5770 vs. 5830 vs. 5850

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jeffredo

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Of those two choices the HD 5770 is a much better buy. If you have a crossfire mobo you can always slip in a second later if needed (would be the performance equivalent of between a single GTX470 and HD 5870). The HD 5830 is more expensive than a GTX 460 768MB and about 10% slower.
 

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I would go for the GTX460 1GB unless the $30 difference is a deal breaker. There is more than just a memory difference. the 768MB ver has 24 ROPS and a 192bit memory interface. The 1GB has 32 ROPs and a 256 bit memory interface. I'd choose one of these cards over the 5830 ANY day. the 5830 sucks to much power and is the same size as a 5870. It was just a throw together card if you ask me. Unlike the GTX460 which was made to be a $200 card. Not a $400 dumped down until they could sell it as a $200 card.

What is the rest of your system? Is that $700 just hardware for the PC? does that include case? list your stuff and we can always trim the fat.
 

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If you WERE going to go with the 460 (which I would, since you are spending 700 on a computer anyway and that least a lot of room, hell I just built my friend a bad ass rig off newegg for 600 with a 460 1gb version), I would get the 1GB version of either the EVGA, ASUS DirectCU, or MSI Twin Frozr version of the card (those are best three in my opinion).
 

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Here is my projected build (without a GPU for obvious reasons). In the future, I would like to crossfire. I am using combo deals on newegg to get great deals.

CPU and RAM (Phenom II X4 955 & OCZ AMD Black Edition-4Gb):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.457378

Case and OS (Xclio Windtunnel and Windows 7 Home Premium):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.437504.11-103-011

Motherboard (ASRock 870 Extreme3):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157198

PSU (Sunbeam 780 Watt):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817709024

HDD (Western Digital Blue Caviar 500Gb):
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2795126&Sku=TSD-500AAKS

If you can help me find a better setup, PLEASE DO
 

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do not go for a 5830! are you going to put 2 gpus in your system in the future? if not go for a gtx 460 1gb, if you are go for a 5770
 

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Concerning the HD 5770 vs. the HD 5830 the latter is much larger physically and uses more power than an HD 5850 (although both use about the same or a little less than a GTX 460 1GB). Crossfire scaling also seems to favor the lower level ATI cards, so an HD 5770 might be the better choice with that in mind (I'll see if I can find backup for that thought somewhere). I'm actually kicking around the idea of a X-fire HD 5770 set up vs. getting another Nvidia card, just because my mobo doesn't support SLI. That might be a consideration for the OP as well.
 

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I don't think I should get the high end 5770 when I can get a 5830 for 10 bucks more. I am looking to crossfire, but it's a complicated one. I am going to crossfire, but way in the future, when my card I buy becomes cheap. Is that concise enough?
 

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My monitor is 19 inches and 1600x1200. Its a samsung, with a 5ms response time. Is all of this good enough? I plan on getting a 1080p monitor in the future.
 

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well so far as to your statements, i found this

5770 in crossfire crysis warhead

single 5830 crysis warhead

cossfired 5770's get 43 fps in crysis at 1600 x 1200 while a single 5830 gets 35 fps

though i cant currently find a 5830 crossfire review that has crysis warhead as a benchmark, i believe that it can pass the 5770'2
 

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Okay, so at this point I have decided not to get a 5770, but rather consider the HD 5830 vs. GTX 460. I WILL, repeat WILL Crossfire/SLI in the future. So all things considered....here are the options:

ASUS HD 5830 ($190):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121367&cm_re=5830-_-14-121-367-_-Product

Sparkle GTX 460 768 Mb ($180):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187112

ZOTAC GTX 460 1 Gb ($220):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500169
 

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If you have the same motherboard you picked in the previous post you can NOT SLI on that motherboard without hacked drivers, something I wouldn't mess with.

Also do you mind if someone here takes a stab in the dark at helping you build a 700 dollar rig? You made some odd choices that I wouldn't approve of, that we could get figured out for you, afterwards you can take it over to the homebuilt section and have it refined.

NVM, I see you did ask for help, give me about 15 minutes and I'll be happy to throw something together for you.

EDIT- is the 700 dollars just for the tower and operating system? Or do you need a monitor, mouse, and keyboard as well?

Also going off the last links you sent, if you spent 200 on a graphics card after that, it would 760 dollars after MIR, so is your budget strictly 700 dollars, because even you went over that.
 

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My budget is 700 for the tower and software only. I already have a nice monitor and a nice mouse.

EDIT: Those weren't the specific prices I found. I am traveling right now, and so I have the proper pricing and bookmarks for the deals at my desktop at home. I can get the pc for 710-ish based on the deals I have on my desktop.
 

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Well, what you picked out is ok, OCZ ram is kind of bad now, myself and a friend have had really bad luck with OCZ ram, get this combo instead (its a CPU and Ram combo just like you have), its cheaper, the CPU isn't as good but the one you picked out was a little overboard, and the Ram is much better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470180

Next I highly suggest a different PSU, that Sunbeam one is not reccomended.

 

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