AMD Phenom II X6 1090T And 890FX Platform Review: Hello, Leo

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[citation][nom]buzznut[/nom]I don't see why you do an article citing overclocking with the Intel chips but not the hexacore. AMD is selling the black edition on newegg today!I consider this review incomplete without overclocking being addressed. This sucks.[/citation]

As mentioned in the story, I was running 3.7 GHz with Turbo CORE enabled.
Thanks,
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i7 all the way, why couldn't amd focus on ramping up their quad's instead of adding more cores, and its not like they can even compete with the i7's even with the added cores. Personally the extra 2 cores just has the name to back it up and not the performance..ohhh i have "6-cores"......what a joke. IMO
 
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This is great news :)

Intel has been sitting back doing, well, very little the last little while because they didn't HAVE to do anything.

The 32 nm, 12 meg of Cache, AES encryption chips that SHOULD be selling by now as a replacement to the i7 9xx series are all sitting in server land as 56xx series Xeons.

Looking at the benchmarks the 6 core AMD part looks like it runs +/- the equal of the (also +/- $300) i7 930... just as it should be :)

I hope this part either forces the i7s down in price, or forces Intel to start releasing 32 nano quads into the consumer space.

I like Intel, they make awesome CPUs, but any monopoly will exploit the situation, and the X6 moves the area of competition up to the $300 mark, which is great news for all of us.

Thanks AMD.. great job!
 
After checking out overclockers club review, it seems as if the 1090T is helped alot in productivity benches and such with a stable 4.1Ghz overclock, but for now, that seems to be the limit, as it gets dangerously close to 62C on air. Essentially, it looked like it kept up with their i7-980x and i7-965 in most tests. I'm thinking with a bit of H20 cooling, the 1090T is an excellent buy for $285 (or less depending on rebates).
 

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If the 1055T were $150 before rebate I'd consider it a reasonable deal until then though I'd say it's overpriced for what your getting in the end considering it can't compete well clock for clock in non threaded applications and is more power hungry as well. Not much has changed with this launch Intel still dominates CPU's.
 

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Wait. I have XViD and I was able to enable additional threads. At 2 threads, the efficiency was a little more than at one core (about 56% per core), but since I have a 3-core CPU, I get a gain.
 

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These are great chips based on price.

What we all should be hoping for is intel dropping prices, forcing a price war.

The problem is, intel has so much cash it doesn't have to do that. This is why monopolies are BAD for us.

If you are buying/upgrading your pc soon then you owe it to yourself to go AMD this time - even if it's your first time. AMD is utterly compelling on every delta right now, the only thing holding you back from buying AMD is fear of the unknown, and it's a baseless fear trust me. :)
 
[citation][nom]cangelini[/nom]As mentioned in the story, I was running 3.7 GHz with Turbo CORE enabled.Thanks,Chris[/citation]

Yes, but the i7 930 doesn't hit 4.0 Ghz with turbo. You kept saying how much better the i7's were because they can hit 4.0 Ghz. You didn't even TRY to overclock the AMD part, and then compared it to an i7 that is overclocked to 4.0 Ghz.

Turbo is not overclocking. There are plenty of other sites that have done overclocking tests like Anandtech, Tom's is just not one of them.
 

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My question is, will six cores add to the threading abilities of a game such as GTA IV? We all know it loves sucking up resources from an i7-920 with four cores and performs admirably with an HD4890 card. I should know, that's the setup I've got in my wife's computer. But as I look to the future and want to build my own desktop so I can stop bugging her to let me play my game, I'm left wondering...

Is there any point to getting a six-core CPU when the i7-920/930 owns, across the board, the game I play the most?

With the 1090T price point equal to the i7-930, maybe the 1055T, overclocked to 3.5 or so, would be the way to go, and $100 cheaper? I'd love to see a mid-range gamer test in GTA IV. Processors from all ranges. i3-540 vs the new X4 640, i5-650 vs say a Phenom II X4 945, i5-750 vs the new 1055T, i7-930 vs the 1090T. Maybe throw in an E7500 vs the new Athlon X2 260 and an E8500 vs the new X3 445. Mix it all up and really show the price points and how an extra $30 or $40 affects a GTA IV player.
 

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[citation][nom]bk420[/nom]For Sale @ Newegg.com 309.99+ free shipping! Get yours while they last![/citation]

Yeah, I want to spend more for an AMD processor than I spent for an Intel a year ago that runs circles around this chip?

I think the AMD/ATI fans are familiar with this from all their posts in the Fermi threads: "Too little, too late" and "fail".. I'm not good at the fanboi stuff, so do we move on to "this will put amd out of business"?
 

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[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]1)Is it reasonable to compare two CPUs with huge differences in price and performance?!!!What does the term "cost-performance ratio" exist for then?Isn't comparing two CPUs at same performance and similar price what we always do?2)You misunderstood. I never hate AMD. What I hate is AMD fanboy!And I believe that X6 will not make the price of i7 drop because X6 costing the same and performs the same(or slightly worse after OCed as i7 OCs higher)[/citation]

Someone get this guy a bottle.
 

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Still looks like I made a worthwhile investment in my i7 920 overclocked to 4ghz on water. I guess I can rest easy for a while still as the 1000 dollar chips of intel are only giving a few frames better in games. Threaded apps don't really apply to me, gaming is where I see my numbers.

Thanks for the great article. Maybe this will quiet down some of the AMD fanboys saying how AMD is now crushing Intel in the market. Overclockablility is very important if you know what you are doing, and you can end up saving yourself a lot of money in the process.
 
For the flameboys....What s775 upgrade do you have (Intel)?? If you were lucky to buy a AM2+ mobo and want to upgrade your CPU, just plop down $200/$300 and your done!! If your building from scratch than the decision is a bit more involved. Intel has their options and AMD does too, so depending on your needs/wants Intel or AMD will do just fine.
 

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X6 do not need water to reach 4.2Ghz. Just air.

If you say overclocking is important, both cheap overclocks to the same levels, what's your point?
 

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[citation][nom]cangelini[/nom]Well, I had it in there for the GTX 480 review. It's a very GPU-bound game at the settings I'd *personally* want to play at, so I don't think it adds much to a processor story. But, for gaming, certainly a valid suggestion! If only I could phase out Crysis without getting called-out[/citation]

Hey just wait for Crysis 2! then you can phase out crysis :)
 
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what a joke. cannot even beat a stock 920. An we all know 920 can easily go to 4GHZ and whop AMD to the next decade.
 
Thanks Chris!
I realize it's harder to test, but we need to have some serious strategy game in the suite. Even a very large Civ IV map can bring a processor pain (won't run in Win7 :p ). Then there are the newer Total War titles.... save a game with two full-sized armies and two full-sized re-enforcement armies on the field, all moving, and you have a serious CPU workout.
 

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[citation][nom]Nintendork[/nom]980x vs 1090T in BC2:http://www.guru3d.com/article/phen [...] -review/18Same performance.[/citation]man if you bought the intel for a grand you have to be kicking yourself..i mean be honest...future games will use the other cores and you wasted 800 bucks for the same results. I be you all feel like bum bum bum bums.
 
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