Windows 8 Upgrades Will Get More Expensive in February

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[citation][nom]A Bad Day[/nom]Eh, I'll wait for the next edition for Windows. Maybe it would fix W8's flaws just like W7 to Vista.[/citation]
Next version is code name Windows Blue and it still does not have the start menu.
Just download Classic Shell, I doubt MS will bring back the start menu as even Server 2013 is
using the Metro UI.
 
I am sure many of the people who say they'll never upgrade will probably do or just get it with a new laptop in the future. This thing is going to be popular.
 
It's getting to be quite sickening reading the posts from people that dislike Windows 8.

We've now got around 10 people in work using the new OS in work and these people are standard, usual, the non-techies of the world who come in 8 until 5 to do a job. Over the years after prepping hundreds of computers I came to realise that hardly none of the users use the Start Menu to do anythig other than to Shut down the computer... how do I know this? Accidentally remove MS Word shortcut from the task bar and the phone will ring asking where it can be found!

After the initial charms introduction (People who've actually USED Windows 8 will know what that is) they all have a quick flick around the screen with the mouse and it literally took each of them ONE try to get to the windows button. Each are then shown how to close available 'apps' and they've ALL especially liked the small Kindle, ebay, Amazon or their favourite football club added to the Sports section. If it keeps them from the web in a safe environment then I'm all for that.

There are often three stages felt by someone left 'alone' with Windows 8 and I felt the same way:

1 - OMG! What do I do? Aggh. Click, click.. huh?

2 - Oh, ok, that's not bad... still don't like it that much but it's not that bad

3 - Ahh, ok, it's the same as Windows 7 with added features. I like it.

Most people don't get past option 1 as we seldom like change and the initial shock or judgment holds. Kids don't have this and just use the facilities.

At the end of the day Windows 8 'is' a solid operating system offering you, as a consumer, a safer wasy to install 'apps'. I'm sick to death of computers being bogged down by Apple, adobe, Google and others installing copious amounts of rubbish in the form of services, start-up items etc. 'Apps' are the way forward with their self contained structure.



Anyway, to conclude, I and the people in work see no issues with Windows 8. I'm moving everyone over in March as we have a site licence.
 
When i think of win8, i think of VISTA. I've played around with win8, and it's far more crappy then vista ever was. Random missing menus, required keystrokes (NO MOUSE ALLOWED) to get to some places. No resizing of programs, etc.
I would pick VISTA over the piece of crap UNSTABLE win8. Even without the service packs, vista is still far superior!!! (That's pretty bad in it's own right). I'm staying with win7.
 
Windows Vista wasn't bad, it was just extremely buggy at release, so much so that no one ever bothered upgrading from Win XP.

Windows 8, on the other hand, is just bad.

Its like Ballmer woke up one day and was like, "Lets put a tablet interface on a desktop computer and see if people actually like it!" He must of been smoking something.... 'cause not even Apple has done that with Mac OS X.
 
For those that still dont have 7 or 8, you can always buy the license for Windows 8 and use the downgrade rights to move back to 7. $40 copy of 7 should make some people happy. I have a mix of 7 and 8 in my house, depending on how old the machine its on is. Personally, I like both.
 
[citation][nom]damianrobertjones[/nom]It's getting to be quite sickening reading the posts from people that dislike Windows 8.[/citation]

Microsoft could have retained the option to enable the Start Menu (as in the Developer Preview) and run Metro apps in Windowed mode, and that would've been fine. I mean I don't use the Media Center in Windows 7, but I don't mind it's there because I can ignore it.
But Microsoft wanted to force users to change for Microsoft's own business goals and bottom line, so they have no one to blame but themselves. I am the customer, I want things done my way or I'm not giving them business, simple as that.
 
[citation][nom]computertech82[/nom]When i think of win8, i think of VISTA. I've played around with win8, and it's far more crappy then vista ever was. Random missing menus, required keystrokes (NO MOUSE ALLOWED) to get to some places. No resizing of programs, etc. I would pick VISTA over the piece of crap UNSTABLE win8. Even without the service packs, vista is still far superior!!! (That's pretty bad in it's own right). I'm staying with win7.[/citation]I would pick win8 + classic shell over the piece of crap Vista that its performance issue cannot be fix by any 3rd party program.

win8 + classic shell = a faster win 7 without aero.

win8 cannot be replace win7. win7 is superior there is no reason to upgrade from win7. But Vista is a disaster.
 
The problem is Windows 8 doesn't bring anything to the desktop, and it actually does less than Windows 7. The term Upgrade implies an improvement, which Windows 8 doesn't have, unless you happen to have a touch screen monitor. I give Microsoft credit for trying something, but I'm still not happy being their beta tester for Vista, and Vista was more of an upgrade than 8 is to 7. I agree that Windows 8 isn't horrible, but it doesn't have ANYTHING that to make it better, and in several ways offers LESS than 7!
 
I really like Windows 8, I have upgraded all 3 of my home P.C.'s with it and everybody is pleased with 8. If you don't like the start screen then install Classic Shell. I have it on mine and its work nicely, It includes tweaks and don't cost a penny. Windows 8 runs quick and smooth as silk even on my oldest P.C. which has a Core2Duo and 4 Gigs of DDR2 memory. I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Also one of my P.C.'s is a New Ivy Bridge build (I5 3570k) Which we only installed the W8 preview on and it still only cost $40.00, No previous version of windows was needed.
 
F'ing Genius of Microsoft. Offer nothing new and raise the price of something that doesn't sell, fucking brilliant Microsoft. Next thing on their Agenda would be to charge for SP1!


If they would add improvements, fixes, restore what should be included (ie media & the start menu) AND lower the price, I would be interested.

I wonder... Microsoft is still headquartered in Redmond, Washington right.... when was this decided... and when was it that pot became legal...

Must be an awesome place to intern...
 
Toms comments have gotten worse than Yahoo News. Not only do you bandwagon, now you're idiots. If you think W8 is unusable, maybe you should go pick up a jitterbug phone like my grandma because you're technology illiterate. While this price increase is unreasonable and unjustifiable, the OS itself isn't bad. Grow up, kids.
 
[citation][nom]billgatez[/nom]Sales in the toilet? Raise the price. F**kin GENIUS.[/citation]
It is GENIUS, as they get more $$$ out of people dumb enough to buy it.
 
[citation][nom]bobbyz[/nom]Toms comments have gotten worse than Yahoo News. Not only do you bandwagon, now you're idiots. If you think W8 is unusable, maybe you should go pick up a jitterbug phone like my grandma because you're technology illiterate. While this price increase is unreasonable and unjustifiable, the OS itself isn't bad. Grow up, kids.[/citation]People don't think Win8 is unusable because they can't use it, it's unusable because it's too much trouble to use.
 
"The biggest change is the removal of the Start button, but the Start8 app can fix all that for a quick $5."

... Note to writers, saying "And you can pay more to fix one of the biggest irritations" is not a plus. It's like rating a PC with onboard video, the slowest chip around and 1 Gb RAM as an "incredible gaming PC, 10 out of 10!" because you can replace the CPU, add a decent amount of RAM and put in discrete video. While, yes, it should rate higher than those that won't let you do that (say, a 2 instead of a 1,) it's *not a positive thing.* And no, I don't care that I'm "only" talking $5 vs several hundred dollars or more. The fact the END USER has to fix this is the issue.
 
After running for more than half a year Windows 8 RC (at start i didn`t really liked it, and i talk from experience not random trashtalk win8 hate frenzy that is on the net from people who never installed Win8) the free license finally expired so i was forced to get back to Win7.

All i can say the Start in Win8 is better! than the one in Win7, i got used to have my very important applications on taskbar the least important in the start screen, on Win7 i was forced to go into Start> All programs scroll down to my desired application folder click again then access it , on Win8 it`s all there right in front of your big 1080p screen 1 click away (i don`t like destkop full of icons, if you`ll comment to just put them there).

Thought at first the little button that changes between Detail List and Thumbnails in the lower right corner of the Explorer window didn`t looked to be very usefull, when i got back to windows 7 i really felt the missing buttons there when i started to browse folders and needed the fast switch between them.

Windows responsiveness feel, no benchmark that only shows you numbers will ever tell you this, when actually working with your PC in Win8 it feels faster than 7, everything is a bit snappier.

Gaming, though in Counter Strike: GO , the max frame rate was about the same, the gaming experience was crap on Win7, on almost all of the maps i experienced massive frame rate fluctuations when the maps were getting crowded with smoke , bombs and kind of effects, i actually had to lower down my video settings to get better frame rates but still useless, and sometimes having split-seconds freezes like my pc was loading something from hard drives.
Installed Win8 again , everything got back to normal in CS:GO.

System used: AMD Phenom II 940 , 8 GB DDR2 , GTX 465 1 GB , Corsair SSD 120 GB system drive , 2x Seagate 1TB 7200 RPM storage drives.

Say what you want about the look of Win8 but for my particular case Win8 is an upgrade from Win7, i also work with Adobe Premiere CS6 / Photoshop CS6 but didn`t got to retest them to see the feel differences.
 
What's worse is CableCard users are being made to pay more for the media package.

Ballmer will remain untouched for another bad decision.
 
Cheap marketing trick to try to get more customers to upgrade (don't you just love how they spend billions on marketing, only to in the end, having to restort to these lame ass tactics). I'll bet you, the sales figures will only drop even more after the price increase. MS are in no position to play around with the market at this point.
They'd have to kill me, to upgrade to that pile of ****.
 
I have Windows 8 thanks to a new computer and I feel that it's just not that much of an improvement. I'm very very disappointed because Windows 8 has some nice features, but doesn't go far enough to let the user customize the experience like I feel they could have. For example, if you hover your mouse over an application on the bottom task bar, the window expands, and if you have multiple tabs going, they all expand and you can switch between them like you are using a magnifying glass. But Windows 8 automatically groups together tabs, unlike Windows 7 where tabs would be available individually at the bottom and you could switch between them easily by clicking on it. Now you have to hover over the damned group of tabs and then wait for them to expand in order to switch. This is very very annoying, I wish Microsoft gave you the option of HOW TO ARRANGE tabs, whether to group or not, but of course they don't.

As for the new Metro/start screen, there's very little difference in functionality for me. It might be a little faster than pressing start, and then finding your folders, but swiping the bottom left corner is exactly the same thing as pushing start. And I still have to find my app, but I can do it a few seconds faster now because I know exactly where the app is on the screen. Yes this is better, but very very marginally better. And that sums up Windows 8, if you can stand the changes, then Windows 8 is a tiny bit better. But the improvements are way too small to make learning a whole new operating system worthwhile, and I think that's why so many people are frustrated like me. Why do I have to spend time to learn an OS that isn't much better than the one I'm used to? Why do I have to waste my time, my valuable time on Microsoft's whim? It's not worth it. That's the bottom line. Even if there was no cost to upgrade it would not be worth your time to learn Windows 8 given the lack of improvements. I think that sums up the feeling of most Windows 8 users.
 
The visual and right in your face improvements are minimal indeed , but win 8 has better resources management, as for your problem with tabs being grouped in the taskbar , just right click the task bar, Proprieties and there you will find Task bar buttons: Always combine, hide labels, just select Never combine, and your problem is gone.
 
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