All Apple Products Forbidden in Bill Gates' Family

[tu_illegalamigo]

[citation][nom]agnickolov[/nom]You are wrong in thinking Mac OS X has Linux under the hood. There's nothing in common between FreeBSD (which is the kernel of Mac OS X) and Linux apart from both of them being open source Unix clones.[/citation]

Not completely true, there is a difference between Mach (a BSD micro kernel developed by students from Carnegie Mellon) and the BSD kernel used by Free BSD which is Monolithic. The only Free BSD kernel I can think of that even incorporates any micro kernel features is dragonfly, and it`s forking off of FBSD because of lack of support for those features.

 

[Houndsteeth]

Apple uses windows based servers only. Apple can't depend on their own products when it comes to the enterprise server arena.

Uninformed much, are we? Apple's web servers are all running on DARWIN...which is the open source BSD Unix microkernel that is the heart of...you guessed it...OS X. Are there Windows servers at Apple? Undoubtedly, as there has to be research environments since Macintosh computers are designed to interact with Windows servers. Does Apple use windows servers for day-to-day mission-critical operations? Why would they have to when they have access to Darwin or just about any other Posix distro out there? Windows doesn't have an exclusive market on enterprise level servers. Even OS X has an enterprise-level package, and most Posix systems are able to blow Windows out of the water for both more powerful Enterprise implementations, as well as more stable and easier for an experienced IT team to manage.

Here is another clue...guess what OS the web server for Tom's is running on? If you say Windows, you DON'T get the no-prize...cause Tom's is hosted on a Posix server running Apache, just like 70% of the web sites out there. In fact, only a handful of the Fortune 500 companies are running IIS for their internet servers (Microsoft, for instance, DOES eat their own dogfood). Google...you may have heard of the company somewhere...runs Apache on Posix servers.

Windows isn't the end-all, be-all of the computer world. Sure, they just about own the desktop, but once you get into the server rooms of most fortune 500 companies, you are in a Posix environment for the most part, with a handful of Windows servers here and there.

 

[Houndsteeth]

So the Lisa was the first commercially computer available with a GUI. What was the Alto and the Star? Prototypes? The market had already been created. Also the Amiga was perhaps the computer of that generation that broke more ground.

The Alto was not commercially available, and the Star was killed by Xerox fairly quickly since it was not commercially viable at the prices that Xerox was charging ($16,000 per station, or $80,000 to $100,000 per location installation). PARC was the Manhattan Project of the personal computer industry. Research that happened there in the late 70s and early 80s is still influencing the PC market today.

While the Amiga was a very good step in the right direction, and in many ways, a step ahead of its time, Commodore made some very bad business decisions early on that came to haunt them later down the road. Hence, while the Amiga was commercially viable and did sell quite well, it was not widely accepted into the business environment and only seemed to flourish in niche markets like video production and game development. It has been eclipsed by both Apple and Microsoft in terms of development, and while the OS still exists in one form or another, the adoption rate outside of the boutique is almost nill. I think you could probably compare it to one of the minor Linux distros for the number of machines that run on the Amiga OS.

I still say, forget brand loyalty and buy the best tool for the job. If you are an Apple fanboi or a Microsoft fanboi, you will quickly be eclipsed by someone who could care less about the source and more about the results. In my own environment, I have Windows desktops (for .NET development and Pro Tools) running right beside Mac workstations (for Xcode development and running FCP and Logic Pro), with both Linux and Windows servers running in the back office. Hell, I even have an Xserve G4 in there plucking away running BIND and PostgreSQL for some testing.

 

[pale paladin]

that is my golden rule in my house. My wife received a ipod touch for a Christmas bonus @ work. you know where it's at? Sold on craiglist. I still utilize a PS3 and a Wii but no Apple products in my house ever. My 5yr old 30gb Zune still kicks ass. battery lasts for about 4hrs watching movies and about 8-10hrs listening to music. I once went down the path of Ipod and will never travel that dark path again. Itunes is the Devil

 

[xythrax4420]

Bill Gates doesn't want to waste his money on garbage apple products even though he has money to wipe his ass with he would rather give his money away then buy apple products with it.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]Houndsteeth[/nom]The Alto was not commercially available, and the Star was killed by Xerox fairly quickly since it was not commercially viable at the prices that Xerox was charging ($16,000 per station, or $80,000 to $100,000 per location installation). PARC was the Manhattan Project of the personal computer industry. Research that happened there in the late 70s and early 80s is still influencing the PC market today.[/citation]
I doesn't matter if the Xerox Star was a financial success or not. They started the market in 81 Apple followed in 84, Microsoft, Atari and Commodore in 85.
[citation][nom]Houndsteeth[/nom]While the Amiga was a very good step in the right direction, and in many ways, a step ahead of its time, Commodore made some very bad business decisions early on that came to haunt them later down the road. Hence, while the Amiga was commercially viable and did sell quite well, it was not widely accepted into the business environment and only seemed to flourish in niche markets like video production and game development. It has been eclipsed by both Apple and Microsoft in terms of development, and while the OS still exists in one form or another, the adoption rate outside of the boutique is almost nill. I think you could probably compare it to one of the minor Linux distros for the number of machines that run on the Amiga OS.[/citation]
Commodore did commit terrible mistakes that cost them dearly. Still no one can deny that the Amiga was way ahead of it's time. Even though the Atari ST was the first computer with color and preceded the Amiga by two months. The Atari it could only show 16 colors at a time from a pallet of 512 colors. The Amiga could present 4096 colors. I'm not even going to mention the sound that it was light years ahead of anyone. They were truly revolutionary.
[citation][nom]Houndsteeth[/nom]I still say, forget brand loyalty and buy the best tool for the job. If you are an Apple fanboi or a Microsoft fanboi, you will quickly be eclipsed by someone who could care less about the source and more about the results. In my own environment, I have Windows desktops (for .NET development and Pro Tools) running right beside Mac workstations (for Xcode development and running FCP and Logic Pro), with both Linux and Windows servers running in the back office. Hell, I even have an Xserve G4 in there plucking away running BIND and PostgreSQL for some testing.[/citation]
I'm not a fanboy of any brand. I even own a Mac. I also have Windows, Ubuntu and FreeBSD. I just dislike when blinded fanboy, be it from Apple or Microsoft, start spewing blinded lies.

 

[Guest]

A window of opportunity doesn't create a smart mind, a smart mind creates it's possibility's itself.

 

[ghnader hsmithot]

This is a very old fact..