AMD Phenom II X6 1090T And 890FX Platform Review: Hello, Leo

[christop]

Great price..

 

[andy5174]

Get it trough your head, this trend will go like this from now on, stop comparing GHz and core numbers, look at videocards, nobody compares ATI vs Nvidia by core numbers or speed. The only things that matters now are Price, performance and Upgrade . And taking into consideration this 3 things i`m sorry to say but intel`s 1000$ flagship fails so hard.

Price? Same as i7-930
performance? Same or worse than i7-930 when both OCed to their Maximum frequency
upgrade? What benefit you get from upgrading to AMD 6-core if it performs the same as Intel 4-core when you own an Intel 4-core CPU?

Why do you AMD fanboys always want to compare with the immensely overpriced i7-980X when something much cheaper and performs similar as PII-X6 after OCed is there? You are the one who should get your head straight!

AMD fanboys start flame war first once again! All that they can do is insulting after failing in sensible arguments EVERY time.

 

[DjEaZy]

[citation][nom]DjEaZy[/nom]... the same architecture in 3nm and this chip is a screamer...[/citation]
... i wanted to say 32nm...

 

[englandr753]

I think this chip is a great release for AMD. How many gamers out there are still screaming that their dual core cpus are they only way to go and there are no need for quads? Much less than a year ago and declining everyday. I saw so many E8500/8600 cpus on ebay it was silly. The general consumer will see a new product with more cores, stock 3.2g and a much cheaper price tag than Intels 6 core. The thing for intel to do now is drop the price of their hexacore to 499 and they could steal 1/2 of the consumers that would buy the new X6 1090T and sell 3x more chips at the same time but hell will need to freeze over 1st. I have the newegg listing bookmarked and cant wait to see the reviews from the customers. It will be like the rest of the top end AMD cpus with 5 star ratings!

 

[JohnnyLucky]

Great article. Thanks for including the Adobe benchmarks.

Due to a recent build it will be a while before I upgrade again.

 

[pinkfloydminnesota]

NOt to mention the CPU intensive GTA IV.

 

[englandr753]

[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]Price? Same as i7-930performance? Same or worse than i7-930 when both OCed to their Maximum frequencyupgrade? What benefit you get from upgrading to AMD 6-core if it performs the same as Intel 4-core when you own an Intel 4-core CPU?Why do you AMD fanboys always want to compare with the immensely overpriced i7-980X when something much cheaper and performs similar as PII-X6 after OCed is there? You are the one who should get your head straight!AMD fanboys start flame war first once again! All that they can do is insulting after failing in sensible arguments EVERY time.[/citation]

You make yourself look like a fanboy when you don't state all the facts. It also performs better in some cases, not just the same or worse. I can agree if you already have an i7 930 it would be moot to upgrade to this chip but how many people out there already own the 930? A lot more don't than do.

I believe its a legit comparison to pit AMDs 6 core offering to Intels 6 core offering. They are the most comparable product to each other core for core.

Come on, play nice. You should be happy AMD has upped their offerings and will hopefully drive down the price of more intel products for you to buy. Its a win win situation for the consumer so AMD and Intel consumers should be excited about this release.

 

[andy5174]

You make yourself look like a fanboy when you don't state all the facts. It also performs better in some cases, not just the same or worse. I can agree if you already have an i7 930 it would be moot to upgrade to this chip but how many people out there already own the 930? A lot more don't than do.

1) I believe its a legit comparison to pit AMDs 6 core offering to Intels 6 core offering. They are the most comparable product to each other core for core.

Come on, play nice. 2)You should be happy AMD has upped their offerings and will hopefully drive down the price of more intel products for you to buy. Its a win win situation for the consumer so AMD and Intel consumers should be excited about this release.

1)
Is it reasonable to compare two CPUs with huge differences in price and performance?!!!

What does the term "cost-performance ratio" exist for then?

Isn't comparing two CPUs at same performance and similar price what we always do?

2)
You misunderstood. I never hate AMD. What I hate is AMD fanboy!

And I believe that X6 will not make the price of i7 drop because X6 costing the same and performs the same(or slightly worse after OCed as i7 OCs higher)

 

[jonpaul37]

[citation][nom]txt93[/nom]This maaayy just be my "conspiracy theory" but please also test nvidia cards with the processors. Not flacking AMD or anything but there could possibly be optimizations and "reverse optimizations" for the processors.I just cant remember tom's last review that had an nvidia card with an AMD processor.[/citation]


Wow, read much???

 

[theholylancer]

[citation][nom]deividast[/nom]Actually it's under 300$, but still really affordable to bad i'd have to change my mobo and ram for it so i'll stick to my 4 cores for the time being[/citation]


did you not read the part about Phenom II X6 1055T? where it is 199 dollars with a lower clock speed? if all you want is 6c, you can get it for under 200, and i can bet with a good TRUE with 2 fans, you can get past the 3.6 Ghz max easily lol

 

[warezme]

Not bad from AMD, good job but if only it would scale in performance with overclocks like the i7's then it would be a winner. A $265 i7 920 that oC'es to 3.8 - 4.2Ghz is still going to run circles around anything stock from either manufacture. And that is not hard to do. That is the bottom line.

 

[zoemayne]

The price will go up just like the ATI 5850. You can overclock this easy to pass/match a i7 975. So I would get on now if I could. It has to go up to $350 if people are buying the 975 for $1k the 975's price will go down significantly and the 1090T will be scarce!

 

[thearm]

Poor poor AMD After all these years....

 

[alchemy69]

It just reiterates the point that a Core i5-750 is all the processor that 99% of users need.

 

[sublifer]

I'd rather have seen the more affordable 1055T model benched.

 

[youssef 2010]

It seems AMD is having the same problem Intel had with Nvidia cards when Intel launched Core i7.But this time it's more difficult to diagnose as the X6 should beat the i7 920 & i5 750 most of the time.It also seems that the current games aren't threaded enough to utilize the 6 cores efficiently.(be it AMD or Intel)

 

[bk420]

For Sale @ Newegg.com 309.99+ free shipping! Get yours while they last!

 

[nforce4max]

Sigh diminishing returns on both chips.

Something is holding this cpu back what it is I don't know yet perhaps high latency on the cache. We know what held back the 980x, L3 latency, and low uncore clock.

Using a 8250e in one box and in another a e7200 both overclocked.

 

[megamanx00]

Just because the 870 chipset isn't suppose to divide it's lanes into an 8x/8x configuration doesn't mean ASRock won't do it anyway .

 

[doomsdaydave11]

I'm glad AMD was able to come out with a six core powerhouse before Intel did. I'm not too impressed with the performance right now... but in two years down the road, I'm sure six core will be the way to go. Now, not so much. Games barely support quads completely yet.

 

[doomsdaydave11]

**affordable six core powerhouse

 

[caamsa]

No 1055T? I would certainly like to see some OC results for that CPU.

 

[englandr753]

1)
Is it reasonable to compare two CPUs with huge differences in price and performance?!!!

What does the term "cost-performance ratio" exist for then?

Isn't comparing two CPUs at same performance and similar price what we always do?

2)
You misunderstood. I never hate AMD. What I hate is AMD fanboy!

And I believe that X6 will not make the price of i7 drop because X6 costing the same and performs the same(or slightly worse after OCed as i7 OCs higher)

1. Duals get compared to duals, quads compared to quads and hexacores should get compared to hexacores. It makes sense to compare the price performance ratio, I can agree with that but the architecture has always been compared to its competitive counterpart which in this case the 980. Intel should have done as AMD and offered a lower clock cpu. They probably didn't because they wanted to capitalize on the 1000 price point for a while. What you will likely see is a lower clocked Intel hexacore mysteriously surface to counter AMD's release.

2. It was easily misunderstood to think you were a fanboy. Your aggression seemed to be toward AMD users. I'm glad your not a fanboy, it shows you are more mature than I took you for from your first post.

You are probably right about it not dropping the Intel price point. It will take a few more direct releases from AMD before that happens.

 

[cangelini]

[citation][nom]caamsa[/nom]No 1055T? I would certainly like to see some OC results for that CPU.[/citation]

AMD didn't send out 1055Ts. Any 1055T results are simulated.

 

[megamanx00]

Interesting results. Seems it acts a little screwy with some applications. I need to see more results from other sites before deciding how useful I see the 6-core Phenom II. Still, this confirms that it's not worth ditching my Phenom II 955 for. This is especially true since Bulldozer will be out next year, on 28nm no less.