Wolfenstein Released in Germany Without Nazi References

[cburke82]

I get it. You dont want a group like that coming back in any way shape or form.

 

[catswold]

Imagine a "game" based on 9/11 ... Not so funny anymore

Sorry, don't get the parallel,
1. 9/11 was not a self-inflicted wound, Germany initiated WWII.
2. Castle Wolfenstein is not a replica of any actual facility, it's a maze-game filled with the nastiest bad guys the creator could imagine and in the pantheon of "bad guys," Nazis rank right up there at the top in any sane persons book.
3. WWII occurred over half a century before Wolfenstein was created, 9/11 occurred 13 years ago.
4. Get a sense of humor.

 

[jimmysmitty]

It's stupid. It's only stupid because any idiot with a computer can do a 2 second search on Google and find out their Nazi's.
Germany; no kid who plays videogames really understands what a Nazi is. They will never (hopefully) see the horrors of war. Most of them grew up after the Berlin Wall fell. Just let them believe that Nazi's are some evil group of people that exist outside the laws of reality, like all North American children do.

Um here in the US (not sure about Mexico or Canada) we get a very in depth history lesson on WWII, Nazis, the Holocaust and more than people think. We even get told how originally the US was involved but in a way that we were selling goods to both sides as we originally didn't care who won until Germany started attacking our ships with U-Boats and then Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

And the whole reason to have history taught is to help us remember our mistakes so we do not repeat them. It doesn't work sometimes (Germany did start two World Wars) but I would say that considering how badly the world was before WWII, we are in a much more peaceful state overall. There used to be wars all the time, not just ones like Iraq but I mean all out wars like the WW or Civil Wars etc.

Why should it be sensitive subject? Are they trying to close their eyes and say the nazzi and Hitler never happened ? It doesn`t change the history ... be a man and accept the history.

This is NOT some kind of history revisionism or something like that. Every schoolkid in germany has multiple history lessons about naziism, the holocaust, WWI, WWII etc. The law is to prevent neonazis from using nazi paraphernalia in public. But where do you draw the line in respect to the swastika? (the law has to be somewhat strict and specific to prevent loopholes) German law says: art is ok the rest is not.

The sad thing is that the Swastika itself came from elsewhere and was only used as a symbol by the Nazis and forever scared. It has been found in almost every part of the world, even dating well before the modern world and back in the ancient world.

I think Germany needs to let that go. There are other worse symbols but allowing one group to destroy a symbol that has been used around the world for thousands of years without the meaning of hate is allowing them to win.

Oh but the game itself is fun as all hell. Even found a hidden Wolfenstein 3D Easter egg level that you play until you die.

 

[Alec Mowat]

It's stupid. It's only stupid because any idiot with a computer can do a 2 second search on Google and find out their Nazi's.
Germany; no kid who plays videogames really understands what a Nazi is. They will never (hopefully) see the horrors of war. Most of them grew up after the Berlin Wall fell. Just let them believe that Nazi's are some evil group of people that exist outside the laws of reality, like all North American children do.

Um here in the US (not sure about Mexico or Canada) we get a very in depth history lesson on WWII, Nazis, the Holocaust and more than people think. We even get told how originally the US was involved but in a way that we were selling goods to both sides as we originally didn't care who won until Germany started attacking our ships with U-Boats and then Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

And the whole reason to have history taught is to help us remember our mistakes so we do not repeat them. It doesn't work sometimes (Germany did start two World Wars) but I would say that considering how badly the world was before WWII, we are in a much more peaceful state overall. There used to be wars all the time, not just ones like Iraq but I mean all out wars like the WW or Civil Wars etc.

Which is good and well, but it's all text book history lessons with a few artifacts. The actual survivors of that war are fading away quickly, as are the true stories and not the Hollywood style interpretations.
You're teacher may know a lot about the war, but he wasn't there.
Those kids learning also may know a lot of text book information, but they didn't experience the conflict first hand.

It's that first hand experience of war that makes it come alive. Learning about history in a text book does nothing to bring that experience alive.

More peaceful state? The West has been at war with countries in the Middle East for over a decade. We may not experience "Total War" anymore (thanks to Nuclear Weapons and MAD), but we do live in constant fear of one another.

 

[TheAshigaru]

It's really sad when you think about it. The last veterans of World War I died within the last five years. The last WWII veterans will die within the next 20-30 years. If you've got a grandfather or great grandfather who served, it's definitely worth taking the time to talk to them about their experiences. My grandpa has told me about his time in the army during the occupation of Japan, and it really does give a different insight than any book or film could.

 

[Alec Mowat]

It's really sad when you think about it. The last veterans of World War I died within the last five years. The last WWII veterans will die within the next 20-30 years. If you've got a grandfather or great grandfather who served, it's definitely worth taking the time to talk to them about their experiences. My grandpa has told me about his time in the army during the occupation of Japan, and it really does give a different insight than any book or film could.

20 - 30?

Most are in their late 80's now. There will be very very few survivors in 20 years.

 

[jimmysmitty]

It's really sad when you think about it. The last veterans of World War I died within the last five years. The last WWII veterans will die within the next 20-30 years. If you've got a grandfather or great grandfather who served, it's definitely worth taking the time to talk to them about their experiences. My grandpa has told me about his time in the army during the occupation of Japan, and it really does give a different insight than any book or film could.

That is true. My grandfather told me about his experiences in WWII (USMC) and it is pretty crazy what happened over there, especially in the Pacific front.

 

[Cybolic]

What sort of nonsense is this? Previous Wolfenstein games were released in Germany under the exact same circumstances. Fix the article and your "journalism".

 

[mapesdhs]

Toys and games are things you play (with). You don't play with art or movies.
I think that that's the reasoning behind the catogarization.

Just curious, how would they categorise an interactive movie?

Ian.

 

[cypeq]

if you buy game key on steamstore or outside of germany ? Is the steam even recognizing regional blocking ?