X800XL vs. 6800GT

Pep · Mar 15, 2005

I've narrowed it down to those 2 cards for my new upgrade.

Which would be the smarter choice?

My current card is the RADEON 9500 PRO, a solid but aged product. The other hardware I have is a 2-year-old P4 2.4ghz running on a 533 bus motherboard. Replacing this hardware is a possibility but I would prefer to just replace the video card if I could.

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RichPLS · Mar 15, 2005

X800XL

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Rugger · Mar 15, 2005

Is the X800XL even out in AGP, yet?

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RichPLS · Mar 15, 2005

ehh, you're right, it is not.

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pauldh · Mar 15, 2005

Not only is it not available yet, but it will list for $350 ($50 over the PCI-e version) when it does come out. With AGP 6800GT's available now for under $350, I don't really see waiting on a X800XL AGP unless he just prefers ATI and is in no rush.

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cleeve · Mar 15, 2005

Either are great cards, and if you're buying AGP, the 6800GT is likely cheaper.

If you don't want to upgrade your platform, get the 6800GT.

Be aware though, although your 2,4 Ghz will get you by now, games a year from now will probably require a CPU upgrade for you.

But when that time comes, get yourself a nice Athlon64 Nforce3 socket 939 motherboard with AGP, and take your 6800GT with you.

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Guest · Mar 15, 2005

I thought the nf3 chipset was socket 754. Or did you mean the nf4 chipset?

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coylter · Mar 15, 2005

nf3 250 is also skt 939 and agp.

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Pep · Mar 15, 2005

Pretty helpful so far.

I'm not company-biased, just looking for the better product until my next upgrade (2 years from now).

I also heard that the x800 series doesn't support shader 3.0, while the nVidia 6000's do. Is that true? Are there any other (dis)advantages the X800 might have (I love games, but don't care for Doom 3 much -- more of a UT2004/Far Cry/Painkiller guy myself).

Also, if I DID decide to get a new motherboard, would it then make more sense to get the X800XL? The model I'm looking at is made by MSI. The 6800GT is made by ASUS.

Guest · Mar 15, 2005

Wow, I didn't know that. So that's a 939 agp board, that's pretty cool, nice option for the pci-e phobics

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Guest · Mar 15, 2005

It's really just a preference thing. You like camaroes or mustangs better? Look at the benches and available options on each, and then decide. I'd say that is SM 3.0 is important to you, then the 6800gt is for you. If not, then I would go for the x800xl. Then again the whole agp thing in your case, probably go for the 6800gt and skip the waiting.

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coylter · Mar 15, 2005

The best board you can get for agp 939 is this one <A HREF="http://www.legionhardware.com/html/doc.php?id=376" target="_new">http://www.legionhardware.com/html/doc.php?id=376</A>

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Rugger · Mar 15, 2005

nf3 250 is also skt 939 and agp.

Actually, the nF3 250 is s754 with AGP. nF3 Ultra is s939 with AGP.

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cleeve · Mar 15, 2005

(I love games, but don't care for Doom 3 much -- more of a UT2004/Far Cry/Painkiller guy myself).

In that case, the X800 XL is definitely the way to go. Nvidia's strength is in their OpenGL execution, which is pretty much only used by Doom3 and Quake games.

Radeons are the better bet with Half Life2, Far Cry, and UT.

The problem is, X800 XL's won't be out for AGP for a month or so. And the 6800GT is still very good in those titles, so if you're staying with AGP it's the one to buy.

But if you're considering a PCI-e board, X800 XL all the way.

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mozzartusm · Mar 15, 2005

I have a top of the line ASUS Mobo and love it, but I wouldnt buy an ASUS Video card. They are overpriced terribly bad. I would at least consider another brand.

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Johanthegnarler · Mar 16, 2005

ASUS products are bad luck for me. 🙁 but i was looking at the 6800GT or whatever on the shelf at evil best buy and it looked sweet. Kinda wanted to buy it on the spot ^^.

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KCjoker · Mar 16, 2005

My guess is pretty much what the others have said I'd go with the 6800GT if you're staying AGP but X800XL for PCI-E. Also I think Painkiller is an OpenGL game and with his CPU I think both cards will be a little bottlenecked. You can't really go wrong with either card so I'd go by price.

mozzartusm · Mar 16, 2005

How much was it?

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Guest · Mar 17, 2005

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GAME · Mar 17, 2005

Radeons are the better bet with Half Life2, Far Cry, and UT.

pfft! WTF is that BS?
Radeons are better in HL2/FC/UT?

Um ok!
NV is without question superior in OGL.. but just because that is true does NOT make ATI take home the gold in DX!

Far from it, they are about equal on driver performance in DX.
NV does exceptional in HL2/FC/UT..

And if he was to go PCIE, its not X800XL all the way.. what if he had a SLI NF4? I think from personal experience my 2x 6800GTs blow poo out the tailpipe all over a X800XL.. and SM3 is nothing to sneeze at.

While a X800XL (if you can get one for MSRP) is a great card.. but nothing to write home about besides price/performance.. its certainly lacking NVs gold standard drivers, SLI capability and SM3.
Things that certainly dont warrant a "hands down recommendation" for the 800XL..

Guest · Mar 17, 2005

Out of curiosity, I want to ask you a question GAME. How much did you spend on just your mainboard and 2 graphics cards?

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GAME · Mar 17, 2005

$925, right after christmas

why do you ask? is that the value of your home?
or do we have another stupendous, irrelevant cross examination coming up

are we attacking the price of the equipment because everything else i say is true?
i'll answer that: yes. plenty are doing it across the web.. bash SLI on whatever, even if you have to point to your own empty pocketbook.

this here, is america.. we are not stifled by socialism. i have plenty of cash for another measly 6800GT.. and I have a friend that said I can have a job at <A HREF="http://www.rockwellcollins.com/" target="_new">rockwell collins</A>. Defense contracts baby.
So I'm not too worried about another $400 6800GT, what else would I spend that money on? Food? Clothes? ya right.

Its 400bucks man.. when your only frivolous hobby is your computer and your cars.. its just not NEARLY as big of a deal as the 16yr old kids across the web make it out to be.

And.. they wont be using SLI.. which is just great for them

but theres no possible true emotion from ppl about SLI other than envy, its like a lamborghini.. you might bash one cuz you cant afford it (or just refuse to get it).. but you'd still take one over whatever the hell you are driving today!Edited by GAME on 03/17/05 03:53 AM.

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