2,500 Players Banned From Cheating in MW2

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Honestly.... I have seen more obvious hackers on MW2 since november than I have ever seen on COD4. I have no idea why they think that VAC is going to make this better game play. Sure getting pb client authenication errors sucked (COD4/PB).. so what `/reconnect back in game in two seconds.... In MW2 I cant play a game with more than 5 of my clan members including me unless its Dom or TDM (fail gametypes) and when I do join a game with 6 ppl in a party it can take 5-10 minutes to find a game!!! and we're all located in North America! I love the nice break in the middle of a fire fight when MW2 decides to pick a new host... or when two ppl have four bars of performance and the rest have 2 bars or 3.... I totally agree with what buddy worte of top.... This game was supposed to be an improvement on the previous game.... MW2 is by no means an improvement, it sucks...
 
"Ok, try again."

Hello,

I've been searching for a way to contact Infinity Ward. This is the first location I could find.

I've been playing the game pretty regularly for about two weeks now. Time enough to finish the SP on high difficulty and to get a lot of MP experience on the different maps. Essentially, I've given the game enough time for me to get used to the changes and evaluate it effectively.

Let me say - CONGRATULATIONS! This is one of the best MP games I've played. The maps are excellent, the weapons fun, the perks and kill streak options make for innumerable combos. Even more than COD4(which I still play), I can see this being a game I would play for years to come.

I've gotten over the STEAM requirement. I, personally, HATE having a 3rd party connected to my PC. At first I thought... ok fine... combined with PB and PsB maybe it will offer greater protection from cheaters. Cool with me. But now it has become clear that there is no GOOD reason for this forced invasion as VAC is openly mocked by hack users. Just as Steam is mocked by downloaders.

You'd think with all of these maps and great options, truly the game I've been waiting for for YEARS... that I'd be LOVING it and playing non-stop like I did when I was eleven, some twenty years ago. But that is not the case.

Honestly, I feel cheated. I've never before been motivated to contact a game company over any topic with their program. This is a first for me. The potential for MW2 has been severely limited for me. So much so that I really don't enjoy MP most of the time.

My concern is this: there is no individuality, nor is there any policing of the servers. There are no watchful Admins with ban lists - truly the single most effective form of blocking cheaters. There are no servers for custom games/rules. There is no way to connect with this or that group of players who you have played against for years on other programs. I can't see the map being played beforehand. There is no allowance for smaller number of players. There is no way to set a limit for max number of players.

I realize the reality of production. I am a VP in a healthcare company and understand that the game is a business venture, and that the greatest income will likely come from the console platforms. Therefore, MW2 has been designed to cater to the Run-and-Gun or Spray-and-Pray setting that is the best platform players can manage with thumbstick controllers. I can't speak for the console community, as I don't normally play FPS games on anything but a PC. Though I wonder what frustrations they may express over the limited server options as well.

Now, I believe that most people can live with the game under the current server setups if they knew that they were able to play the game without others taking undue advantage by using cheat programs. A simple shrug of the shoulder, ah well, let's keep blastin'. But the cheat frequency is currently higher than ANY other FPS MP game I have played in the last decade. Bar none. That is a situation which warrants attention.

I have gone to the cheat/hack sites. MW2Hacks.net and 187ci.com are the first I came across. Perhaps there are others. In reading the list of options, it helps me to identify odd behavior in other players. As a background note, I am sometimes accused of being a cheater myself once I master a game / map / weapon, etc. So I have some experience determining what is possible through skill or experience versus someone who is augmenting their abilities. Thus far, I am encountering blatant cheat use in 1 out of every 3 maps I play.

One in Three.

From a players' perspective, that means one of several things. You stick it out and win or lose unfairly, hoping they leave at the next map...but they never do.

Ok, so we'll try again on another server. Only now we run into the topics I mentioned above. We just got auto-bounced back to the SAME server you just tried to leave because we have no choice.

Ok, try again. This time you get auto-added directly to a game in progress... but then you are on a team that is getting slammed hard, possibly by another cheater.

Ok, try again. This time, you get bounced to a server that has 3 seconds before it starts and you get stuck before you realize it's a map you don't want to play.

Ok, try again. Alright, you get a decent map this time, start playing, and then realize that there is NO balance of skill... the other team are all Level 60 or higher and you have a bunch of noobs. Good lucK!

Ok, try again. We get lucky. WOO! We finally have a good map with mixed players. The game starts. Your team does ok. All is going well. Two minutes in, it switches host... before it drops to the lobby and loses the host.

Ok....TRY...AGAIN. I don't care WHAT crappy map this is, I'm staying here and playing this time. It's been 15 minutes since I finished a map! Oh, SOB... though I guess we were lucky... haven't seen a cheater for a few servers, but now I see this guy's Killcam zipping me through no fewer than 3 separate buildings from across the map with a G18.

Ok, try not to break the G19 keyboard. No shooting civilians on the range. No, not even if they smile funny. Stop looking at me like that.

Ok, try again.. no really.. it's ok... try me... I'm feeling lucky. Punk. Ok, new lobby, populating, looks cool, awesome. New map starts, good game, all is wonderful. What... what did he just say? N____r WHAT?! F__k my mom? I'm not putting up with that tonight. Adios.

Ok, try again. Hallelujah and holy sheet! We finally got a clean server that works. Awesome. We just lost the map, but I just managed to play an honest 5 minutes of MW2. Excellent. Where's everyone going now? Why are we merging lobbies? Ah crap, there's the pair of guys from the cheating clan I ran into the other night.

Ok, try again... it bounced me back to the same lobby.

Ok, try again... it bounced me back to the same group that is now in-mission.

Ok, try again... it bounced me back AGAIN to the danged map. I do SO enjoy being forced to wait to load the maps before I can even make the attempt to leave again.

Ok, try again... omg, it bounced me back again. Oh.... oh crap... I just took out the keypad on the G19. Crap!

Ok, try again... when they release a proper patch to clean this mess up. Why? Because screw this. I'm done. Why bother? There's no anti-cheat. There's no ability to choose the gameplay I want to experience. I keep getting rickrolled by the auto-server select and no matter how many unlocks I get or skill I develop, I have no chance of enjoying the game because ||187ci||KillaZ is watching me through walls to get his kills.

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In all honesty, that is PRESICELY the gaming experience I had last night. It is not uncommon. It is often mimicked. My friends and I often find ourselves floating for long periods in hopes of finding fair gameplay.

Having dedicated servers is fun for the unique options it brings. But dear God, until my experiences with MW2 I never realized how much impact there was in having dedicated servers managed by self-policing Admins and clan members. Cheaters were a truly rare commodity to behold. Even the ones using "Humanizing" effects to try to throw off those who watch when they used their Aimbots or Chamz. (It helps to read up on the hack sites to learn what to look for in determining the difference of high skill and hacks... it also helps to be on the phone or vent with others on the server or on their team to snake them out)

Please. From the deepest part of my heart. Please. Pretty please produce a patch which allows the addition of dedicated servers. It can be written so players can still use the existing system if they choose, but NOT so that they auto-fill the dedicated servers. That would best be left as a selectable Option for the dedicated servers, should they wish to be auto-filled.

As I have said, this is an excellent program. Truly bar none in my experience. Exactly the type of maps and weapons era I and many others have dreamed of. It is still worth playing, but please remove the severe limitation to the quality of gameplay. Help us, the players, (aka Consumer, aka Customer) work together with you to provide the best gaming experience possible for what has the potential to be the game of the decade.

I apologize for the rant. It's not something I would normally do, except for the depth of my frustration over the product as-delivered.

Thank you for your time,
"Ramius"
 
Boosting is ruining the game as well, the tactical insertion flare should be removed from the game. Without Tactical Insertion flare, the boosters would take a lot longer to complete a boost and be available in the rest of the map for the more skilled players to make it difficult for them. I have been in games where the nuke was set off just after 1 minute of gameplay!
 
Speaking as a video game producer, Steam and IW are doing a TERRIBLE job of preventing hackers from ruining this game. I am absolutely frustrated in MOST games when I watch killcams and can clearly see the hacks being used. For example, the aim bot which allows a player to shoot every moving target on the screen without even touching the mouse. It just auto-points, shoots, kills, and moves to the next target. By the end of the match, players have in excess of 50 kills and 1 or 2 deaths.

I paid $60 for this game and while its gameplay is excellent, the hackers are ruining it very quickly. It's a shame that such an experienced game-maker didn't implement anti-cheat code into the source code. VAC sucks. At least Punk Buster has a good track record.

I will never buy another game from this game-maker until it gets a handle on this crap and institutes what most other game-makers recognize as EASILY resolved...
 


IW has sold a few million copies of MW2 (PC/360/PS3) combined. That does not include the hacked version... If IW wanted to make more money they NEEDED to implement Dedi servers, there is no other way around it. MW1 does not have 3/4's of the hackers you have in MW2. Nobody to spectate the hackers = Disaster 😉
 
VAC ftw. VAC is a server side anti cheat so hackers can't look at it. With delayed ban system to prevent people from knowing which hacks work or not. It isn't as intrusive and doesn't require you to change your firewall settings.

PB kicks me out of games randomly or for not updating.
Servers don't automatically update either sometimes so you update then wait for server but w/e. PB is a separate program which hackers can look at. You're always dealing with it.
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Because there are no admins... cheaters will cheat and play the game for a day to a week or two before getting banned with VAC. VAC's been known to ban people two months after they've cheated.

MW2 has typically 20-90k players on at a given hour... more than a lot of games. It sold more copies than any other game.

So MW2 isn't a fair assessment. The biggest game on the market is going to have the most hackers/modders/programmers figuring it out. So is VAC to blame for all the cheating? Not really.

I blame IWNet. Dedicated servers had better ping, admins to do banning (don't like admin don't play on the server), and of course MODS AND MAPS!

I assume IWNet will release new maps and charge $20 for the map pack. So from a sales perspective... they make more money not having to deal with cracked servers.
 
ok ...so those of us that dont cheat.....and i still got banned .....many emails have been sent but they wont move!!!!!cant get un banned.....and realy i dont cheat ..i could barely aford the game and those cheats from what i hear cost alot.. they say they have proof but the wont tell me or show me what it is so that tells me that they dont have nothin cuz i dont cheat never have never will
 
Is there a way to send a formal complaint to IW/Activision/Steam. Common we pc gamers spent good money for the game and still no change. Everytime i play there's someone hacking. They should at least enable kick mode. It's so bad at time i revert play COD4 and CS. 🙁
 
The only reason why there are no dedi servers is because the creaters were given a set time and as soon as they finished they were fired, its all 1 big conspiracy :0
 
Hey i just wanna say im one that got banned today

im pissed because i got sick of all the hackers and cheaters so last nigth i chose to download a free hack to get back at other hackers i thought it was fine because everyone else was doing it so why couldnt i get away with it only to find out i was banned this morning and now im pissed because i only tried to get back to those who hacked and now im banned for it and im asking is there a way of getting unbanned?
 
1 in 4 games that i join is hacked, completely out of about 25 games or so, and in the normal games that i play at least 20 per cent of the players are hacking, its ridiculous i am speaking to people who have decided to just leave the game entirely because there is far to much hackings. It's actually a joke now
 
i got the game and hacked to level 70. and realised i might as well make a class and play it. since i only wanted the game for single player. so i decided to play a hardcore match and the amount of cheaters is stupidly obviously i mean what sort of person gets 40 kills for 10 deaths?
 
its impossible to play about 2 or 3 hours without at least seeing a hacker, and ud be lucky to go through about 5 or 6 games to miss even a wall hacker. its quite pathetic and even sadder is, at least im under the impression thereof, that u need to pay for these hacks? i mean... seriously?
 
omfg mw2 = bigest fail/waste of money ever!!!!! bad company 2 owns it, BC:2 has clan support, dedicated servers and most improtantly :the ability to level entire maps with an assault rifle!!!!
 
i got banned for going on a server that sent me prestige instantly, BUT THERE THE ONES WHO PUT ME ON THAT SERVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😡
everyone at steam is a con artist, for instance, while downloading mw2, it kept screwing up and going bk from like 90% downloaded to like 1% downloaded, so i email steam saying,"if this doesnt work, i want my money bk, im not going to pay for something i cant use"
what a surprise, 3months later still no reply.
obviosly it did download in the end, after leaving my computer on for a week solid,(wasnt because of my download speed btw)
 
Thoose hackers make me raise level 70 in 1 second. and they gave me all the titels and emblems... but i wish i could bann them cause i wanna raise level by myself.
 
on ps3, but I have a xbox 360 because of several of reasons, but that is not the point.
I turned my ps3 today because I saw about sony banning hackers and stuff.
they said like real cheater not prestige hack...
I was almost on 5th prestige and me and a friend found out we should make a account with 10 prestige and all weapons and emblem.
we were really bored of at toadly done this for fun and should only see how it was. ( it runned for some days before I had enough of the game again. almost a year later I have buy the xbox have black ops, and some other games. I saw a video on youtube were hackers destroy for other and stuff, and will get banned by sony... I just like... can the whole ps3 get banned or just the account?! (we had several of problem before with the ps3 and xbox 360... ip problem... couldnt join party..games osv...
I turn on the ps3 witch I havent used for a long while.. no my sister used it and I was online too! ,but now I turned it on and couldt get online.. send error code, check your internett , and other bullshit came up.
Can my whole ps3 have gotten banned?! just asking, please answer...
 
they hack wall and you cant see it well if its cheater but all are cheaters in mw2 , i am a cheater i use wallhack , 80% players use wallhack on alteriwnet
 
MrHectorEric 11/30/2009 11:05 PM Hide Insert quote.
" .I don't see how this would affect anyone, except now the cheaters have to make a new steam account. They are probably playing with illegal copies of the game anyways and steam is free to download and install. So 2500 people have been inconvenienced and have to create a new steam account, big deal. They are all probably back online and playing.

Coming from a long time background of CS, VAC is pretty worthless. The game is 6-8 years old (CS and CS:S) and there are still hackers that have to be banned by server admins. What's funny is Bowling's terminology, that he thinks 2500 is a lot and wielding a "ban hammer" is ridiculous. This guy has no clue. It's purely a PR stunt and no one has been affected.
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I know this is an old post but I just want to reply to all the BS comments/posts on here just because I'm Really fuckin bored.
1. MW2 graphics on pc are beast if you have a good computer. So stfu because your computer sucks dick @whoever said mw2 on pc sucks.
2. VAC wasnt completely built for Infinity wards shitty ass game. So Get the fuck over it. Counterstrike Source is being cleaned up as I post this. you know why you find hackers in CSS because your not playing on VALVE VAC SECURE SERVERS! Your all playing on Vac Secured CUSTOM BUILT servers!
3. Never play cod4 or cod5 consoles or pc online matchmaking. Full of hackers on both games. Just gotta say that.
Steam Bans Hackers in mw2. Inluding people who got the game ill-legit. They practically STOLE the game. So all you little squeaking whiners go buy the fucking game and stop complaining on Xbox live,PSN And Pc Saying you got banned for no reason WHEN ACTUALLY YOU WERE BANNED FOR A REASON YOU JUST DONT WANT TO ADMIT THAT YOU WERE 'CHEATING'


Nuff said.
 
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