[SOLVED] Workstation for design, need advice

[scrantonstrangler]

Hi everyone, got a tasty one for anyone who´s willing to help

My dad has put me in charge of getting a new machine for his work since the old one is already tired and its impossible to maintain the workflow. He owns a local publicity and design shop, mostly uses CorelDraw (still on the 2015 version) for image editing.
The current machine is heavily outdated, currently with 4gb of ram and radeon card, cant remember which one, anyways it has to go and its already years late.
So I´ve built a gaming machine for me but didnt know how to build one for editing and design, so I went to a well renowned pc builder in the area and he pointed me in a direction I did not expect and I really doubt its the best approach. He recommended us a recondicioned build (cant attach image but the full name is HP Z600 2XL5640 16GB W7 PRO) which is a dual processor z600 HP workstation and he then proceded to add a 1TB ssd and a GTX1650 OC 4gb. Everything would run us like 800€ or more cant remember. The thing even ran DDR3 rams, not to mention that it is used...

Is this good for everyday work? Isnt it better going with new parts and aim for longevity? Should I build one on my own? I kinda lost, I´ve built 1 pc in my life, the man has built hundreds

Would really appreciate the guidance


Edit: Really appreciated the help here, and quick too, will be returning to this website

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Can you stylize your thread's initial post or a followup post with info asked for in this thread;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

forums.tomshardware.com

?

Also, are you able to parse a link to the reconditioned build that you're looking at? I wouldn't invest in a used system when you're bread and butter depends on being on your A-game on any given day. A workstation should be reliable, not something that's down for the count(due to troubleshooting).

 

[punkncat]

So, going here:
CorelDRAW Graphics Suite | Free Trial

And landing on "specs" shows this program will run on pretty much anything, and this is the newest version. The only items specifically mentioned for more performance was in relation to RAM and storage.

Obviously, any user experience can be heavily influenced by the power of the components.

Something like this may benefit from ECC RAM, and even 'office' machines can be built that will utilize it. In a situation like this it would seem that building something current, priced right, and with plenty of RAM and drive space, even if a "gaming" system should work fine.

 

[Why_Me]

You could do something like this. Just add a graphics card, case and Windows 11.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90829794
EVGA SuperNOVA 550W GT 80+ Gold Modular PSU €50,00

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853348
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 €128,49

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4

or ...

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853347
MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 €136,97

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660-A-DDR4

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853515
Intel Core i7-12700F €297,47

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90894831
Scythe Fuma 2 CPU Cooler €52,86

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90782615
G.Skill Aegis DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL16 €99,15

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90828322
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 SSD €84,03

Review of that cpu with benchmarks.

Intel Core i7-12700 + Intel B660 Review

Today we have a combo review of all-new Intel hardware, our first look at the affordable Intel B660 platform, the non-K Core i7-12700 and Intel's latest box...

www.techspot.com

 

[scrantonstrangler]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Can you stylize your thread's initial post or a followup post with info asked for in this thread;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

forums.tomshardware.com

?

Also, are you able to parse a link to the reconditioned build that you're looking at? I wouldn't invest in a used system when you're bread and butter depends on being on your A-game on any given day. A workstation should be reliable, not something that's down for the count(due to troubleshooting).

Thanks for answering
Well we are not looking at it, that's just what he recommended basically, i'll post a random link so u can look at it
https://loja.misterpc.pt/WORKSTATIO...gKIQNSERsMbQKGXOc7eu1ZMFZIXsgPJBoC3M0QAvD_BwE

 

[scrantonstrangler]

So, going here:
CorelDRAW Graphics Suite | Free Trial

And landing on "specs" shows this program will run on pretty much anything, and this is the newest version. The only items specifically mentioned for more performance was in relation to RAM and storage.

Obviously, any user experience can be heavily influenced by the power of the components.

Something like this may benefit from ECC RAM, and even 'office' machines can be built that will utilize it. In a situation like this it would seem that building something current, priced right, and with plenty of RAM and drive space, even if a "gaming" system should work fine.

Well running the program is rather easy, the problem is when we have multiple tabs openned with lots of heavy files on them. The question was really if the system he recommended would be worth considering
thanks for answering

 

[scrantonstrangler]

You could do something like this. Just add a graphics card, case and Windows 11.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90829794
EVGA SuperNOVA 550W GT 80+ Gold Modular PSU €50,00

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853348
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 €128,49

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4

or ...

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853347
MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 €136,97

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660-A-DDR4

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853515
Intel Core i7-12700F €297,47

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2700f-processor-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90894831
Scythe Fuma 2 CPU Cooler €52,86

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90782615
G.Skill Aegis DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (2x16GB) CL16 €99,15

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90828322
Samsung 980 1TB NVMe M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 SSD €84,03

Review of that cpu with benchmarks.

Intel Core i7-12700 + Intel B660 Review

Today we have a combo review of all-new Intel hardware, our first look at the affordable Intel B660 platform, the non-K Core i7-12700 and Intel's latest box...

www.techspot.com

Thnkas a lot, will check it out
If I wanted to keep it under 1k would it be better to run with amd cpu? tks

 

[punkncat]

Well running the program is rather easy, the problem is when we have multiple tabs openned with lots of heavy files on them. The question was really if the system he recommended would be worth considering
thanks for answering

In that respect, no I would not pay 800 Euro for a system of that spec, on Windows 7 especially, unless there was some specific need for said. You didn't mention that you had to be on an unsupported OS, so no.

 

[scrantonstrangler]

In that respect, no I would not pay 800 Euro for a system of that spec, on Windows 7 especially, unless there was some specific need for said. You didn't mention that you had to be on an unsupported OS, so no.

he said he would install w10 on it xDDD

 

[Lafong]

The HP Z600 workstation was introduced in 2009.

I'd avoid it for that reason alone......even if it was new and unused.

 

[Why_Me]

Thnkas a lot, will check it out
If I wanted to keep it under 1k would it be better to run with amd cpu? tks

An i5 cpu and less expensive cpu cooler would cut the cost.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90853511
Intel Core i5-12400F €156,50

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...2400f-processor-18m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://www.computeruniverse.net/en/p/90800899
be quiet! Pure Rock 2 CPU Cooler €28,30

 

[Zerk2012]

he said he would install w10 on it xDDD

Must be very old just 4GB of memory, what processor does he have right now?

 

[Bob.B]

Hi everyone, got a tasty one for anyone who´s willing to help

My dad has put me in charge of getting a new machine for his work since the old one is already tired and its impossible to maintain the workflow. He owns a local publicity and design shop, mostly uses CorelDraw (still on the 2015 version) for image editing.
The current machine is heavily outdated, currently with 4gb of ram and radeon card, cant remember which one, anyways it has to go and its already years late.
So I´ve built a gaming machine for me but didnt know how to build one for editing and design, so I went to a well renowned pc builder in the area and he pointed me in a direction I did not expect and I really doubt its the best approach. He recommended us a recondicioned build (cant attach image but the full name is HP Z600 2XL5640 16GB W7 PRO) which is a dual processor z600 HP workstation and he then proceded to add a 1TB ssd and a GTX1650 OC 4gb. Everything would run us like 800€ or more cant remember. The thing even ran DDR3 rams, not to mention that it is used...

Is this good for everyday work? Isnt it better going with new parts and aim for longevity? Should I build one on my own? I kinda lost, I´ve built 1 pc in my life, the man has built hundreds

Would really appreciate the guidance

Coreldraw by itself does not have high reqs but then you get into what do you want to do with the app.

I might consider a 12500...just to get the better igp...16GB of ram and a ssd for storage.

It will certainly be better than what dad has now.

 

[scrantonstrangler]

Must be very old just 4GB of memory, what processor does he have right now?

All i remember is it runs at 2.00Ghz I think, havent looked at it in a while

 

[Lafong]

The Intel 12400 is on a big sale at Amazon for 160 bucks.....not sure for how long.

It's a strong CPU and that's very cheap for it.

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-124...el&qid=1651877999&sprefix=1240,aps,156&sr=8-1