Xbox 360 or Quad core ?

[kaotao]

None of them sound too tempting either.

The PC will pull ahead of the 360... just as it has done with all consoles. In a few years you will be quite a bit behind PC's standards... and than this argument will happen again with the xbox1080

BTW my friend James Linell lives in Lloydminister...

Oh please...........the PC is already ahead of the 360 and it will only continue to get farther and farther ahead as better hardware becomes availible for it.


My PC as listed pisses all over the 360

X2 4800@2.7ghz
X1900XT@ 730core 832mem
2gig DDR 400mem at 450mhz

I have also read many game articles about developers moving away from the PC as well. The bottom line is there is more profit in the consoles without all the headaches of hardware compatibility. So let’s face it, without support from developers where does PC gaming really stand in the long run.

Huh? You sir, are a moron. Please back up that rediculous statement with some links. I'll agree to disagree, and end this thread, but I just had to respond to that stupid, stupid statement.

 

[Whizzard9992]

None of them sound too tempting either.

The PC will pull ahead of the 360... just as it has done with all consoles. In a few years you will be quite a bit behind PC's standards... and than this argument will happen again with the xbox1080

BTW my friend James Linell lives in Lloydminister...

Oh please...........the PC is already ahead of the 360 and it will only continue to get farther and farther ahead as better hardware becomes availible for it.


My PC as listed pisses all over the 360

X2 4800@2.7ghz
X1900XT@ 730core 832mem
2gig DDR 400mem at 450mhz

I have also read many game articles about developers moving away from the PC as well. The bottom line is there is more profit in the consoles without all the headaches of hardware compatibility. So let’s face it, without support from developers where does PC gaming really stand in the long run.

Huh? You sir, are a moron. Please back up that rediculous statement with some links. I'll agree to disagree, and end this thread, but I just had to respond to that stupid, stupid statement.


Please google before name-calling....

PC gaming "becoming a niche" -- analysts speak

Hell, maybe we should just stop name-calling altogether 😉

The bottom line is that a lot more marketing dollars have been going into console gaming than PC gaming. I vaguely recall something about the head of Lionhead studios commenting on this, citing lack of proper marketing for PC games. The numbers speak for themselves: console gaming is up: PC gaming is down, regardless of personal perspective.

 

[mesarectifier]

Huh? You sir, are a moron. Please back up that rediculous statement with some links. I'll agree to disagree, and end this thread, but I just had to respond to that stupid, stupid statement.

I agree, what about all the devs complaining about how difficult the PS3 has been to develop games for. At least with a PC you've (sort of) had the same platform for aaaagggggeeeesssss - why would they suddenly get angry about it?

 

[exit2dos]

Aaaah, I see you started taking Ritalin. 8O

Good for you :!:

😀 😀

 

[Synergy6]

Please google before name-calling....

PC gaming "becoming a niche" -- analysts speak

Hell, maybe we should just stop name-calling altogether 😉

The bottom line is that a lot more marketing dollars have been going into console gaming than PC gaming. I vaguely recall something about the head of Lionhead studios commenting on this, citing lack of proper marketing for PC games. The numbers speak for themselves: console gaming is up: PC gaming is down, regardless of personal perspective.

One link? Just because someone calls themself an "analyst" and starts giving interviews, doesn't mean their "analysis" is worth much.

Oh, and as the "numbers speak for themselves", perhaps you could gift us poor plebians a few links to back up what you say. I don't see many numbers in your post, so it's difficult to judge a) what numbers you mean, and b) what those numbers are saying.
Synergy6

 

[exit2dos]

Granted, Retail PC game sales decline every year.

After all, if you looked at the PC retail sales numbers for 2005, PC gaming shows a sharp drop -- 14%! -- from the year before. And those numbers aren't new, as the market has been steadily declining since 2001.

But, it is in fact shifting to on-line:

In fact, PC gaming is far from slumping. Analysts predict that in 2009, retail sales will be relatively flat at $2.3 billion, but online revenues will approach $6.86 billion -- huge growth.

Link

 

[Whizzard9992]

Please google before name-calling....

PC gaming "becoming a niche" -- analysts speak

Hell, maybe we should just stop name-calling altogether 😉

The bottom line is that a lot more marketing dollars have been going into console gaming than PC gaming. I vaguely recall something about the head of Lionhead studios commenting on this, citing lack of proper marketing for PC games. The numbers speak for themselves: console gaming is up: PC gaming is down, regardless of personal perspective.

One link? Just because someone calls themself an "analyst" and starts giving interviews, doesn't mean their "analysis" is worth much.

Oh, and as the "numbers speak for themselves", perhaps you could gift us poor plebians a few links to back up what you say. I don't see many numbers in your post, so it's difficult to judge a) what numbers you mean, and b) what those numbers are saying.
Synergy6


As much as I'd like to spend all day debunking internet fallacies, fortunately there are enough public search engines that people can do research for themselves.

That is, of course, if their intent is truly to seek out facts and not just argue 😉

Besides, I'm at work and the "Smart Filter" blocks most game-related content. I'm sure you're capable of finding the statistics yourself.

 

[kaotao]

I'll take back the moron part, but I still stand by the rest of my response. PC gaming will be around for a long long time, just like consoles. PC gaming has always been somewhat of a niche market, with more marketing dollars going towards consoles. That's nothing new. It's not my opinion, it's reality.

 

[Whizzard9992]

Please google before name-calling....

PC gaming "becoming a niche" -- analysts speak

Hell, maybe we should just stop name-calling altogether 😉

The bottom line is that a lot more marketing dollars have been going into console gaming than PC gaming. I vaguely recall something about the head of Lionhead studios commenting on this, citing lack of proper marketing for PC games. The numbers speak for themselves: console gaming is up: PC gaming is down, regardless of personal perspective.

One link? Just because someone calls themself an "analyst" and starts giving interviews, doesn't mean their "analysis" is worth much.

Oh, and as the "numbers speak for themselves", perhaps you could gift us poor plebians a few links to back up what you say. I don't see many numbers in your post, so it's difficult to judge a) what numbers you mean, and b) what those numbers are saying.
Synergy6

Sorry: I never actually addressed your comment directly 😳

I'm referring to sales and marketing satistics for both console and PC gaming. As stated earlier, console gaming is ahead of PC gaming and its a trend that is increasing.

I picked an arbitrary link I pulled from a google search. I don't much agree with analysts anyway, but the numbers are out there (but as I said I can't get to them through my firewall at the moment). I just wanted to prove that it isn't just something someone was making up: a lot of analysts are singing the same tune about PC gaming. Stardock's frogboy mentions it a lot in his blogs for GalCiv2. There's a lot about it out there; you just have to look for it.

 

[troyg]

I agree that the PC has many more possiblities. I have 3 desktops and 4 laptops to cover my entire family. But I also have 2 Xbox 360's. I recently added 1TB of network storage and started filling with movies. By using Window Media Center on one of the desktops I have been able to access digitial pictures and the movies via the network through the Xbox 360 and show them on my HDTV. The Xbox is becoming much more than just a console so it is starting to have more options. My next try will be using the video camera for chatting with friends via Xbox Live. If strapped for cash and really wanting to just play games especially console games the Xbox is the way to go. But you will have some options to grow into if you want.

 

[NMDante]

As much as I would like to believe that DX10 and Vista will "turn" PC gaming around, that's a pretty optimistic view.

DX10 might help graphically, but it's still a new API, and will probably have a few bugs to work out, like DX9 had when it first came on scene.

As for Vista, well, I don't really see how this OS will make PC gaming much better than present day gaming.

If you're basing your opinion on upcoming games, MS Flight Sim X and Crysis, that's fine, but again, those a games that are still either in BETA or early development. AND, unless they want to lose money, both might come with DX9 compatiblity, or they might not sell as many units, since I am guessing alot of people won't upgrade to Vista for months after it's release.

I know I won't upgrade to Vista, unless MS decides to send a "kill all other Windows" update. I would rather wait until most of the serious bugs (and there will be some) are corrected, before jumping.

 

[Whizzard9992]

I'll take back the moron part, but I still stand by the rest of my response. PC gaming will be around for a long long time, just like consoles. PC gaming has always been somewhat of a niche market, with more marketing dollars going towards consoles. That's nothing new. It's not my opinion, it's reality.

I agree that PC gaming will not go away. In fact I believe it will make a 'comeback' sometime in 2H 2007 or 2008. Right now the console wars are so heated between Sony M$ and Nintendo that the market is just getting blasted with all of this attention towards consoles. This is going to affect sales, and we're going to see console sales overtake PC sales figures by a wide margin as a result.

Once the console wars cool down, we should see the trend reverse a bit, especially as it begins to be more common-place for homes to have more than one PC.

There are a lot of factors to consider, however. Where PCs will always dominate technologically because they are modular, consoles have the added benefit of being more difficult to hack, and it's cheaper to develop for consoles. It's a lot easier for someone to go download a CS:S hack from google (5 minutes) than it is for someone to mod thier xbox, then find a hack and play. Consoles are, will will continue to be, more secure (not secure, more secure than PCs).

Anyway, what it boils down to again is marketing figures. Marketing is driving console sales, and in the mean time PC developers are noticing the trend. M$, Sony, and Ninteno are all trying to come out on top, and investing heavily into it. Once that stops, we'll see the market normalize again.

The fact is that the PC is as viable a platform as any console, with seperate and distinct advantages and disadvantages. Currently, there are more positive factors driving console gaming than PC gaming. That will change once the next gen consoles are released and each takes their place.

On a side note, I think an advancement in DRM and "anti-cheat" mechanisms for the PC will assist greatly in PC game sales. It's one thing to get a $20 CD KEY banned, and it's something else entirely to get your $300 360 serial banned from Live!.

 

[Yano 25]

Get u a core 2 quad pc it way better then the 360 it will let u game for a very long time