Althon 64 FX-57

Rugger · Oct 31, 2005

That's what I figured - no problemo. You KNOW I'm not going to leave the PSU out!

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Rugger · Oct 31, 2005

Best way to trim down those costs some:
1. Get a single core 3700+ or an X2 3800+. The 3700+ saves $557 and the X2 3800+ saves $462
2. Go with the SF201T that I linked - Great case at a great Price. Saves $135
3. Use onboard sound - unless you're an audiophile, you won't know the difference. Modern onboard sound is really good. $176 saved. Or go with the Audigy2 ZS GAMER Limited Edition and save $50.

There is PLENTY of room to cut prices some without sacrificing a lot of performance. We're big on price/perf here at THGC. If you want to laydown $3k on a system we can send you that direction, but we can also put together a great gaming system for around $1K.

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Gimpy · Oct 31, 2005

Well let me throw this at you. Whats faster AMD 2.4 or an Intel 2.4? I look at all these cpu's and say is 2.4 fast enough?

Do this for me please if you don't mind! Say I gave you $2000.00 to build me a PC. Everything but mouse and keybroad. I would like to see what you come up with. I think I'm going in the right direction but, won't to make sure that I am.

Thanks

Just like to have fun..

RichPLS · Oct 31, 2005

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Rugger · Oct 31, 2005

I'll work that as soon as I get a chance...have to do some "real" work right now.

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shaido7 · Oct 31, 2005

if you are overclocking then get the 4000+ or to save a lttile money if you dont need the top cpu get the 4000+ the performance is almost the same.If you want the best cpu go for the fx-57.I wouldnt recomend 2 gigs of ram only 1 gig of matched memory corsair,ocz are prolly the top two there are many others that make good memory but with these two you cant go wrong now remember you need memory with the fastest timmings for your amd intel uses the highbandwith amd uses speed check the benchies here at toms on memory for socket 939 which is the type of mobo you need for your amd for your video card i would reccomend the x850 xt from ati or the 7800gtx from nvidia or you could go with 2 video cards very expensive though. ati has an x1800xt but im not sure if it is available yet if so i would get that for a few reasons first ati in my opinion has better graphics options for a better picture like 16x and 6 or 8x aa and af filtering ive had a few nvidia cards and ati cards both are almost identical buti think ati has a slight edge in picture quality.also nvidia is the big bad wolf many dirty tricks and tactics and they are the big dog which means we as consumers wanna do our part to help the competition so that we get better products and lower prices not to mention ati has kicked the big dogs butt the last few years in the graphics market. as far as dual cpus ive read a few articles and basically what i found out is software is not written for 2 cpus so having dual cpu is pretty much useless for most people now that being said if you do anything that requires major processing the the dual processors will help you like having open tons of programs at the same time or professional work then dual cpus can help. but keep in mind the fastest dual processor right now is slower at games than the single core fx57 i would wait to get a dual core system i just cant justify buying 2 videocards and not getting double performance or 2 cpus and not getting twice the processing power they have a lot of work to do in my opinon if they want to charge us for two of everything in a computer to increase speeds than they better make it so i get the full performance d@mnit!.you shuldnt worry about buying something now that will be upgradeable later cause it more than likely wont be upgradeable or you wouldnt want to upgrade your current stuff but buy a whole new technology anyways dont buy into this future stuff cause in the future yuo wont be able to use that stuff anyway its all a sales deception and never buy something on preorder you could be waiting for months to a year or longer if it aint ready hold on to your money its incentive for them and youre not out money when youre hands are emptyplus they are getting bad with all these paper releases.you can use any xp type o.s. with any new cpu pretty much and you could buy a thermaltake case which comes with fan control and 7 fans,alarm etc. for power i reccomend turbo cool,antec true power,ocz,and theres a few others get like a 550 or something just make sure its a cheap power supplt thats important all the new hardware is power hungry and make sure the p.s. istruly what it gives many power supplies burn up and dont perform as advertised so make a good choice there.I would also tell you that you most definately should get a raptor1000 rpm harddrive it wil make a hugh difference because it finds data in 4.5 ms vs10 or higher with other drives its smoking fast whoever told you that was very wrong.the 74gig is faster than the smaller version when you are in a game and your cpu needs info that isnt in your ram it has to search your harddrive so you need speed every fraction of a second counts! since you are buying a new soundcard the new creative x-fi is a must buy buy your parts from newegg.com or zipzoomfly.com they are the best sites on the web.also flat screens are absolutely not good for gamming even the new gamming ones theres still lag crts are best for gamming just so you know

athlon 64/msik8n neo2 plat/corsair twinx1024-3200/
thermalright120mm heatsink,fan/wd 74gig raptor and 250gig/audigy2/logitechz-5500,mx1000laserwkeyboard
22inch mitsubishi mon

Rugger · Oct 31, 2005

Ever heard of punctuation?

There's some good info in this, but there's bad info too. Hint: When trying to help someone you should clearly, succinctly communicate your message.

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Zoron · Oct 31, 2005

Hard Drive
Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive

You'll be happier with a larger, 16MB cache drive. They pretty much negate the performance edge the Raptors once had and you won't have to worry about running out of space.

 If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it.

HardWareBoss · Oct 31, 2005

The 64 x2 4800+ is a waste of money with the 7800GTX.

HardWareBoss · Oct 31, 2005

NewEgg had a good deal on price of the VX924 last week.

Rugger · Oct 31, 2005

All prices will include shipping and any applicable rebates.
1. <A HREF="http://www.directron.com/directron/201tblk.html" target="_new">Super-Flower SF-201T</A> for $72
2. <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151025" target="_new">Seasonic S12 600W</A> for $150.99
3. <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127207" target="_new">Abit AN8 SLI</A> for $138.50
4. <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103529" target="_new">A64 4000+</A> for $334
5. RAM: <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146970" target="_new">OCZ Performance series</A> 2x1GB for $225.26
6. GPU: <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130248" target="_new">eVGA 7800GTX</A> for $464.99.
7. Soundcard: <A HREF="http://www.directron.com/70sb046000007.html" target="_new">Audigy X-FI</A> for $122.50
8. HDD: <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144186" target="_new">Maxtor Maxline III</A> for $126.48
9. Monitor: Keep your current monitor. If you find that the games don't look good enough, then sell it and get the VP930b ($419.99) or the VX924 ($364.49).
10. OS: Windows XP Pro for $134.95. If you already have XP home, then save this money.
Total: $1769.67

That is $230.33 under budget. If you want to get the monitor and stay under budget you can tweak this some by:
1. Going down to a 3700+ for $100 savings
2. Not buying XP Pro for $135 savings
3. Using onboard sound for $126 savings.
Any one of those three will get you close to $2000 with the VX924 added.

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HardWareBoss · Oct 31, 2005

Has he looked at the Dell 24'' widescreen?

Rugger · Oct 31, 2005

I haven't seen it mentioned - got a clicky?

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HardWareBoss · Oct 31, 2005

To lazy. Dell.com

Rugger · Oct 31, 2005

LOL - That's just wrong!

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Zoron · Nov 1, 2005

I'm well aware that higher platter density increases performance... but the cache does help too...

:tongue:

Personally, I'd love Hitachi's new 500GB drive... very high density plus the aforementioned 16MB cache.

 If you design software that is fool-proof, only a fool will want to use it.

HardWareBoss · Nov 1, 2005

OK Google

shawnlizzle =] · Nov 1, 2005

case: looks good

cpu: DON'T GET DUAL CORE!! if your gaming, your money is better spent on a fx-57 w/ higher clock speeds. i'm pretty sure you won't be encoding a dvd movie while you are pwning nubs

mobo: looks good.. since ur not OCing

RAM: looks good

HD: you might want to add 1 or 2 250gb storage drives

gfx card: looks good

sound: you might want to look into creative's x-fi xtreme music. its only 20-30 dollars more expensive than the audigy2 and it gives you much better overall sound quality

powersupply: i'm a big fan of seasonic... i should hug you for this

@ the asus lover

ROFLMAO

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Gimpy · Nov 1, 2005

So, no one answered my question. Whats faster AMD 2.4 or the Intel 2.4?

So on the ram part I do I figure what what ram is running at? I would say in the BIOS? Also do you have to run a buch of test to make sure your ram can do that speed?

The video card that you menitioned the evga 7800gtx. Is that over clocked?

Just like to have fun..

Rugger · Nov 1, 2005

With his $2k budget, the 2405 is a little bit much at $1K.

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Rugger · Nov 1, 2005

IIRC, the nVidia spec calls for a core clock speed of 430. The eVGA is at 450, so you could say that it is OCd.

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mozzartusm · Nov 1, 2005

Dont make the mistake of thinking that speed of the CPU in MHZs is the same for both AMD and INTEL. AMD is faster even though the Mhzs are lower.

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Gimpy · Nov 1, 2005

Thanks guys! I think I got my big check today!!! So I will be ordering my stuff real soon. I will post my final specs to see what yall think.

On the mobo. Will it last me a while and also will I be able to upgrade my CPU in the future with no problem?

Just like to have fun..

Gimpy · Nov 1, 2005

Here it is guys! This is what I think I'm going to get. Going to order it tonight!!!!!

Case
Super-Flower Computer Case - Black SF-201T Aluminum Mid-tower Cases, w/ Top LED Fan & 3 Windows

PSU
SeaSonic S12-600 600W Power Supply

CPU
AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor

Mobo
ABIT AN8 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard

Ram
OCZ Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory

Video
eVGA Geforce 7800GTX 256-P2-N525-AX Video Card

Sound
SounCreative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum

HD
Maxtor MaXLine III 300GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive

Well there it is! I hope I picked it out right. A noob when it comes to buying the right stuff for the application. As you can see I picked alot of what people told me to. I thought yall would know. Hope I not getting screwed.. Thanks and let me know what yall think!!

P.S Do I need to buying anything else to put this monster together? Also should I buy some heatsinks for my RAM? (I was just looking at the ram and it seems to me it already got it!!!)PLEASE POST STICKY IF SO!!!

Thanks Gimpy

Just like to have fun..Edited by Gimpy on 11/01/05 04:29 PM.

Rugger · Nov 1, 2005

Awesome rig! I see you decided to splurge for the Audigy 2 ZS Plat instead of the X-Fi. Heatsinks are only for bling-bling - no performance gain from them. They may actually cause the module to heat up more due to reduced airflow directly on the chips.

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