plenty of shortcomings with the ipad, but a Windows 7 tablet is an abomination. The Windows 7 OS just isn't set up to work as a touch based interface (I know it has a touch option but it is c-l-u-n-k-y). A touch based device works best under a different paradigm to using a keboard and a mouse and a monitor on a stand. OSX would be shite on a tablet computer, and so is Windows. You need to redesign an operating system to work on a tablet device, apple understood this, and for all its shortcomings, what the ipad does, it does beautifully. (And contrary to what many believe here, you can add usb to it cheaply, and you can dock it with a keyboard).
I personally use a fujitsu stylus based tablet, windows is usable on a tablet with a stylus that has buttons on it, not great, but usable. With a finger based device windows is a fail, the interface is just too dependant on high resolution, accuracy that requires a mouse, and one with 3 buttons and a scroll-wheel, it just doesn't suit a handheld.
 
[citation][nom]wotan31[/nom]As usual, Apple innovates while Microsoft and the rest of the world just imitate. That pinch zoom is truly awful on that Windows slate. And the onscreen keyboard looks clunky and cumbersome as well. I guess competition is good though, even if it is a junky imitation product.[/citation]
There has been slates for a long time, so Apple didn't innovate, as usual they copied it.
 
win 7 slate is better in almost every aspect as far as I can see..only thing they need to fix is the zooming lag and maybe an optional setting for making the keyboard as the same keyboard the ipad uses. but the full qwerty keyboard does have its advantages, even with such small letters.
 
[citation][nom]shallowbay[/nom]this is not microsoft's tablet, they did not build this. they are not advertising Windows 7 as a tablet OS. You sir, are are wrong. this isnt a specialized version of windows 7 for tablet, so the pinch and zoom is just the same thing as on any desktop. hit Ctrl + or Ctrl - and you will see why its like that. its not stuttering, use your brain[/citation]

Thanks for the obvious captain obvious. I know why it is stuttering but that still doesn't negate the fact that it is stuttering. I'm constantly told that Microsoft has "touch packs" and "built Windows 7 with tablet use as well as desktop use." Now all of the sudden when touch only looks like crap the apologists come out.

"It's okay. The stuttering isn't Microsoft's fault." Who cares. It is still stuttering and the competition isn't. Use your brain.
 
[citation][nom]chickenhoagie[/nom]win 7 slate is better in almost every aspect as far as I can see..only thing they need to fix is the zooming lag and maybe an optional setting for making the keyboard as the same keyboard the ipad uses. but the full qwerty keyboard does have its advantages, even with such small letters.[/citation]

Uhh... that is what innovate means... take something and make it better. Inventing something is when you make something new.
 
Did I mention tom's has the worst forum interface I have ever found anywhere. Jesus....

Sorry chicken, wasn't directed at your comment, the one above it.
 
Did I mention that the Slate is as thick as a brick and heavy as a rock?

PLus look at the virtual keyboard. My blackberry has bigger keys than that...

He is talking about USB ports and SD card reader. I can get all of tht just by getting the Apple USB adapter... I still keep the light/thin factor of the iPad and the 10 hour battery life...
Good luck selling that slate. Only religiously blind MS fanboys will buy that brick =D

 
Bad as it may be (in the sense that the ipad will probably never have an SD slot, and usb port),
they are comparing that slate/tablet to the iPad,
not the other way
 
[citation][nom]stm1185[/nom]And think of the Trees that could be saved![/citation]

So you want to replace a renewable resource, with one that contains countless heavy metals and products derived from petroleum. Im not a tree hugger, and say if you want a tablet get one. Just dont think that you are saving the world when you do it.
 
[citation][nom]anonim-[/nom]Bad as it may be (in the sense that the ipad will probably never have an SD slot, and usb port),they are comparing that slate/tablet to the iPad, not the other way[/citation]

True and funny :)

iPad does have an USB and SD port, you need to get the little adapter inorder to connect one of those devices.
 
[citation][nom]smeker[/nom]True and funny iPad does have an USB and SD port, you need to get the little adapter inorder to connect one of those devices.[/citation]
More money! They should come standard on a portable media device. Hell my 5 year old cheapo MP3 player has an SD card slot and the iPad doesn't.
 
[citation][nom]zachary k[/nom]win7 tablet: has a bigger app market (its called the whole internet and every computer related store!), USB, HDMI(?), external storage, microphone port, camera, FLASH!ipad: no viruses, or windows rot (both can be avoided by basic maintenance and common sense), longer battery life (what are you, in the middle of the woods with no outlets?), has an OS built form the ground up for it.[/citation]

"Has an OS built from the ground up for it" This. No tablet will compete with the iPad untill they have the software to support it, no matter how much faster or how many physical features it has. Apple has a specifically designed OS and quite a bit of specifically designed apps. Wanna beat the iPad? Develop the software.
 
Sorry, but the windows phone is too narrow. I prefer the Ipad here, which seems to have more of a perfect screen ratio.
 
For the people whining about the zooming....

The zooming is the same as if you were to use the browser's zoom commands. Like hitting CTRL + in Firefox.

Shows how little some of you know.
 
[citation][nom]SteveLord[/nom]For the people whining about the zooming....The zooming is the same as if you were to use the browser's zoom commands. Like hitting CTRL + in Firefox. Shows how little some of you know.[/citation]

True... that is why people said Win7 is not designed/optimized for tablet use.

Win7 slates can be very powerful, can have many connectivity, can use any win7 softwares, but... it is a touch screen only device (we can always has a keyboard but that is not a slate anymore),

How many software on win7 is optimized for touch screen use? From the video, even the web browser on win7 is not optimized for touch screen use.

Win7 slates have a great future, however as long as the OS is not optimized for the touch screen usage, the softwares are not optimized for the touch screen UI... as a slate.. win7 experience will always be limited and will be very difficult to be as good as those touch screen optimized OS like Android, iOS, WebOS, or even Win Phone 7 OS.
 
small question, all you that asking for higher spec's, do you think a tablet like a replacement of your desktop/laptop or like a extension of your already excisting hardware?



 
[citation][nom]eklipz330[/nom]nope, still hate pads = /[/citation]
Yup, they're a waste of time for all but a few very niche applications.
 
[citation][nom]welshmousepk[/nom]i want hardware specs...One of these on the ION platform would be awesome. dual core atom and a 9400m. would be awesome.[/citation]

ma be with tegra 2 ? ~
 
Jane, the iPad most certainly was not "revolutionary." You know that. Tablets have been around since the 80s. Even the name, iPad, was a registered trademark long before Steve Jobs decided to make the iTouch 40% bigger.
 
[citation][nom]smeker[/nom]True and funny iPad does have an USB and SD port, you need to get the little adapter inorder to connect one of those devices.[/citation]
I own an Omnia i910 - it can take standard 2.5mm and 3.5 mm headphones. Oh, but I need a special dongle. Do you know how annoying it is to have that dongle hanging off of my smart phone when trying to use headphones? The dongle also puts a bit more stress on the port and is one more extra cable I have to carry with me.

The Omnia doesn't use a standard mini-usb so I need to carry my dongle, my USB data/charging connect cable, and often times my wall charger due to the non-standard interface... in addition to all my other proprietary cables. *sigh*

Sorry, hate dongles. Rather have a port directly on the device. Also, if the dongle is not included, then it is just a hidden price built into the device since you need to buy it to get equivalent features (and ones I consider baseline).
 
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