Windows 8 RTM to Hit in July 2011

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[citation][nom]razorblaze42[/nom]I read some post that windows 8 will move to 128bit, guess thats if we see 128bit cpu's by that time.[/citation]
hahah

i am sorry but you are so gullible

we won't need 128 it for another 10 years at
least

we haven't started 64 bit where does 64 come from?


[citation][nom]hakesterman[/nom]Who Really cares?[/citation]

so you don't care when a new OS comes out? no wonder people like you complain about no support Windows NT after 15 years
 
heh whoever gave me -1 is a moron. you ever hear of reduce, reuse, recycle? I have a 64bit machine sitting next to my p4. Instead of throwing the P4 out in the trash, I make use of it. It actually is a pretty fast system for what I use it for and also modern AGP graphics cards speed it up even more amazingly enough. But I just have a cheapo video card in it presently.
 
really ppl. the public in general(not u the "public" acording to microsoft) hasnt understood the true power of a 64 bit system. if they dont understand 64, why should they move on to 128 bit? the world(majority of it anyways) still uses 32 bit. let 64 bit settle in, then they can start THINKING about 128 bit computers and os. sorry for th e typos cold fingers.
 
[citation][nom]rooket[/nom]So you hope that people who can't run a 64bit os due to cpu limitation won't be able to upgrade windows any more. wow, that is smart... i mean, just expecting that everyone forks out more money for a new computer whenever a new o/s arrives is brilliant isn't it. I'm still running one old pentium 4 and it works fine with win7 32bit.[/citation]

If you are thinking i gve you a negative one, i didn't you actually bring up a good point

whenn i said strictly x64 i meant only sell x64 bit versions of and not hybrid versions

so the OS will be backwards compatible but it won't be sold as a 32 bit OS
 
That's just ridiculous. In case M$ didn't realize, that's NEXT year. They can't hope to sell the OS if they haven't saturated the market on "Windows 7, the best OS we've ever made."
 
Hmm Windows 8 I wonder what it will bring to the table. (No sarcasm, I am serious)

On other news Apple's stock fell $5 after the introduction of the iPad (only to go back up $3~ once the price was announced). ($205 down to $199, then back up to $203.)
 
[citation][nom]Upendra09[/nom]hahah i am sorry but you are so gulliblewe won't need 128 it for another 10 years at leastwe haven't started 64 bit where does 64 come from?[/citation]
1 Octet =8bits. In its simplest form 32 bit refers to integers, memory addresses, or other data unit’s width, which are 4 octets’ wide or 8 octets wide in 64 bit.. If you think in terms of lanes of traffic you can move more 8 passenger’s vehicles on 8 lanes faster and more efficiently than on 4 lanes. A quick check on Wikipedia shows that 64bit computing has been around since the 1960’s, so it’s not exactly new, though it wasn’t practical in the desktop computing market until the innovation by AMD to adapt 64bit to the x86 architecture, and Intel followed suit. I wouldn’t call myself gullible in terms of 128 bit OS, let’s just say technically pessimistic and optimistic at the same time. You see, I believe both AMD and Intel have reach the upper limits of increasing the speed of CPU’s with a “somewhat” firm cap of 4Ghz on air, absent extreme cooling solutions. (Over clockers notwithstanding) Its seems reasonable to me, that if you can’t increase the speed of traffic, the next best thing is increasing the width of the lanes to get larger chunks of data crunched within or below the 4 GHz envelope. As the CPU die continue to shrink and we add more cores from Single, Dual, Quad, to Octo and Hexa and beyond, I believe, we’re going to see lower clocks and wider lanes, thereby getting more done faster, which theoretically is a speed increase. There’s a considerable amount of buzz around the web that “Microsoft is researching architecture for windows 8/9 which includes 128bit compatibility with the windows 8 kernel.” While Microsoft isn’t confirming or denying this we do see both AMD and Intel have already added some 128bit instruction sets to its CPU’s. Now that doesn’t mean these current generation CPU’s will run a 128bit OS, but it does show they’re getting the infrastructure in place for an eventual move to 128bit. Now as for the argument that Microsoft can’t move to 128bit because they haven’t fully explored 64bit yet. Vista hadn’t been fully explored before moving to windows 7 and the same for DX10, but it didn’t stop them from moving to DX11, so this argument doesn’t hold water. With the success of windows 7, why would anyone move to windows 8? I don’t think another UI refresh is going to sway a lot of users, but for me, 128bit OS just maybe an interesting enough caveat to move the tech savvy to shell out hard cash for a shiny new OS.
PS. The only reason 64bit has been slow to reach mainstream computing, is based upon the success of windows XP 32bit, which still hold the largest market share of home computers. OEM’s simply didn’t have the incentive to move to 64bit, when the lion share of its customer were, and still are on 32 bit. However Microsoft is forming at mouth to kill of XP once and for all, and 128bit OS just might be what’s necessary for the death blow.
Ancient Chinese proverb: “Slow adoption will only stifle innovation for so long”
 
you proved my point in a different way

first of all XP has hindered the progression of OS tech but so has AMD in a way, if they hadn't shut out the native x64 idea by intel, then we would have at least had x64 processors


and the reason why i said we haven't started x64 is because we have only barely gotten the public to get into x64

us enthusiasts can say whatever we want but as long as the public gets its needs met they will not buy anything extra

it is actually sort of a paradox, without the public knowing the frontier of x64 bit we can't upgrade, but without going there we can't show it ot them, but the public won't go anywhere until the absolutely have to
 
[citation][nom]razorblaze42[/nom]1 Octet =8bits. In its simplest form 32 bit refers to integers, memory addresses, or other data unit’s width, which are 4 octets’ wide or 8 octets wide in 64 bit.. If you think in terms of lanes of traffic you can move more 8 passenger’s vehicles on 8 lanes faster and more efficiently than on 4 lanes. A quick check on Wikipedia shows that 64bit computing has been around since the 1960’s, so it’s not exactly new, though it wasn’t practical in the desktop computing market until the innovation by AMD to adapt 64bit to the x86 architecture, and Intel followed suit. I wouldn’t call myself gullible in terms of 128 bit OS, let’s just say technically pessimistic and optimistic at the same time. You see, I believe both AMD and Intel have reach the upper limits of increasing the speed of CPU’s with a “somewhat” firm cap of 4Ghz on air, absent extreme cooling solutions. (Over clockers notwithstanding) Its seems reasonable to me, that if you can’t increase the speed of traffic, the next best thing is increasing the width of the lanes to get larger chunks of data crunched within or below the 4 GHz envelope. As the CPU die continue to shrink and we add more cores from Single, Dual, Quad, to Octo and Hexa and beyond, I believe, we’re going to see lower clocks and wider lanes, thereby getting more done faster, which theoretically is a speed increase. There’s a considerable amount of buzz around the web that “Microsoft is researching architecture for windows 8/9 which includes 128bit compatibility with the windows 8 kernel.” While Microsoft isn’t confirming or denying this we do see both AMD and Intel have already added some 128bit instruction sets to its CPU’s. Now that doesn’t mean these current generation CPU’s will run a 128bit OS, but it does show they’re getting the infrastructure in place for an eventual move to 128bit. Now as for the argument that Microsoft can’t move to 128bit because they haven’t fully explored 64bit yet. Vista hadn’t been fully explored before moving to windows 7 and the same for DX10, but it didn’t stop them from moving to DX11, so this argument doesn’t hold water. With the success of windows 7, why would anyone move to windows 8? I don’t think another UI refresh is going to sway a lot of users, but for me, 128bit OS just maybe an interesting enough caveat to move the tech savvy to shell out hard cash for a shiny new OS.PS. The only reason 64bit has been slow to reach mainstream computing, is based upon the success of windows XP 32bit, which still hold the largest market share of home computers. OEM’s simply didn’t have the incentive to move to 64bit, when the lion share of its customer were, and still are on 32 bit. However Microsoft is forming at mouth to kill of XP once and for all, and 128bit OS just might be what’s necessary for the death blow. Ancient Chinese proverb: “Slow adoption will only stifle innovation for so long”[/citation]


Valid point but I made the somewhat mistake of upgrading to 64bit Vista about a year ago. I would have figured it would be more widely adopted years after it's introduction, I was wrong. There are a lot of programmers that just refuse to program with Vista in mind and or update there software for solid 64 bit computing. I will not for one be an early adopter until a 128 bit OS becomes at least 25% adopted by the market. I think 64 bit hovers around 15%. Don't get me wrong I love my 8GB of RAM but besides mainstream software it's getting annoying see small software which is the mass majority choosing to blow off Windows Vista and 64 bit functionality. It's depressing sometimes as I liked my context menu with my Encryption software and I went through over a dozen which refuse to add code to there software to allow the menu to function in 64 bit.
 
I thought it was supposed to be every 3 years and not 2?

Either way I'll be upgrading once every 2 life cycles. I'll just have to play with the beta of each and learn about them until I know as much as possible about them and take the require tests to do support for each.
 
If this is true then i think MS is making a mistake. Every 4 or 5 years they should release a new OS not every 2 or 3. It takes time for people to get use to their OS and is a huge burden on software developers to make software compatibly for the new OS. MS needs to rethink this one.
 
Moving to strictly x64 might finally force companies to finally make the move to x64 that are dragging their heels say like Adobe with flash. Hopefully windows 8 isn't simply a rehashed windows 7 though and takes care of a few of it's shortfalls and user annoyances.
 
so i'm thinking they made win 7 for quick redemption in the public eye and windows 8 was already in the works for a while and will be the big update vs vista
 
I read somewhere this is because Microsoft is starting to realize the Linux release model poses a threat to theirs as there are more users of Linux than ever before, so they are moving toward more frequent releases.
 
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