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This post actually takes up on an earlier thread called FSB ripoff. In a nutshell, I bought an HP ZV5330US model laptop as it touted its 800 fsb. Frankly, I did not look at it as closely as I should have as I have since discovered that the memory supported is only 333.(my wife decided it was too heavy and stuck me with it). I called HP and after several go rounds with non-native English manglers they "escalatered my case" and, surprisingly, I was actually called back. The rep was nice and agreed with me that this machine can never perform as a real 800 fsb machine because of the memory bottleneck. He also said:
1. We can get away with lying about this because everyone else does it.
2. Our warranty has some fine print that allows us to do that.
3. Most of the buying public will never know because they are all ignorant and overbuy their machine's capacity by a long shot anyway.
4. Someone(s) sometime recently tried a class action suit on this or a similar issue and it fizzled.
I must admit I was very appreciative of his personal honesty though appalled at the lack of same on the part of his employer.

My analogy is this: If Ford advertised its Mustang GT's as having 600 HP all over the advertising media and its brochures, but then sold all of them with a hp governer so that the engine would only develop say, 300; I would think they would end up with a class action law suit on them quicker than snot. How the heck is the technology industry exempt?
In any case, the chipset on this puppy is ATI-RS300 m(northbridge) and Ati-SD200(southbridge) The cpu is a 3.2 P4
I ran one bios string utility on it that could not read it. Everest home edition did however. The company that decapitated this board's bios is Phoenix. My direction now is to learn how to read their bios string and from that decipher the OEM board/chipset model numbers with an eye towards reflashing the board should:
1. hp not have made any sneaky little proproprietal hardware or printed circuit board switch changes.
2. The chipset's native bios does support ddr400.

The HP rep told me that this chipset was absolutely only made for ddr 333. I have extreme doubts as to the truth of that. Particularly, as when I briefly searched last night, I found some indiccations that there are boards with that exact chipset supporting ddr 400. I say indicated because all these sights were in either in an oriental, tuetonic, or slavic language. If anyone happens to already know this information and could reply and/or advise that would be great.

TY
 
If you can read the BIOS string on bootup (usually displayed at the bottom of the screen), then <A HREF="http://www.wimsbios.com/" target="_new">WimsBios</A> Can point you in the right direction regarding manufacturer etc.

I've never heard of a chipset that wouldn't support RAM running at the same speed as the FSB. Most have the option to run slower RAM of course, and there have been chipsets that supported higher RAM speeds than they did FSB (VIA's KT133 and KT333 for instance)

They're not technically incorrect to market it as 800FSB though, if it's actually a 800FSB chip, just because the RAM isn't running synchronously with it...

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