Amd fx 8350 reach 71c with cooler master t4 quad in games

[pain_86]

Hello i am worried , cause my cpu reaches hot degrees under load... I read some threads and i know that safe temp is 62 c... it is summer here and temperatures are hot , anyway my room is not that warm, shouldn't be that high with aftermarket cooler...I have 2 front intake and 1 exhaust back fan. Any advice ...?

 

[xXCrossfireXx]

My advice is to get another cooler. All those 8 core AMDs are heat monsters, I suggest getting a high end air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15 or D14

 

[pain_86]

My advice is to get another cooler. All those 8 core AMDs are heat monsters, I suggest getting a high end air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15 or D14

They both won't fit in my case (cooler limit 155mm ) plus don't have this budget right now....Probably will look for some more powerfull, but not so expensive... Thanks for responding

 

[xXCrossfireXx]

My advice is to get another cooler. All those 8 core AMDs are heat monsters, I suggest getting a high end air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15 or D14

They both won't fit in my case (cooler limit 155mm ) plus don't have this budget right now....Probably will look for some more powerfull, but not so expensive... Thanks for responding

Your best bet then is to save up for a high end water cooler, something above an H100i

 

[GhislainG]

Hello i am worried , cause my cpu reaches hot degrees under load... I read some threads and i know that safe temp is 62 c... it is summer here and temperatures are hot , anyway my room is not that warm, shouldn't be that high with aftermarket cooler...I have 2 front intake and 1 exhaust back fan. Any advice ...?

Use AMD Overdrive and check the more accurate thermal margins at full load; if they are 10°C or higher, then you have nothing to worry about.

 

[JBD123]

That cooler should be more than adequate if you aren't overclocking. What case are you using? What are the ambient temps in the room? What thermal paste are you using, and have you tried reapplying it?

 

[pain_86]

That cooler should be more than adequate if you aren't overclocking. What case are you using? What are the ambient temps in the room? What thermal paste are you using, and have you tried reapplying it?

My case is Thermaltake versa h23 , i have 2 front intake fans and one exhaust in the back , there a big vent in the top where the warm air gets out ,but no option for more fans. My room temp its getting warmer since the heat begun , can't tell you exactly right now , but when i got my pc first the room temp was no more than 20 and after playing near a hour cpu reached 70 c , on idle is great temp -13-18c ...My configuration is brand new , haven't applied paste again they put it togheter in the store from when i buy the parts.

 

[JBD123]

That cooler should be more than adequate if you aren't overclocking. What case are you using? What are the ambient temps in the room? What thermal paste are you using, and have you tried reapplying it?

My case is Thermaltake versa h23 , i have 2 front intake fans and one exhaust in the back , there a big vent in the top where the warm air gets out ,but no option for more fans. My room temp its getting warmer since the heat begun , can't tell you exactly right now , but when i got my pc first the room temp was no more than 20 and after playing near a hour cpu reached 70 c , on idle is great temp -13-18c ...My configuration is brand new , haven't applied paste again they put it togheter in the store from when i buy the parts.

I think the most likely cause would be a bad thermal paste application, or perhaps they forgot to remove the plastic from the heatsink. They definitely didn't overclock it at all? What is the voltage?

 

[uguv]

My case is Thermaltake versa h23 , i have 2 front intake fans and one exhaust in the back , there a big vent in the top where the warm air gets out ,but no option for more fans. My room temp its getting warmer since the heat begun , can't tell you exactly right now , but when i got my pc first the room temp was no more than 20 and after playing near a hour cpu reached 70 c , on idle is great temp -13-18c ...My configuration is brand new , haven't applied paste again they put it togheter in the store from when i buy the parts.

There's no way your computer is idling at 13-18c unless your room is bitter cold. As GhislainG said, use AMD Overdrive to check your thermal margins.

 

[GhislainG]

That cooler should be more than adequate if you aren't overclocking. What case are you using? What are the ambient temps in the room? What thermal paste are you using, and have you tried reapplying it?

My case is Thermaltake versa h23 , i have 2 front intake fans and one exhaust in the back , there a big vent in the top where the warm air gets out ,but no option for more fans. My room temp its getting warmer since the heat begun , can't tell you exactly right now , but when i got my pc first the room temp was no more than 20 and after playing near a hour cpu reached 70 c , on idle is great temp -13-18c ...My configuration is brand new , haven't applied paste again they put it togheter in the store from when i buy the parts.

I think the most likely cause would be a bad thermal paste application, or perhaps they forgot to remove the plastic from the heatsink. They definitely didn't overclock it at all? What is the voltage?

We won't know if the OP's CPU is cool enough or not until he tells us what the thermal margins at idle (not that important) and at full load (very important) are.

 

[pain_86]

Ok thanks everyone , i will check the margins and will tell you the results Have to wait for a friend for little help , or see some tutorial , cuz i am not familiar with Amd overdrive .I bet is that easy , but i never done that.

 

[pain_86]

That cooler should be more than adequate if you aren't overclocking. What case are you using? What are the ambient temps in the room? What thermal paste are you using, and have you tried reapplying it?

My case is Thermaltake versa h23 , i have 2 front intake fans and one exhaust in the back , there a big vent in the top where the warm air gets out ,but no option for more fans. My room temp its getting warmer since the heat begun , can't tell you exactly right now , but when i got my pc first the room temp was no more than 20 and after playing near a hour cpu reached 70 c , on idle is great temp -13-18c ...My configuration is brand new , haven't applied paste again they put it togheter in the store from when i buy the parts.

I think the most likely cause would be a bad thermal paste application, or perhaps they forgot to remove the plastic from the heatsink. They definitely didn't overclock it at all? What is the voltage?

We won't know if the OP's CPU is cool enough or not until he tells us what the thermal margins at idle (not that important) and at full load (very important) are.

So... i have tested the cpu with Amd overdrive in idle and with the games which cause it to 70c :
Room temp - 25c (kinda warm)
Idle thermal margines - 54-57c
On game (30 minutes playing) - 11.2 -12.4c (it dropped to 9c only once ...keeps almost constant 11c while i watched it for around 4-5 minutes)
Cpu usage -20 %

 

[GhislainG]

Ideally the thermal margins are 10°C or higher, but a dip to 9°C won't cause throttling. As you can see, AOD is much more accurate.

It would be interesting to check the thermal margins while running Prime95 Small FFTs.

 

[pain_86]

Ideally the thermal margins are 10°C or higher, but a dip to 9°C won't cause throttling. As you can see, AOD is much more accurate.

It would be interesting to check the thermal margins while running Prime95 Small FFTs.

Yes the program is very useful and accurate definetely I will check with Prime 95 to be more sure everything is ok ...But isn't that 65 c in load at 20 cpu % usage kinda high ? I don't know what will happen if i am on load with something more cpu demanding and for more hours in play...

 

[uguv]

Prime95 Small FFTs will put the CPU under load and you can see how the margins look then.

 

[GhislainG]

Ideally the thermal margins are 10°C or higher, but a dip to 9°C won't cause throttling. As you can see, AOD is much more accurate.

It would be interesting to check the thermal margins while running Prime95 Small FFTs.

Yes the program is very useful and accurate definetely I will check with Prime 95 to be more sure everything is ok ...But isn't that 65 c in load at 20 cpu % usage kinda high ? I don't know what will happen if i am on load with something more cpu demanding and for more hours in play...

Where do you see 65°C at 20% load in AMD Overdrive? AOD provides thermal margins; the higher they are, the cooler the CPU is; at close to 0°C the CPU throttles (its frequency drops to 1.4 GHz).

 

[pain_86]

@GhislainG I also checked what is the cpu usage in task manager and the temp in hwmonitor to see what usage the cpu has for that load stats.

 

[GhislainG]

We don't care about what hwmonitor displays; what are the thermal margins while running Prime95 Small FFTs? The CPU utilization will definitely be 100%.

 

[pain_86]

I didn't test it yet , waiting for a friend which uses it , i am afraid i may do something wrong since i haven't operate with it.Will post results as soon as i can.

 

[GhislainG]

You install it and select CPU status to monitor it. Don't use it to overclock your system.

 

[pain_86]

You install it and select CPU status to monitor it. Don't use it to overclock your system.

Hi again. I've just ran prime95 test and the results are not good ...It shows -1c -2.c within minutes and i quit the test ...

 

[GhislainG]

Now you know why your cooler isn't good enough for that hot CPU; if available, a Cryorg H7 will fit and cool the CPU much better. In the meantime you could try lowering the core voltage and or down-clocking the CPU a bit and it should no longer throttle.

Check how hot an Intel CPU drawing 130W and 160W gets: http://us.hardware.info/reviews/3960/4/33-cpu-cooler-group-test-cool-quiet-and-both-participants

 

[pain_86]

Now you know why your cooler isn't good enough for that hot CPU; if available, a Cryorg H7 will fit and cool the CPU much better. In the meantime you could try lowering the core voltage and or down-clocking the CPU a bit and it should no longer throttle.

Check how hot an Intel CPU drawing 130W and 160W gets: http://us.hardware.info/reviews/3960/4/33-cpu-cooler-group-test-cool-quiet-and-both-participants

Thank you very much for the help ! Have one more question ... is it possible the cpu is overheating because i don't have top fans in the case to exhaust the hot air , just want to be sure , cause i have added the maximum of fans the case supports...?

 

[GhislainG]

If there is enough space, adding fans on top will help a bit, but I can't tell you by how many degrees. It certainly won't be as much as using a better CPU cooler. The CPU overheats because the T4 isn't good enough for an 8 core FX CPU.

 

[pain_86]

If there is enough space, adding fans on top will help a bit, but I can't tell you by how many degrees. It certainly won't be as much as using a better CPU cooler. The CPU overheats because the T4 isn't good enough for an 8 core FX CPU.

Ok thanks, i am afraid cryorig is not available in my country , gonna search for some other more powerfull cooler than CM T4 .