Adding up memory pc won't boot up

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guys i have a problem!

i have ASUS PX58D Premium motherboard with i7 930 so i had before 3X2gb corsair mem
so i wanted to add exact same memory 3x2gb so i have 12GB all together memry like i said is exact the same. i didn't mix anything
so i removed new one and still won't start, cleared cmos by removing battery but still nothing

anybody???

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Don't use XMP and set the RAM manually.

Q - What EXACT Set(s) do you have? Provide link(s).

Try booting with (1) stick at a time; yep a PITA but if you have a bad stick it's the easiest way to find booting X6 times.
 

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i did with one stick at a time same crap ***
btw i also added new sound card even removing that didn't help
 

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XMP ; Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) Intel's version of 'SPD' ; encoded data on the RAM's IC's for setting Frequency, CAS Timings, and DRAM Voltage.

Note: There are (2) different Dominator sets with CAS 8; TR3X6G1600C8D and CMP6GX3M3A1600C8 and they don't mix well...

DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24-2N @ 1.65v

DIMM Slots
CPU: | New | Old | New | Old | New | Old |

BIOS:
Ai Overclock Tuner -> Auto
DRAM Frequency -> DDR3-1600MHz
DRAM Timing Control -> /Manual
DRAM CAS# Latency -> 9 ; 8 after stable
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay -> 9 ; 8 after stable
DRAM RAS# PRE Time -> 9 ; 8 after stable
DRAM RAS# ACT Time -> 24
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DRAM Timing Mode -> 2N
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QPI/DRAM Core Voltage -> 1.25v
DRAM Bus Voltage -> 1.64v

Save & Exit

First use DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24-2N @ 1.65v (Stable) then DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24-2N @ 1.65v.
 

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Then IF ALL sticks = FAIL you have a bigger problem. Perhaps in pushing-in the DIMM slots something moved and became shorted.

You can try Lazyman's Breadboard -
* Disconnect ALL Front Panel & USB Headers ; keep only the PWR & Ground <best> short w/wire.
* Disconnect ALL peripherals including the Keyboard/Mouse
* (1) Stick of RAM in the second DIMM slot from CPU
* Unscrew both the MOBO and PCIe screws

Pull the MOBO away from anything conductive and supported by a towel ; short PWR & Ground to start.
 

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BTW - if using (1) stick then only use the SECOND DIMM slot:

CPU: | blank | RAM | blank | blank | blank | blank |
 

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well the problem is that everything starts up i mean all the vents and lights are on but nothing going on on screen and i know it stops somewhere
 

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[strike]Can you boot into the BIOS?[/strike] ; noted the nothing on screen...

You're stuck on breadbaording as I listed above.
 

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Trust me if the breadboard works you'll be happy :)

The method I posted takes 5~10 minutes, but it's necessary.
 

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did it and same stuff..
my other thought is it might be PSU... not sure yet just a thought
 

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Unfortunately, the only way to rule-out MOBO from CPU from PSU problems is the start replacing stuff. Most/many PSU's carry a 5-year warranty. None of you components should be > 2 years old. :(
 

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Antec is crap -- I've had a couple ruin my GPU's when they took their dive, and ever since I'm very picky about PSU's.

Q - Besides an X58 and i7-930 -- what other components are running-off your PC? e.g. GPUs, number of HDD's, PCI/PCIe cards, etc.
Q - Is your PC on 7/24/365 or does it get turned-off or sleep. e.g. Bronze, Silver or Gold rated PSU.
 

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P of *** PSU
5850 xfx card
creative pci titanium hd
3 640gb hard drives SATA i know i should of have ssd but it is what it is
no dvd drive yet but came today
now 12gb of ram at 1.6 volts
my pc is 7/24/365
 

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In your case I'd either go with a Gold or Platinum Certified.

My picks:
1. 159.99 CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX750 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139016
2. 169.99 SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

If you're in an area where your KW/Hr is > $0.12 then it'll pay you spend the extra money for the saving in electricity. Idle you'll probably pulling 225W~250W; the PSU's are sized for OC'ing both the CPU and GPU so they're over-sized, but the on always reduces the the capacity via 'electrolytic capacitor aging' so it's best to over size 30%~40%.

The PSU's I posted will last you until the system otherwise 'dies' or is EOL 5+ years.
 

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ok my psu is ok..
went to store picked up corsair 700 just to test it if my psu was ff'ed up,
so nope.. everything the same..

 

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So to recap - all you did was to add more RAM and in the process you had/have a boot failure aka nothing on the screen. Next, you tried a new PSU and now ditto.

IF the PSU indeed failed, like it did a couple of times with me in the past -- the PSU 'might have' pooched the system. BUT you had NO symptoms of PSU troubles aka oddball boot/shutdowns.

Which leaves me to the conclusions: A. Shorting from movement aka DIMM pressure, or B. Micro-Cracking of the MOBO.

I assume everything is properly seated i.e. GPU.

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1. Reseat everything.
1. Try a different PCIe slot for the GPU.
2. Full Breadboarding ; removing the MOBO from the case entirely with minimal connections.
 

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i did completely everything.. removed mobo and connected only video card [as my mobo has no on board video] with one at a time ram so i am assuming it is mobo failure..
i will have to buy new PSU cause one i have is old..
and new mobo..
damn it ;]]
 

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The MOBO should be under warranty i.e. free, the ASUS P6X58D Premium carries a 3 year warranty -- and it's a good MOBO...

As far as the PSU IMO 7/24/365 get one I posted above; I understand why you ran out an purchased one -- I would have done the same.
 
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