AMD Opteron Dual-Core 165 1.80GHz - report your experience

dragonsprayer

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Since AMD changes sockets more then my 16 year does girls - i am stuck with some 939 mobos and no supply of fx-60's. tiger is out!

will the opteron work as a good replacement and overclock to 2.6ghz or more? any feedback from opteron users is appreciated!

since these are gaming systems anyone use this 1.8ghz chip in a gaming system.


This is the better choice:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2.0GHz / 1MB Cache / 1000MHz (2000 MT/s) FSB / Dual-Core (Manchester) / OEM / Socket 939 / Processor


fx-60 back up at tiger for $350 but no more free os now!
 

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I have a opteron 165 in my system now. I've got it over clocked to 2.8 on mid range air cooling. Idle temp is around 29-33 (room temp is 73f) and max temp I have hit was 55.
vCore is 1.392
bus speed is 312
HT link is running at 1250
 

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Since AMD changes sockets more then my 16 year does girls - i am stuck with some 939 mobos and no supply of fx-60's. tiger is out!

will the opteron work as a good replacement and overclock to 2.6ghz or more? any feedback from opteron users is appreciated!

since these are gaming systems anyone use this 1.8ghz chip in a gaming system.


This is the better choice:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2.0GHz / 1MB Cache / 1000MHz (2000 MT/s) FSB / Dual-Core (Manchester) / OEM / Socket 939 / Processor
The Optrons run at lower voltage and always tend to OC better than the same speed (in Ghz) desktops.

I don't know what the prices are today for the 165 and 3800+ so I can't say what would give the best bang-per-buck if you bought them this week.

The average OC on stock volts and cooler for an Optron 165 is 2.7Ghz and with just a -very- slight bump in volts some people have pushed the 2.8+ range (non-stock cooler).

Visit http://www.diy-street.com/forum/index.php (new URL for the DFI-Street website) for ram settings and other info for both the 3800+ and 165/170.
 

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Thank you! nice reply i really appreciate it!

the price is $185 for the 1.8ghz opteron and $100 for 2.2ghz x2 3800+
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will the opteron game like an fx-60 at a simiar speed?
 

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Thank you! nice reply i really appreciate it!

the price is $185 for the 1.8ghz opteron and $100 for 2.2ghz x2 3800+
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will the opteron game like an fx-60 at a simiar speed?
Opteron FTW!

Will game exactly like an FX-60 at similar speeds.
 

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is it basically the same chip, as the fx-60? what difference between a x2 3800+ and 1.8ghz opto

i can get the 3800+ for half the price so i am leaning that way
The only difference between the 3800 and the opty 165 is that the Optys are higher quality chips (so should overclock better) as they are designed for 24/7 server use.
 

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Well, I've been pretty pleased with mine. It will OC to 2750 with no stability issues (and that's with air cooling, a Zalman 7000). I'm sure it could go a lot higher on a different board and with a better PSU, however. But I did check my stepping beforehand. Some steppings have gone 3.2ghz +, but some are dogs.
 

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I love my new Opty! I went for the 170 because I had been reading that it has better stepping than the 165. I am fully confident that my 170 can hit 3.0JigaHurts, but at 2.8 I am at 1.35vcore.
 

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Opterons are great, often just as good OCers as FX-60 levels or even higher, just google for some reviews around. I mean; 90nm K8s are good cores until near 3.0G. I have OCed my 4200+ to 2.52GHz on 1.35V.
 

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I would say go for the opteron. You can OC it as high as a FX-60 will go (and get the same performance) for a lot less money. The x2 3800 isn't a bad chip by any measure, but it will not oc half as well as the opteron will.
 

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I got the opteron 175, unforetunately I can only get it up to 2.48 ghz stable. I'm wondering if it might be my power supply or motherboard hindering stability more then that. I'm not an extremely experienced overclocker but I honestly thought I would be able to get a bit more out of it.
 

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I had the memory divider set down to a 5:6 I believe (DDR 333) and was less then 200mhz I bumped it back up and it's running at 206mhz fine with tight timings. The HT Link is set to 4x. I think I might try lowering everything overall except the bus and see how far I can push the motherboard to see how far I can get that, unforetunately I'm not sure how I should test my power supply to see if thats a problem.
 

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I had the memory divider set down to a 5:6 I believe (DDR 333) and was less then 200mhz I bumped it back up and it's running at 206mhz fine with tight timings. The HT Link is set to 4x. I think I might try lowering everything overall except the bus and see how far I can push the motherboard to see how far I can get that, unforetunately I'm not sure how I should test my power supply to see if thats a problem.
Make sure you set the timings manually or on some mother boards they will be set too tight automatically when you raise the bus speed.

I had that problem on my old p4, when I tried to up the bus speed past 264 it would not even boot windows, but under 264 was completely stable. I finally figured out that when I put it at 265 or higher it would automatically tighten my memory timings past where they were even remotely stable, and that would stop it from booting windows.
 

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The memory SPD has the timings below spec for compatibility so I always have that on manual. however I relaxed them a bit while I overclocked so I don't really think it's memory related. I could be wrong but that doesn't seem to be the problem.
 

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Okay then it is most likely not memory, set your multi lower and see if you can get past what ever bus speed you were stuck at before.
 

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The average OC on stock volts and cooler for an Optron 165 is 2.7Ghz and with just a -very- slight bump in volts some people have pushed the 2.8+ range (non-stock cooler).
Bummed... I have tried with two Opterons overclocking, a 170 and a 175... the 175 water cooled... and would not rate the experience anywhere as fullfilling nor as durable as past Intel endeavors...
Neither would allow me past 2.7GHz stable, and I tried 3 different mobo's in total, with the Opteron 175 and A8R32-MVP finally crapping out by continually computing errors under stresstesting after one year of what I consider mildly overclocking, temps never even reaching 49C... errors continue even when stock clocked... :(

Anywhoo... All is well now, that I have an E6600 purring sweetly now!!!
Not OC'd yet, but stock alone is far faster than AMD ever propelled me...
 

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Is the performance gain going from a opteron 175 to the E6600 really worth it? New ram, new motherboard plus the processor? It's something I've been considering lately but I just don't know if I can justify the cost. I'd also have a horrible time deciding what motherboard and RAM to buy for best overclocking results.
 

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The asus is kinda eh.. its picky bout the ram and lot of people have had some hell with it. Get a DFI board if you want to get the max out the opty. Try too look for a 165 with a stepping of ccbbe those have the highest ocs of all the opty's to date. 3ghz is possible on those.
 

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