Your Experience with Windows 10

[James Mason]

I was one of the people who prefered the 98/me windows UI at first, but after wards I just went for the silver colored xp theme.
But I didn't rave about it, and I didn't have a problem with the XP scheme except for the colors.
Those who aren't willing to learn and adapt are destined to fail.

That said, One Direction and Justin Bieber are 1000x worse than N-Sync and Britney Spears.

 

[zephyrrct]

EDIT: Just checked out Amazon.com's reviews of Windows 10 and...ouch, negative reception

And people have said exactly the same, for every MS graphical operating system, back to Windows 95, or even 3.0. Every single one.
oohhh...this sux!...I don't like the colors...They dumbed it down too much.

The only person that it matters to is you. Do you like it?
If yes, keep using it.
If no, go use something else.

Actually, you keep saying that, but I dont think it was as widely spread as you would think. As for myself I liked XP when it came out. I wasn't a huge fan of vista/7 transparent design, but I didn't really mind.


But it's funny how apple, google and linux can release an OS and no one says it's ugly. Ppl might not be familiar with the os, but no one whines about how ugly it is. think about that.

MS could do much better, but they don't! No wonder they are getting their ass kicked!

Plenty of people criticized iOS7, and people still criticize Android (although a lot of its UX problems are due to manufacturers). I think people are used to frequent UX changes and upgrades on their phones and tablets, and expect the same from Microsoft. Where Microsoft is in the wrong is what to change. Most people probably just want subtle changes (animations, colors, icons, etc.), but at least with 8, Microsoft assumed we wanted something radically different.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Hmm, I'm confused.
I've got 4 computers on windows 10 now.
2 of them were upgraded from the same windows 8.1 pro product key.
Neither of them complain about being non-genuine.
And I think all 4 of them now have the same windows insider key.

Belarc now says this:

Microsoft - Windows 8.1 Professional (x64) #####-#####-#####-AA006 (Key: ends with #####)f (i've #'d them out)
f. The full product key is not stored on this computer. However, the characters shown uniquely identify your product key.

The CMD command that is supposed to show the product key doesn't display anything for me either.

And I found my answer here: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/windows-10-product-key/3380f59d-c8af-4fda-940c-0c15ce516553?auth=1

But the fact windows isn't complaining about me using the same "product key" to get windows 10 on two computers is disconcerting.

Everybody could have the same key, but if your unique product hardware id string in the bios doesn't show as being associated with that key on their activation servers, I'd guess that's when you'd have trouble.

 

[ToineF]

I was one of the people who prefered the 98/me windows UI at first, but after wards I just went for the silver colored xp theme.
But I didn't rave about it, and I didn't have a problem with the XP scheme except for the colors.
Those who aren't willing to learn and adapt and destined to fail.

That said, One Direction and Justin Bieber are 1000x worse than N-Sync and Britney Spears.

i am studying to pass my CCNA and I am starting to take linux and windows server classes on top of my job. Seriously I am all for learning. But here we are talking about aesthetic. It has nothing to do with knowledge and education. It has to do with the colour you want to paint your room. Very different.

 

[Darkbreeze]

If you have Windows 10, then you already have DX12. Run dxdiag.exe and you'll see that it's already installed. Whether or not hardware developers provide support for any of it's features is a strictly separate issue but it should be unrelated to getting current drivers to at least work without major issues.

Mine still says 11.1.

I wonder what's up with that as both my desktop and laptop have directx 12. Perhaps it has to do with whether or not the GPU card supports directx 12 features. Maybe on systems that have adapters that don't support it, it installs the older version.

 

[James Mason]

Hmm, I'm confused.
I've got 4 computers on windows 10 now.
2 of them were upgraded from the same windows 8.1 pro product key.
Neither of them complain about being non-genuine.
And I think all 4 of them now have the same windows insider key.

Belarc now says this:

Microsoft - Windows 8.1 Professional (x64) #####-#####-#####-AA006 (Key: ends with #####)f (i've #'d them out)
f. The full product key is not stored on this computer. However, the characters shown uniquely identify your product key.

The CMD command that is supposed to show the product key doesn't display anything for me either.

And I found my answer here: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/windows-10-product-key/3380f59d-c8af-4fda-940c-0c15ce516553?auth=1

But the fact windows isn't complaining about me using the same "product key" to get windows 10 on two computers is disconcerting.

Everybody could have the same key, but if your unique product hardware id string in the bios doesn't show as being associated with that key on their activation servers, I'd guess that's when you'd have trouble.

The thing that worries me is that they didn't do it yet, and it's already been a few days.
That and there actually seems to be a lot of pirates not having any problems upgrading to windows 10.

 

[James Mason]

If you have Windows 10, then you already have DX12. Run dxdiag.exe and you'll see that it's already installed. Whether or not hardware developers provide support for any of it's features is a strictly separate issue but it should be unrelated to getting current drivers to at least work without major issues.

Mine still says 11.1.

I wonder what's up with that as both my desktop and laptop have directx 12. Perhaps it has to do with whether or not the GPU card supports directx 12 features. Maybe on systems that have adapters that don't support it, it installs the older version.

I'm not 100% sure but I think it might require you have a program installed that actually uses DX12, like 3DMark, maybe it just requires the latest drivers.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I think that will change in 30 days or so when the activation servers double check things, but who knows. What I meant was, it wouldn't matter if they issued the same key to everybody, because if that machine didn't have a valid installation with a registered BIOS ID then it's either not going to activate or not going to stay activated. At least according to what MS has said. Maybe they decided to forego activation altogether but just wanted to see how many copies of windows they can sell before announcing that publicly. Probably not, but with MS, who ever knows why they do anything.

 

[Darkbreeze]

If you have Windows 10, then you already have DX12. Run dxdiag.exe and you'll see that it's already installed. Whether or not hardware developers provide support for any of it's features is a strictly separate issue but it should be unrelated to getting current drivers to at least work without major issues.

Mine still says 11.1.

I wonder what's up with that as both my desktop and laptop have directx 12. Perhaps it has to do with whether or not the GPU card supports directx 12 features. Maybe on systems that have adapters that don't support it, it installs the older version.

I'm not 100% sure but I think it might require you have a program installed that actually uses DX12, like 3DMark, maybe it just requires the latest drivers.

I can't imagine they'd code the OS to install a directx version that wasn't supported by your graphics card, so I'm pretty sure the version installed has to depend on that. There is plenty of hardware that is supported using the latest drivers, but that does not support DirectX 12.

 

[USAFRet]

Yes, I do keep saying that, because that's what happened.
Especially if you go by Amazon user reviews.

Some people don't like change. They want a new OS (for some reason), but want it to look exactly like what they had 3 versions ago. When it looks different, "IT SUX!"

Yes, why not have an option to have it look like 3 versions ago?

We all need new OS for security reasons and of course to support new technology. If you are a gamer you will need win10 for DX12.

If you have a new laptop you are forced to have the new ugly UI, but they dont sell the older laptops with windows 7 or XP anymore.

So yeah... maybe they should simply have an option to have the old look back. For many reasons.... Or maybe they should have a nicer one to shut ppl up.

If you have Windows 10, then you already have DX12. Run dxdiag.exe and you'll see that it's already installed. Whether or not hardware developers provide support for any of it's features is a strictly separate issue but it should be unrelated to getting current drivers to at least work without major issues.

Mine still says 11.1.

I wonder what's up with that as both my desktop and laptop have directx 12. Perhaps it has to do with whether or not the GPU card supports directx 12 features. Maybe on systems that have adapters that don't support it, it installs the older version.

Could be the GPU. This is running on the CPU internal:

 

[USAFRet]

So, my main PC finally got the "Get Started" button, just today.
So for anyone who doesn't have it yet and is getting impatient....just wait. It will happen eventually.

Of course, this PC won't be upgraded for a few days at the earliest. Based on the other PC's in the house, the upgrade went just fine.
But I'm in no hurry with this one. Maybe this is the time to switch the boot drive to the newish 250GB SSD vs the old 120GB SSD.

 

[nukemaster]

My girlfriend's system was downloading Windows 10 today. The kicker is she NEVER reserved it so it was just sitting filling the Windows~RT or whatever it is folder(Nice to be ready, but maybe give that to others first unless it plans to use users to peer share the update. That is not ideal).

I uninstalled the update responsible because I do not need things downloading without permission and it kept the files. Had to take ownership of the folder all sub folders and files(added my self with full control for good measure) and removed it all.

I have the ISO so IF she wants this OS, it will be done that way.

 

[Darkbreeze]

It does peer share the updates, unless you turn the option off. But I'm pretty sure it can't do it until after the upgrade.


On another note, I repasted my CPU on my m6 laptop, which didn't change a thing as far as temps go, and it was clean as a whistle inside. So I then did a clean install of 8.1, then upgraded to 10 and now both my desktop and laptop are running 10 without any further issues. It must have not liked something from the old installation but at least it didn't black screen this time.

 

[dredmix]

I haven't tried yet to update, it's reserved and ready to install. But since I eared about the problems with compatibility and drivers I think I'm to wait for a couple of week until they fix some of that stuff.

I have some productivity software installed on my machine like Adobe CS6 and Cinema 4D r16, so it will probably be some compatibility issues, or maybe not.

Because I do need that software for work, I will stay with 8.1 for now.

Did any one tested this software Adobe CS6 and / or Cinema 4D?

Cheers!

 

[elmie]

I like it so far have the Enterprise edition at work, is quick, is as good as Windows 8.1 and I love that too, too bad not many bright ppl in this world can figure out how to use windows 8.1. I wonder if anyone will ever evolve from the "lets do 50 clicks on explorer to look for things - instead of typing out what you looking for on the search bar." rofl.
I cant wait to test it out on my setup. DX12 so excited.

 

[unplanned bacon]

So far, I'm not impressed.This is essentially Windows 8.2 (and 8.1 annoyed me more than enough). Running into a number of issues, affecting all inbuilt apps. I know this is a new OS and there'll be bugs, but some stuff looks like it should have been caught a long time ago. A couple of things I've had
- Auto corruption during sfc /scannow relating to a folder that doesn't exist
- Inbuilt apps crash randomly
- Mail app inboxes don't work. You get stuck in one inbox, or it just won't accept settings (Gmail) even if they're correct
- The start menu is a bit cumbersome, it's okay, but 7, Vista and XP had this right. The inclusion of tiles in the start menu is redundant (Action Centre shows the same thing as does Cortana), as does the desktop (I'm removing tiles and desktop icons so that programs only appear in the list. Speaking of redundancy, there's control panel and settings. Don't these two do the same thing?
- Cortana goes comatose a lot and does not respond to Hey Cortana, even if the program clearly heard you (had instances where it types Hey Cortana and then says it heard nothing
- Cortana is kind of pointless, since it pretty much Bings most things which I can just do myself. It's great for once in a while stuff and the weather, but I tried it for a bit yesterday and then got bored of it
- Programs say they install, but are nowhere to be found
- The flat pastel design is ugly imo, bring back the colour from from XP (anyone remember that silver theme) and/or aero from Vista and 7
- Indexing never finishes. It's been 4 days, it still claims to be indexing
- Edge. Tried it, went back to Chrome. No add ons available, like Ghostery and Adblock
- Game bar doesn't work. Crashes when it attempts to do anything or just doesn't show up at all

There's also way too much dead space everywhere, which ties into the pastel colours thing. Y u no make a pretty looking OS for once (see 7, Vista and XP)
^ Some of those issues I saw were reported when this was beta, so why are they still here?

Also, this is minor, but the placement and spacing of the window resize controls in Metro apps is off. X has a huge amount of space compared to the other two buttons and minimise is not correctly lined up in its spot. They've changed the sizing of the taskbar icons so they're smaller now, don't know why, but they have

Suggestions:
- The calendar on the taskbar should link to the Windows calendar so you can see what events you've got coming

On the plus side it is stable, but other than that Windows 10 is all hype train. See whether I think different by the end of the week. Considering sticking 8.1 back on this once I've got what I want from it. Some of the talked about features I don't need or don't care about (Xbox One to PC streaming. I don't own an Xbox One, at this time I never will and my PC can do just as good a job as the One can, if not better. Don't need the game bar, but tried it, will be sticking to Shadowplay).

This is the middle of day 4. On day 1 (or 2) after playing around with it for a bit, saw there wasn't much to write home about in 10. Failing to find 10 features I like from it so far

 

[Mike BD]

Yes, why not have an option to have it look like 3 versions ago?
We all need new OS for security reasons and of course to support new technology. If you are a gamer you will need win10 for DX12.
If you have a new laptop you are forced to have the new ugly UI, but they dont sell the older laptops with windows 7 or XP anymore.
So yeah... maybe they should simply have an option to have the old look back. For many reasons.... Or maybe they should have a nicer one to shut ppl up.

That's endless...
''One by each'' strategy kills me since 2012. (when Windows 8 did show up)
It brought a new DX. (just as Windows 10 does now)
It were promising a better security in Windows than ever before.
Even so,Windows got bricked by changing one bit in the system's resources.
However,at the moment we do talk about Windows 10,only 18-20% of the PC users did use Windows 8/8.1.
Meh,3 years later...more than 50% of us do use Windows 7.
Why?
Because,despite its new capabilities (new DX,etc.) Windows 8 won't get any more used if nowadays games do use DX11;and not many do need mobile features as Windows 8 did offer.
I suppose the same thing will happen with DX 12 and Windows 10.

 

[Darkbreeze]

The feature I was most looking for, well maybe not MOST, but had certainly hoped would be addressed finally, was the disconnection to networked drives requiring a refresh of the connection after a period of inactivity, but unfortunately although MS has been aware of this for several OS versions going all the way back to Vista I believe, it's still a problem. It IS rather discouraging considering it's not a new issue and they've been aware of it for a long time.

 

[Rafael Mestdag]

So far for me at least, it's been a mixture of the best on Win8.1 and Win7, the only thing I'd change(I don't understand why MS haven't) is the UI, it should've stayed the way it was on Win7, all MS had to do was incorporate the new ideas.

 

[Archgaull]

Has anyone else noticed a better compression quality? I ask because I never was able to compress files that well, but I was uploading a file to my google drive when I noticed the difference, the source folder was 1.5GB, and the compressed .zip file was only 553 MB. This seems to be much better than anything I ever achieved on Windows 7.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I imagine the new compression technology used for the OS files would be applied to other files as well. Just a guess, but I'd think it is accurate to at least some degree.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/2062/microsoft-explains-os-compression-in-windows-10

 

[RIOUXGRANDE]

My computer is now sitting dormant with a BLANK screen and no functionality due to Windows 10 and what I believe is incompatibility with my Nvidia GPU. Soooo my experience is a big fat 0/10 right now.

 

[Darkbreeze]

There are NO strictly incompatible Nvidia cards that I'm aware of. There are however driver problems aplenty. I'd recommend trying to enter via safe mode, run the wagnard tools display driver uninstaller and install the latest Windows 10 GPU card drivers. If you already installed the latest Nvidia windows 10 drivers then something else is likely to blame.

 

[RIOUXGRANDE]

There are NO strictly incompatible Nvidia cards that I'm aware of. There are however driver problems aplenty. I'd recommend trying to enter via safe mode, run the wagnard tools display driver uninstaller and install the latest Windows 10 GPU card drivers. If you already installed the latest Nvidia windows 10 drivers then something else is likely to blame.

Well yes, I worded that incorrectly. The catch is, I installed Windows 10, was able to access my desktop as normal and everything functioned properly with the exception of my display resolution was the lowest it could be and I was unable to change it. I went to check for a GPU driver update and sure enough there was one for Windows 10. I went to install it and it failed and stated that I needed to restart my computer. I then restarted my computer and now I am no longer able to even log into my desktop so therefore I am unable to enter into safe mode.

I have booted from my windows 8.1 installation disc and I am unable to perform a system restore, reset, repair or anything. My only option seems to be a clean install of windows 8.1. I am trying to find a possible solution or answer to why this has happened, prior to wiping my SSD with the clean install. I hope you follow what I am trying to describe.

 

[unplanned bacon]

I've sorted my desktop out so it's tidy now. My 8.1 way of working generated a lot of redundancy. Also, anyone notice the taskbar uses transparency really well, but they didn't carry this over to the windows. We could have seen the evolution of aero instead of the dead space we have.

Now to sort my live tiles!

I took a leaf out of the way I work on my MacBook:


EDIT: Can't sort my taskbar out, because my right click has broken on app icons. Seriously? I've fixed the issue now. It was one of the apps I had installed under 8.1 which was causing it. I just hate bugs! 😛