quantumsheep
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You actually enjoy being disinterested in your surroundings and daydreaming about Matt Damon?
hahahahahaha! :lol:
Some people do still know how to crack a good'n.
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I think I am the only person left in north america under the age of 40 that does not own a game console. In fact I have never owned a game console. I'm a PC gamer, I have tried to play games on consoles and think they lack something. The consoles don't allow for what I call real gaming...
I like being able to play games like WWC, Joint Opps. Ever try to play any kind of Real-Time Strategy game on a console??? How about Role-Playing??? Can you play Turn-Based Strategy??? And for those reasons I will never own a console system. And on top of all that, I like moding my system and you can't do that with a console...yet.
Oh Here is a word of advise for those of you have not noticed.
Never buy a game for the PC that also is made for the PS3! They will sux!
Also as long a there is a market for pc games like the ones above, then there will always be a PC that will play it better than a console.
I like being able to play games like WWC, Joint Opps. Ever try to play any kind of Real-Time Strategy game on a console??? How about Role-Playing??? Can you play Turn-Based Strategy??? And for those reasons I will never own a console system. And on top of all that, I like moding my system and you can't do that with a console...yet.
Oh Here is a word of advise for those of you have not noticed.
Never buy a game for the PC that also is made for the PS3! They will sux!
Also as long a there is a market for pc games like the ones above, then there will always be a PC that will play it better than a console.
Cosole gaming is good, but you will have alot cut out when it comes to multi-player, such as having to go Live, also you will get cut out of a lot of good games, such as World of Warcraft (i could be wrong, as i thought i heard they were making a xbox360 port)
why will PC gaming drop.. if anything it should rise. lets think about it . . everyone needs a pc at home for email. word, interne, .. and some need it for CAD, video/audio editing, and Math.
so you becsue you are a basic pc user you are willing to spend $400-$600 on a low end pc. now you also want to play games.. i think that it would be better to add $400 to you pc allowing you to play games and saving you the extra money that consoles cost. each console game costs extra money to make up for the loss from selling the console so the pc is better and the games are cheaper ..
no time to spellcheck . . GTG ... Class ...physics 341
so you becsue you are a basic pc user you are willing to spend $400-$600 on a low end pc. now you also want to play games.. i think that it would be better to add $400 to you pc allowing you to play games and saving you the extra money that consoles cost. each console game costs extra money to make up for the loss from selling the console so the pc is better and the games are cheaper ..
no time to spellcheck . . GTG ... Class ...physics 341
jaguarskx
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I think building a gaming machine around Kentsfield is simply an idiotic idea. While the number of games that supports multi-cores is slowly growing, they are still few in numbers. Some games are not even optimized very well for dual cores; Oblivion is an example. I recall reading a review that showed the increase between a single and dual core CPU clocked the same speed was about 10% or perhaps less. However, other games like Quake 4 with the proper patch showed a substantial increase; about 40%.
Since you already have an overclocked X2 3800+ PC with a 7900GT, I'll say that's good enough for gaming. It could be better, but it is definitely no slouch.
I would say that the Xbox 360 graphics is comparable with the what you can get on the PC right now. But the PC is upgradeable and will eventually exceed the quality of the Xbox 360; but you have to drop the money for a good DX10 card. One good thing about console games is that you will not need to worry about hardware. If you buy a game for the 360 three years from now you'll be guaranteed that it will be playable on the 360 that you buy this year. Not so with the PC. While the graphics on the PC will eventually be better, you may need to buy a new GPU to play a game three years from now to play at the highest settings.
My advice is forget about the graphics and focus on gameplay. Are there any games coming out on the 360 that you want to buy? What type of games do you play? Some games will simply not come out on a console because the style of the game may not appeal to many people, or you'll need to buy a keyboard to play it properly.
We all know FPS are great on both PC and consoles, some people prefer using the gamepad rather than keyboard and mouse. But what about real time strategy games or turn based strategy games? There are ususally too many commands for the gamepad without having to resort to drilling down on menu after menu to go to the command you want. Civilization 4 for the Xbox? No way.
Since you already have an overclocked X2 3800+ PC with a 7900GT, I'll say that's good enough for gaming. It could be better, but it is definitely no slouch.
I would say that the Xbox 360 graphics is comparable with the what you can get on the PC right now. But the PC is upgradeable and will eventually exceed the quality of the Xbox 360; but you have to drop the money for a good DX10 card. One good thing about console games is that you will not need to worry about hardware. If you buy a game for the 360 three years from now you'll be guaranteed that it will be playable on the 360 that you buy this year. Not so with the PC. While the graphics on the PC will eventually be better, you may need to buy a new GPU to play a game three years from now to play at the highest settings.
My advice is forget about the graphics and focus on gameplay. Are there any games coming out on the 360 that you want to buy? What type of games do you play? Some games will simply not come out on a console because the style of the game may not appeal to many people, or you'll need to buy a keyboard to play it properly.
We all know FPS are great on both PC and consoles, some people prefer using the gamepad rather than keyboard and mouse. But what about real time strategy games or turn based strategy games? There are ususally too many commands for the gamepad without having to resort to drilling down on menu after menu to go to the command you want. Civilization 4 for the Xbox? No way.
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My computer resents the implication that it isn't gaming worthy, the only game I can't play at full detail is Oblivion, (thought Fable with 4x AA chugs a little and I think FEAR would probably kill it), and I spent about $800.
quantumsheep
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I'm pretty sure the lead designer of WoW confirmed that it would not be coming to 360.
But quite why anyone would want a game with a boredom factor as large as WoW's is beyond me. Spend 10 hours mindlessly chopping away at monsters to level up? No thanks.
quantumsheep
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I think you are refering to Oblivion??
In Oblivion you don't actually need to level up at al to finish the game. I have finished the game at level 2. It's actually easier that way.
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If you got around 3500 to burn, go right ahead and order your new PC, with all the trimmings 😉 lol
I'd never purchase an Xbox 360, i think the graphics aren't as good as they are and will be on a PC, nor am i too hot about the PS3... (although some of the games that are coming for the PS3 i am interested in for sure, so i might purchase it to play those must have 8-12 games, yeah i know expensive toy)
I'd never purchase an Xbox 360, i think the graphics aren't as good as they are and will be on a PC, nor am i too hot about the PS3... (although some of the games that are coming for the PS3 i am interested in for sure, so i might purchase it to play those must have 8-12 games, yeah i know expensive toy)
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Oh please...........the PC is already ahead of the 360 and it will only continue to get farther and farther ahead as better hardware becomes availible for it.
My PC as listed pisses all over the 360
X2 4800@2.7ghz
X1900XT@ 730core 832mem
2gig DDR 400mem at 450mhz
Thank you. I'm glad someone finally said that.
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wait a year to get the console, so u see wich is better, personally i say upgrade ur pc to dx10, then at the end of the year get a ps3 or wii cuz they will hav the most diff games from pc
i get consoles for games i cant get on pc, not for its power, although no one would argue that the gfx are bad on the new consoles
i get consoles for games i cant get on pc, not for its power, although no one would argue that the gfx are bad on the new consoles
well thats not really true.. all xbox games dont make full use of the systems hardware. anytime you read about a developer for a console, they always say that they havent mastered programming for the console till the end of its lifespan. so right now games are probly only usin 20 - 30 % of the 360's capabilities.
I partially agree with you, although I never said make full use of the use XBOX hardware. It probably take 2nd or 3rd gen to do that.
What I was refering to is from a developer point of view, all XBOX will pretty much have the same hardware so their games will make use of all the hardware available.
For the PC, dual core is quite recent. So games in development will not be able to take advantage of them. Even next gen will be a tough call because not many people will have a dual core, let alone a quad core. The developer will have to decide whether to optimize their games for it or wait a bit longer.
What could happen is people like Intel and AMD to give incentives to some developers to have special versions for dual cores machines to speed up the take up of these chips.
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I have a 360 and I have to say I've been a bit dissapointed. The system rocks, don't get me wrong, but the title selection just plain sucks. I barely use it, and when I do, it's either Halo 2 or oblivion.
I'd say do neither, and wait until the PS3 and Wii make their debut. Make your decision when all cards have been played.
Right now, to me, the Wii seems very promising.
Also, the 360 is $300 for the base model... A 360 with all the fixings will run you $700 tops. A quad-core PC is going to be like double that....
Not a fair comparison really.
I'd say do neither, and wait until the PS3 and Wii make their debut. Make your decision when all cards have been played.
Right now, to me, the Wii seems very promising.
Also, the 360 is $300 for the base model... A 360 with all the fixings will run you $700 tops. A quad-core PC is going to be like double that....
Not a fair comparison really.
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ummmm yes it is....
http://games.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1396/Crysis/
http://www.ps3land.com/preview-32.php
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Oh please...........the PC is already ahead of the 360 and it will only continue to get farther and farther ahead as better hardware becomes availible for it.
My PC as listed pisses all over the 360
X2 4800@2.7ghz
X1900XT@ 730core 832mem
2gig DDR 400mem at 450mhz
I will never dispute the fact that technology wise the PC will have the advantage because it is upgradeable. However, it is not technology I believe that will determine which way this will go. The fact remains that it is much simpler to play games on a console. You don’t have to worry about crashes, memory, video card, etc. Just put the game in and play. For the price of a high to mid video card you can buy an Xbox 360 now with games. So as a platform the console is a cheaper solution in most cases. I have also read many game articles about developers moving away from the PC as well. The bottom line is there is more profit in the consoles without all the headaches of hardware compatibility. So let’s face it, without support from developers where does PC gaming really stand in the long run. It may not have the prettiest game compared to the PC but it is still fun to play, which is why we love games in the first place. By the way, an Xbox 360 will support a USB keyboard. How times have changed!
Synergy6
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Uhm, what advances in videogames haven't in some way been related to an increase in technology? Better graphics, sound, physics, AI all need better technology. Even better gameplay can "need" it, in the sense that the better the technology the more imaginative developers can get with fully realising their initial goals, rather than knowing there are things they want to do but simply can't with current tech.
Agreed, I suppose. But if you have the intelligence to post on forums, the "difficulty" of installing and playing a PC game shouldn't be too hard.
Couple of things here. Consoles can crash too, I guess you didn't get either of the close-to-release Xboxs/PS2s. I wouldn't bring up "games" if I were you, in the cost section, as console games (especially Xbox360) are often FAR more expensive, and retain their value longer, whereas PC games are quicker to fall into the "Bargain bin". So, cheaper solution for what? In the short term, sure. But in the long term, I'd argue the cost isn't all that different, when you consider that after 5yrs a PC is still useful for some things. When you get your Xbox3, what use is the 360?
Ahem. I be needing lots of linkies.
More profit to the console manufacturers, sure. More to companies? Maybe. Just remember that just about all development is done on PCs anyway, so making a console game isn't any easier. Also, when selling a PC game you have a larger market.
Where does it stand? Well, yesterday, it stood as the premier gaming platform. Today, much the same. And tomorrow? I'm guessing the same. Note I didn't say "cheapest", or even "most money efficient", I just said "premier." Once again, I really need some links on all this "PC developers are ditching the ... PC" stuff.
I think a PS2 supports a keyboard too. Who actually bought one? Unless there is some serious push to support it, most people won't bother. After all, if you follow that line, what you end up with is a limited, technologically languishing, cheap PC which mostly only plays expensive games.
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Can we just end this thread with agreeing to disagree guys? Everyone likes different things, its a part of life. You aren't going to convert anyone from PC gaming to 360 gaming or vice versa.
Anyone agree with me?
Anyone agree with me?
Whizzard9992
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If I say no, does that mean I'm disagreeing to agree to disagree? If so, would a prudent resolution be to agree to disagree to agree to disagree? Or would I be disagreeing to agree to agree to disagree?
I like pie.
quantumsheep
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If I say no, does that mean I'm disagreeing to agree to disagree? If so, would a prudent resolution be to agree to disagree to agree to disagree? Or would I be disagreeing to agree to agree to disagree?
I like pie.
Hehe.
quantumsheep
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