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We have had several requests for a sticky on AMD's yet to be released Piledriver architecture ... so here it is.

I want to make a few things clear though.

Post a question relevant to the topic, or information about the topic, or it will be deleted.

Post any negative personal comments about another user ... and they will be deleted.

Post flame baiting comments about the blue, red and green team and they will be deleted.

Enjoy ...
 
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Wish I had my certs. I just have a degree in Information Systems Administration. Sad thing is that even before I got it I knew more than those with it or with certs. Kids these days don't seem to have the same desire to know the stuff. I know people with great paying jobs who know nothing.

My wifes work is one example. The PC guy there built her a new PC, finally, with a 6 core Xeon, 12GB of RAM, and a SSD. But did not add a data HDD and she moves a lot of data at work. I am pretty sure that SSD will die very fast with what she has to do.
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It makes you want to shoot your self in the face, Gets me so sad that kids/Teens don't want to work in the IT field when to be honest its the best thing to go for now a days. I notice being in class that a lot of students have know respect for the teacher who actually worked in the IT world for over 20 years! I wish i was older then 19 so i can already have hands on experience. All i can do is projects in school and home and learn the big words!! LOL
 
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It's pretty sad, I know a kid who has a 4 year degree in Information Systems and he had to call one of my buddies who has no degree or certs for answers. I just go for my certs because it'll bring more credibility to me in the company's eyes. And yes, these days you need to specialize in a certain field to make any decent amount of money. I'm thinking of moving to database and away from networking.
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First i'm sorry reynod for posting so much and about non piledriver info. Please don't ban me!

I agree except on the moving away from networking and going to database??????????like mysql look at my quote please.

As for Certs meaning more then degree's before anyone disagrees this is 100% true. I've talk to many people in the IT world including a employer at GM who wanted me to work for him to be a network admin(A place i used to go to gave them my info) and he told me on the Phone that he would rather have people with certs then people with just degrees because they have to know the material to get the cert were Kids in college just have to set their and pass some can pass with even D's in their class.

All i did at baker college so far that was hands-on is Use VMware. which i always used this type of stuff i have windows 95-xp all on a virtual machine just learning how to do stuff at home! One area where i would like to stay out of is programming i would like to stay far away from it.
 
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As for Certs meaning more then degree's before anyone disagrees this is 100% true. I've talk to many people in the IT world including a employer at GM who wanted me to work for him to be a network admin(A place i used to go to gave them my info) and he told me on the Phone that he would rather have people with certs then people with just degrees because they have to know the material to get the cert were Kids in college just have to set their and pass some can pass with even D's in their class.
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As a comp-sci, I laugh at this statement. Software development is where there real money is, and I've found through experiance that IT personel typically should be kept as far away from the coding process as humanly possible.
 
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As for Certs meaning more then degree's before anyone disagrees this is 100% true. I've talk to many people in the IT world including a employer at GM who wanted me to work for him to be a network admin(A place i used to go to gave them my info) and he told me on the Phone that he would rather have people with certs then people with just degrees because they have to know the material to get the cert were Kids in college just have to set their and pass some can pass with even D's in their class.
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As a comp-sci, I laugh at this statement. Software development is where there real money is, and I've found through experiance that IT personel typically should be kept as far away from the coding process as humanly possible.
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I find joy reading this i hate programming with a passion. I'm more of a network/hardware guy. Some of my friends think i should become a programmer, not going to happen.
 
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N00b I think the guys were on a lunch break?

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This devil made us do it 😀

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No more info on PD yet eh? Not suprised. I bet we will know more about Haswell on PDs release date than we will about PD.

On a side note, I have built a few AMD systems with BD in them. One FX 4100 and a few FX 6100s. An interesting bit though is the QA for AMDs CPU packaging and CPUs as of late. A while ago on THG I responded to a thread where a guy got a Phenom II CPU with discolored markings on it like this:

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I thought it to be a tampered with CPU. But at work I have been running across them more frequently on Athlon IIs and Phenom IIs. You can't clean it, even with 99.9% alcohol. Just found it strange as I have never seen that before with any AMD or Intel CPUs.

Another issue I have run into is with the BD CPUs. They tend to come with a silica package in them and it must be old as some of them are broken with the silica balls just rolling around int it. Another one as well with BD CPUs is the plastic that sits over the HSF to protect the stock TIM looks old, a bit yellowish and is broken. Or both.

Makes me wonder if the good ol GF is cutting corners somewhere as thats what it looks like.

Poor AMD. Hopefully they pursue betetr QA out of GF. I wouldn't want a CPU with weird markings or damaged internal stuff.
 
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Over the years I have had a few CPU's DoA (dead on arrival) Jimmy and they include:

Cyrix 686 (marked IBM);
Pentium Pro;
AMD5x86133;
Core2Duo E5300.

Intel and AMD were no quibble replacements.

The Cyrix backyard dealer magically dissapeared ... probably on a horse towing a caravan with bright colours and a forune telling ad on the side of it?

No PII / PIII Slot jobbies or AMD 4, 5, or 6's.

I have built quite a lot of systems.

Mostly the dead one's I have resurrected or buried have been due to mobo's and PSU's.

I don't count the CPU's I tortured to death overclocking though.

Most of them have been Penryn ... not Conro'es.

My own fault of course ... or water leaks causing massive thermal ramping.

:)
 
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Yeah well the new SBE chips are defective ... cores and a heap of cache based on the Xeons ... lol.

Seriously I think yeild problems are never the issue and many good cores just end up getting cores and cache fused off to meet a price point.

Thermal characteristis for LV and ULV chips ... now that area is one where sampling is more likely to reflect the final silicon rather than a price point.
 
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A chip with a very large die space and lots of cache having yield issues? NEVER!
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LOL. True, but generally speaking you won't ship with staining on the heat spreader as-- even if it's harmless operationally-- the customers don't know what it is or if it will impact attachment of an HSF and you can expect returns.
 
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Yeah well the new SBE chips are defective ... cores and a heap of cache based on the Xeons ... lol.

Seriously I think yeild problems are never the issue and many good cores just end up getting cores and cache fused off to meet a price point.
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I wouldn't say "never" an issue... the whole reason for silicon fusedown in the first place was die reclaim for yields. Still the case for those Llano-based Athlon 2s with no graphics, for instance. But bin split does not necessarily intercept the demand curve, and it costs too much in yield to retarget the fab process every time your demand has a fluctuation... So if the customer wants to pay $100 each for 300 1.8GHz parts and nobody's buying those 2GHz parts you've got on sale for $120, any manufacturer will cheerfully fuse the nominally 2-G parts and sell them for what the market is willing to bear.
 
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