Question 7800x3d vs 7950x3d in the future for gaming.

[Barrdock]

Which one is more futureproof for gaming?I know that future proofing is many times stupid.but in 2017 built a pc using i7 7700k over the 6 core 6800k a 6 core Ryzen 5 1600x or even an 8 core Ryzen 7 1700,1800x because everyone was saying that 4 cores will be enough for years.Some months later i realized that i made a huge mistake.Now it's time for a new built and i don't want to make the same mistake.I know that at this time 7800x3d seems like a very good choice for gaming but what will happen in the future?What are your suggestions?I'am willing to spend the extra money but does it worth it?

P.S:Usually i have open some Google sheets,Youtube,Spotify while playing.Its not multi tasking but yeah...

 

[Hellfire13]

In my opinion, in general 8 threads worked for almost a decade for most games, more or less.
And judging by that trend, 16 threads still have some time to saturate fully.
24 thread would be most probably more than sufficient for the lifetime of the build, I think,unless you are playing some very cpu intensive games. So 7900x3d would be a better option rather than 7950x3d, as the extra thermals also needs to be factored in.

 

[Barrdock]

In my opinion, in general 8 threads worked for almost a decade for most games, more or less.
And judging by that trend, 16 threads still have some time to saturate fully.
24 thread would be most probably more than sufficient for the lifetime of the build, I think,unless you are playing some very cpu intensive games. So 7900x3d would be a better option rather than 7950x3d, as the extra thermals also needs to be factored in.

Even with a watercooler and big case?

 

[triplex1]

wait and build with 9950x

 

[Hellfire13]

Even with a watercooler and big case?

You can go for it, but here are some benchmarks for reference...
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...eview/#CPU_Power_Consumption_and_Temperatures

AMD Ryzen 7800X3D vs. 7900X3D vs. 7950X3D

With recent price changes, the Ryzen 7800X3D can now be had for as little as $370, the 7900X3D is just $20 more, and the 7950X3D is down...

www.techspot.com

Note in the benchmark, Cyberpunk is one of the most demanding games currently available but not much resource used beyond 16 threads. 32 threads would be a lot of wasted resource.

 

[Zerk2012]

Which one is more futureproof for gaming?I know that future proofing is many times stupid.but in 2017 built a pc using i7 7700k over the 6 core 6800k a 6 core Ryzen 5 1600x or even an 8 core Ryzen 7 1700,1800x because everyone was saying that 4 cores will be enough for years.Some months later i realized that i made a huge mistake.Now it's time for a new built and i don't want to make the same mistake.I know that at this time 7800x3d seems like a very good choice for gaming but what will happen in the future?What are your suggestions?I'am willing to spend the extra money but does it worth it?

P.S:Usually i have open some Google sheets,Youtube,Spotify while playing.Its not multi tasking but yeah...

Nobody can see the future needs of gaming but I would think a 7800X3D would last a long time no need for a ton of cores still. Usually it's the video card that needs upgrading.

I still haven't seen anything my 10600K can't handle so still no upgrading for me.

 

[bill001g]

You have to be very careful when you are talking about x3d when it comes to cores and threads. You have the nasty issue on some of the x3d models that they have 2 chiplets and only 1 of them has the 3d cache. You now get the messy issue of how do you make sure the programs that can use the x3d cache run there and the ones that want higher clock rates run on the other.

There really is no good solution for this. They have some options but it many times kinda just disables 1/2 the cpu for some applications.

 

[Barrdock]

wait and build with 9950x

You have to be very careful when you are talking about x3d when it comes to cores and threads. You have the nasty issue on some of the x3d models that they have 2 chiplets and only 1 of them has the 3d cache. You now get the messy issue of how do you make sure the programs that can use the x3d cache run there and the ones that want higher clock rates run on the other.

There really is no good solution for this. They have some options but it many times kinda just disables 1/2 the cpu for some applications.

They are working on it or they are focusing to the 9000 generation x3d?Is 9950x or 9900x worth especially with a 870E mobo?Should i wait the new gen x3d or Intel's next gen?

 

[triplex1]

at the moment I haven't seen x3d in series 9*** that's why I say wait, for sure it will be released and it will be superior as the next generation will be released later

 

[Barrdock]

You can go for it, but here are some benchmarks for reference...
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...eview/#CPU_Power_Consumption_and_Temperatures

AMD Ryzen 7800X3D vs. 7900X3D vs. 7950X3D

With recent price changes, the Ryzen 7800X3D can now be had for as little as $370, the 7900X3D is just $20 more, and the 7950X3D is down...

www.techspot.com

Note in the benchmark, Cyberpunk is one of the most demanding games currently available but not much resource used beyond 16 threads. 32 threads would be a lot of wasted resource.

I can spend 150 euros more for the cpu but not more than 70-100 euros for cooling.I mean can a relatively good air cooler or mid range water cooler do the job?

 

[triplex1]

from where are you?

 

[bill001g]

Unless intel starts doing on chip memory the x3d chips will likely beat even new intel chips in gaming. It seems games have a very different cpu need than other types of computer use.

The best rumors are the 9 series x3d chips will be announced at ces in january 2025. So if you can wait almost 6 months they should be out.

It all depends on what exact game you are running, what resolution you run and how good your video card is. Most games are still limited by the gpu first.

 

[Barrdock]

from where are you?

Greece

 

[triplex1]

Greece

Παρηγγειλε αυτην η την evo 120 την οποια την εχω παρει

 

[Barrdock]

Unless intel starts doing on chip memory the x3d chips will likely beat even new intel chips in gaming. It seems games have a very different cpu need than other types of computer use.

The best rumors are the 9 series x3d chips will be announced at ces in january 2025. So if you can wait almost 6 months they should be out.

It all depends on what exact game you are running, what resolution you run and how good your video card is. Most games are still limited by the gpu first.

I play Cities skylines II and this style of games mostly and some racers like Forza motorsports 7,8 and Crew Motorfest

 

[Barrdock]

Παρηγγειλε αυτην η την evo 120 την οποια την εχω παρει

Οκ,ευχαριστω!

 

[triplex1]

Οκ,ευχαριστω!

η 1η που εβαλα ειναι πιο κοντα στην FC140 αν αλλαξεις στην πορεια τους ανεμιστηρες και πολυ φθηνοτερη , σε καλυπτει απο TDP