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More info?)
Don't look at me: I have at least eight holes in my mouth! So, it could
be Tapisrv.exe (Microsoft® Windows(TM) Telephony Server) or Rnaapp.exe
(Dial-Up Networking Application) that it doesn't like. Those two always
launch after I've connected to the NET. And KB891711.exe does not crash
IE working out of TIFs before I've connected. I guess it could also be
something like Ptsnoop.exe (the legit one of PCtel, Inc.) that may want
to get busier after a connection is made. But that one is in the Startup
Group & is there even working out of TIFs offline.
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:%23qy3mU5JFHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Pure cable and no problem. Dial up may be the common denominator,
don't
| know and can't say. Many users are up in arms over the issue, yet
getting
| info is like pulling teeth.
|
| --
|
| Brian A.
|
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
|
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uJC$Ws4JFHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > You don't have dial-up, then? Do you have the problem with
KB891711.exe?
| > Do you know whether it crashes only dial-up machines?
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
| > news:%238k1qV2JFHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > | Not all, I'm always connected.
| > |
| > | --
| > |
| > | Brian A.
| > |
| > | Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > |
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > | news:ecHf5VzJFHA.3552@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | > I'm thinking those that can't boot probably access the NET at
boot.
| > | > Maybe they have turned on Active Desktop or something.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
| > | > news:uACv1OtJFHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | > | For those that can boot normally but get BSOD'd using the net,
I
| > | > wonder if
| > | > | posting the running processes would help to at least find out
if
| > there
| > | > is a
| > | > | common app used among them that may be the cause.
Unfortunately
| > for
| > | > those
| > | > | that can't get to the desktop can't do this.
| > | > |
| > | > | Even the suggestion of booting to Safe Mode doesn't really
help
| > | > unless they
| > | > | want to remove the update, which doesn't run in Safe Mode.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > |
| > | > | Brian A.
| > | > |
| > | > | Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > | > |
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > | > | news:%23QGlqksJFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | > | >I dunno. It's odd, fer sure. But I'd still like to see one or
two
| > | > folks
| > | > | > who are having problems do a true MSCONFIG-based t-shoot. Is
it
| > just
| > | > the
| > | > | > Update or is it some synergistic effect from having certain
| > other
| > | > apps
| > | > | > running in the background at the same time? I've seen Spybot
| > | > mentioned a
| > | > | > few times...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | > MS MVP Shell/User
| > | > | >
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| > | > | >
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:u0Vw6dsJFHA.572@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > | > | >> Gary,
| > | > | >> From what I see the update creates a folder
| > | > C:\Windows\SytemKB891711
| > | > | >> In that folder is KB891711.exe 9kb dated 02/22/05 and
| > Q891711.dll
| > | > 5kb
| > | > | > dated
| > | > | >> 02/18/05
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Both are dated last month. I wonder if they replaced
newer
| > files
| > | > or
| > | > | > need
| > | > | >> updated files for something or another.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Now this is a first I've seen where an update has created
it's
| > own
| > | > | > folder,
| > | > | >> exe and dll in System. Perhaps someone can explain what's
up
| > with
| > | > | > that.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> --
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Brian A.
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > | > | >>
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
| > | > | >> news:usCBpQbJFHA.1176@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| > | > | >> > Might also be a conflict with some *other* background
app.
| > I'd
| > | > use
| > | > | >> > MSCONFIG (in Safe Mode) to disable everything *but* the
one
| > | > update
| > | > | > that
| > | > | >> > has a background app attached, and see if that allows a
| > startup
| > | > in
| > | > | >> > Normal Mode. If so, add apps back in until the error
recurs.
| > | > | >> >
| > | > | >> > --
| > | > | >> > Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | >> > MS MVP Shell/User
| > | > | >> >
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| > | > | >> >
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
| > | > | >> >
| > | > | >> > "Jluvs2dive" <Jluvs2dive@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
| > | > message
| > | > | >> >
news:1C497B39-5722-4ED4-819E-CAD871BB894A@microsoft.com...
| > | > | >> >> Thanks Rick,
| > | > | >> >>
| > | > | >> >> That was the advice I gave user #2 last night when I
first
| > heard
| > | > of
| > | > | >> > this
| > | > | >> >> problem. They did that this morning and it fixed the
| > problem.
| > | > I'm
| > | > | >> > going to
| > | > | >> >> do some testing today to find out which one is causing
the
| > | > problem.
| > | > | >> >>
| > | > | >> >> Thanks again,
| > | > | >> >> John
| > | > | >> >>
| > | > | >> >> "Rick Chauvin" wrote:
| > | > | >> >>
| > | > | >> >> > "Jluvs2dive" <Jluvs2dive@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote
| > in
| > | > | > message
| > | > | >> >> >
news:9B9E5539-7FC2-4FF3-AAE6-D5648414C711@microsoft.com
| > | > | >> >> > > Terry,
| > | > | >> >> > > I don't have an answer for you yet, but I do want to
| > confirm
| > | > | > the
| > | > | >> > problem.
| > | > | >> >> > > The problem starts after applying either the update
from
| > MS
| > | > | >> > Bulletin 891711
| > | > | >> >> > > or 888113 or both. I have one user that was getting
| > blue
| > | > | > screens
| > | > | >> > at login
| > | > | >> >> > > unless in safe mode, and another that is getting
blue
| > | > screens
| > | > | > or
| > | > | >> > lockups
| > | > | >> >> > > upon launching either IE or Netscape. The first
system
| > that
| > | > | > was
| > | > | >> > blue
| > | > | >> >> > > screening at login has been rolled back by our
backup
| > | > software.
| > | > | >> > The
| > | > | >> >> > > second user is not one of mine and does not have a
| > backup to
| > | > | > roll
| > | > | >> > back to.
| > | > | >> >> > > Both systems started this behavior after doing the
MS
| > | > updates.
| > | > | > I
| > | > | >> > will
| > | > | >> >> > > post again if I can come up with a solution for you.
| > | > | >> >> > > John
| > | > | >> >> >
| > | > | >> >> > John, both updates are listed in Add/Remove in the
Control
| > | > Panel,
| > | > | >> > have them
| > | > | >> >> > uninstall one or the other or both in safemode if need
be,
| > and
| > | > | > see
| > | > | >> > if that
| > | > | >> >> > helps.
| > | > | >> >> >
| > | > | >> >> > Rick
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